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by samblesj | March 11, 2008 at 03:24 am
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British children are to be asked to swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen in new classroom ceremonies.
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at 03:35 on March 11th, 2008
samblesj, I like this story. This is big here in the UK this morning.
at 06:19 on March 11th, 2008
We too here in Canada up till the mid 1970s when Conservative Canada used to have a photo of the Queen and students swore alliegance to the Queen in school every morning along with the Lords Prayer, that is until our spineless tofu lefty liberal enema bag politicians afraid to offend potential voters went all Multicultural Diversity in what has become a generation of "Everyone wins a Trophy Day, just for showing up" as Lefty Liberal Politicians gladly lay on their exposed flaccid pale white bellies in favour of votes, any persons vote thereby setting the stage for what we currently are experiencing in this country as a rudderless Confederation in that "No one is expected to pledge their loyalty" even to "Canada" if one doesn't wish to swear alliegance, especially when joining the military or government institutions, even the boy scouts. Canada is pretty much an individual state of mind in each persons individuality, no direction, just a "what's in it for me attitude" as far as I am concerned.
at 05:15 on March 11th, 2008
Sambles, it would be nice if there were a little more information in the story. Are students expected to swear allegiance now? What happpens if they don't? What will change if this goes through? Why is it a big deal in the UK?
at 06:20 on March 11th, 2008
samblesj, oh yeah, Good stuff
at 09:02 on March 11th, 2008
Wow, that was quite the diatribe.
All I can say from my experience in growing up in the states and moving from a liberal state (California) to a conservative state (Virginia) and then up here to Vancouver is that I grew up never having to say the pledge of a allegiance, and the fact that I had to in Virginia especially because the country was going through it's ultra patriotic phase right after 9-11, pissed me off greatly. One of the biggest points for me about it other than just pledging myself to a govt. that I felt had stolen power unconstitutionally, it was the fact that I as an agnostic, felt it was particularly stupid to have to pledge myself to 'God'.
While I know that the problem or controversy is different in the UK, I just thought I'd add a little perspective from someone that's had to deal with similar.
at 09:16 on March 11th, 2008
In both elementary school and girl guides, I was expected to pledge allegiance to 'God, the Queen, and My Country'. To this day, whenever I see that scene in A Few Good Men where the marine's code is revealed as 'Unit-Core-God-Country' I think of my little blue girl guide uniform and wonder what it is about those pledges that makes everyone feel better... a little '1984' to help you sleep at night? Anyone?
at 14:26 on March 11th, 2008
Good for you Nicole, though some agnostics may disagree, I still feel allegiance to your country is important, religion well that is a personal matter. As we say in the Military if you are not behind us, you are most certainly welcome to stand in front of us. Something to think about to those whose little world revolves around their own universe. I put it this way love it or leave it, and take a one way ticket to Iran or whereabouts they would gut you in a hollywood minute. As for Hollywood, with the Paris's and Britneys , well that certainly speaks for itself now doesn't it ?
Dash , I too have lived in Virginia, Quantico in fact as part of my Military training, and California as well, South of San Diego in Imperial Beach as a teen for a time when my parents were posted there. I surmise we are of the same age, and loyalty and god were predominate in both coasts, perhaps your upbringing was enhanced by all natural elements inhaled by your parents and teachers.
As for Dash, one can be certain, you grew up in a culture of "Everyone Gets a Trophy Day" and "Hugs Not Drugs", and " Dialogue instead of Punishment for Criminals" which has been a liberal mainstay for the last 3 decades in North America and look at the state of both our country's today. I am sure you are certainly Proud of it all!