INC shouts: Where is Sir Erano Manalo?
Has anyone of you noticed how rampant the wanton postings of comments and blogs of the INC members of Iglesia Ni Cristo under Executive Minister, Eraño "Ka Erdy" de Guzman Manalo, plague the cyberspace?
Are they the ones doing the job of defending their faith against Brother Eliseo Fernando Soriano of the Members Church of God Internationl (popularly known as Ang Dating Daan, a radio and tv program), now?
Were they fed up and dismayed with the style of their INC Ministers who are putting them all in shame - the more they talk, the more they show their stupidy and rudeness? Were they allowed by Eraño "Ka Erdie" Manalo to display such bigotry, even the INC Ministers at the CHRISTIAN ERA BROADCASTING SERVICE INC.; TV STATION NET 25, RADIO STATION DWIZ, RADIO STATION DZEC, RADIO STATION DZEM; and the INTERNET? http://youtube.com/watch?v=UTzgYC6vj7w,
These are some of the visible reactions of INC members who has no leader to depend on. They are also tired of waiting. So they silently shout in the cyberspace.
One of these INCs is Rizalino L. Arrabis which posted his comments at http://janeabao.newsvine.com/_news/2007/11/04/1073474-church-group-gangs-up-on-supreme-court-justice-contender.
Rizalino "Ka Dodong" Arrabis claimed that he is an INC (a member of Iglesia Ni Cristo) and also unsolicitedly said that he held office in finance in Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ) before. Arrabis said,
"My idea here is to defend the Iglesia Ni Cristo,demolish, and neutralize the detractors for all these comes up as the battle for the hearts and minds. I know pretty well that I have done a good job worthy of a Christian soldier."
Does he belong to the INC Scans (Scan Society of Communicators; Association of Christians in IT) that defend name of Iglesia Ni Cristo at any cost? Brother Abner mentioned of this Scans at http://youtube.com/watch?v=mKkIOgoA_go. Brother Abner Martizano Sr. is a former INC minister for 23 years of his life. Martizano said that he is an extremist member of the Iglesia ni Cristo of Manalo for over 33 years.
Knowing this, Arrabis is capable to malign the people who will boldly disprove INC's teachings. If he can do such fanatics acts, what more can we expect the Ministers of INC? They use the name-calling technique in a spiritual fight!
The name-calling technique, per propagandacritic.com,
"links a person or idea, to a negative symbol. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject the person or the idea on the basis of the negative symbol, instead of looking at the available evidence."
The late Félix Ysagun Manalo, the ex-Presiding Minister and found of Iglesia Ni Kristo was not baptized in INC http://youtube.com/watch?v=bZiDyEHqafs.
This information about the old Manalo results to indirectly excluding him from the salvation the INC preaches. This totally make the forefathers of Felix Manalo an outcast and a candidate to hell, sentence to fire of hell. This is according to their INC doctrines as it teaches that 1913 was the start of baptism. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xi9sKFm-sE.
Félix Y. Manalo calls "of the devil" those priests and bishops from other religious sects who ordained him. From Felix, to Erano, to Eduardo, they profess everyone outside their Church (INC) is a candidate to fire.
Does INC doctrine of salvation excludes the Muslim community?
The late Brother Romy Espanol, an ex-INC Minister, even understood the errors in the INC doctrine and knows how INC Ministers thinks because he thinks like them one time in his life http://youtube.com/watch?v=MM9buEDinr0.
The Muslims that was seen in youtube are very much mad to Bro Eli because of the mangled tapes INC made. Their angered was focused to Bro Eli but not to the ones who mangled the tape. Are not they aware of how the INC Ministers plays not only with videos to make Bro Eli look bad. INC also wants Muslim Brothers and the Ang Dating Daan to fight, so that INC can get away with their lies!
Look how INC Ministers Leopoldo "Paul" Gueverra and Michael Sandoval anchored Ang Tamang Daan and shown a tape their own editors mangled to discredit Bro Eli Soriano. But as what is expected, they really took their viewers incapable of intelligence. Why, who will mangle a tape and use it as evidence when in fact, those who they wanted to malign and those viewers that they wanted to show the tape might have a copy of the original tape! See how they did: it:http://youtube.com/watch?v=BAoOQnELWmE
The Muslims brothers for one should watch this broadcast of the program Ang Tamang Daan where these two INC Ministers, Michael Sandoval and Ramil Parba also unsolicitedly gave the brother Muslims tips on how to get or corner Bro Eli when he visits in several places including his visits in Mindanao.
An INC Minister Ramil Parba said,
"If I am a Muslim, I will not allow just that..., If I were an Abu Sayaff..., or MILF..., or if I am a suicide bomber member for example, surely I will not allow that...". "I will attack Apalit", immediately added by Michael Sandoval while giggling.
These two Ministers giggle and laugh while insinuating that their thoughts can persuade the Filipino Muslims and other groups to be offended on the mangled tape they made against Bro Eli. These INC Ministers know how to evoke anger from the viewer Muslims, and the terrorists through subliminal insinuations and transfer that anger towards Bro Eli! These Ministers', Parba and Sandoval, true intention is really to induce Muslims to follow INCs' evil-scheme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdnkoY7eHPQ.
Though some Muslim denies that they can be influenced by the INC, no one can deny the fact how Satan can influence people. Surely, Satan is pleased how the INC Ministers does his plan of harming the Ang Dating Daan followers.
After seeing the evidence of how INC can edit a video tape just to malign Bro Eli Soriano? This is one of the evidence that Bro Eli Soriano's attack to the Muslims and Prophet Mohammed is the manipulation and invention of the INCs. To what extent can these INCs will go to destroy Bro Eli's reputation as a person primarily? To what extent will the INCs involve other religious denominations and certain groups to persuade them to hurt their Filipino brothers? These two INC Ministers even appealed to the suicide bombers!!! Why have not the MTRCB banned this two from media? Why does the government never shown their ill-favor on any type or kind of terroristic insinuations or acts such as Michael Sandoval and Ramil Parba's appeal for the suicide bombers to attack Apalit? This is the reason too why Ramil Parba's debate with a Catholic is considered a mock or scripted debate.
Obviously, Ramil, Leopoldo, and Michael, together with their other co anchor INC Ministers's tongue can be considered as deadly weapons!
But a reminder from the scripture was written for the Church of God:
John 16: 1"All this I have told you so that you will not go astray.
2They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.
3They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me.
4I have told you this, so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you. I did not tell you this at first because I was with you.
Who among the Filipino people lost their sense of judgement to discern a preacher whose real intention is to help a person to become merciful and fair and become a good citizen? Brother Eliseo Soriano fights for the salvation of everyone who has not learned of the real Jesus Christ and the Living God. He does not judge anyone who he has no knowledge of. And he does this things biblical, based on the scriptures. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_0pqIBv_Hwo.
Rizalino Arrabis as an INC, is obviously a blind follower, one of the seeds of the teachings of the late Felix Manalo.
Their faith in the God of Israel makes the ADD members an undisputed rival of the INC Administration. Even if ADD members have tasted of what Arrabis and the INC can and will do, they continue to do their best to proclaim the name of the Living God by consistently attending to the spiritual needs of not only the Filipino people but also the people abroad.
Though ADD members are being given a glimpse of what INC’s propaganda will lead them to, they will not stoop down to the INCs' level but rather will strive more to propagate and take into heart the faith of Jesus Christ.
To the Members Church of God International, do not let the faultfinders, the scoffers, the boastful, etc., stop you from doing what is good and righteous in the sight of the Living God, according to the Book of Jude 1:17-23.
To Bro Eli Soriano and his brethren I say, "We have the faith of Jesus Christ!" And, "Let us fight the good fight of faith by announcing to the world that our God cannot lie through His Gospel!" The worst is yet to come but God knows best for all of us!
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December 30, 2007 at 02:48 am by worm wood, 4209 views, 37 comments




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at 15:03 on January 6th, 2008
Thank you and tell me more.
at 10:32 on July 26th, 2008
rizalino l arrabis, why are you saying these things below?
rizalino l arrabis, I will place videos after or between your sentences and let us see how you lied big time:
rizalino l arrabis, you find it hard to believe that you will commit mistake on disowning both your own "stand" and contradicting your "angel-office" own words, don't you? You keep on denying what you said even if I have copy pasted the link and your own words verbatim. Even worm wood placed video links on article, but you are really covering it all up for Felix and Erano Manalo's sake.
rizalino l arrabis, aren't you tired on fighting physically, beginning from your youth up to joining the army? It is very tiresome and cannot even be compared to CAT-1! But now, I want to fight for the faith that I learned to carry in my heart, to serve God and my countrymen. I learned to hope not only for myself, but for my family and friends. I also learned to hope for my enemies that someday, they will learn the word of God. It is hard, but when love abideth, Jesus Christ will be your helper to carry the burden for you if you just have the right faith, hope, and love. Even if it is difficult to teach those who can kill the body, my hope still lies in the hands of my Maker, He owns my spirit.
To the gays out there, learn what you really need to do in God's presence, even you rizalino l arrabis. Then you'll be able to live out your days free to pursue what God wants instead of being tyrannized by what you want.
INC Administration wants to stop the ADD members to proclaim the true message, the gospel that God himself gave. There are several plans made by this INC Administration, but it is only God who can tell what is enough, and what we deserve in this lifetime, what our body will face.
The INC Administration set traps, http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dp1h1NsLq3c, http://youtube.com/watch?v=FXAfdfHs1U4&feature=related, but it is INC who got caught, though they can do away with it, come judgement day, they will surely get what they deserve and can never escape that. INC Administration planted traps, they tried to send INC spies in the ADD Convention Center, and these INC spies went back to where they belong to host some of the Ang Tamang Daan segments enumerate on the following video clips of your INC ex and current brethren: http://youtube.com/watch?v=spScHHCNwzM
INC Administration filed several suits against Bro Eli Soriano and you will read sooner or later as you go along as rizalino l arrabis writes here what he got from the diary of Erano Manalo and INC Administration. Actually, some of the INC spies are in ADD Convention Center, eating the food that Bro Eli Soriano prepared, for the physical and spiritual needs of our poor brethren.
Next, INC lawyer ran amok in the Add Convention Center again together with NBI agents (who called themeselves as such) having high caliber weapons. Then, INC Ministers called from Ang Tamang Daan (ATD) in TV broadcast the suicide bombers and terrorists to go to the ADD Convention Center in Apalit, Pampanga. And now, rizalino l arrabis spreads rumor that together with a local goverment official in Apalit Pampanga went to ADD Convention Center to close it! INC Administration tried so hard, and up to now, everything to stop spreading the Word of God! They are trying to police, abuse, and terrorize us even in cyberspace! These actuations of video tape and voice tape mangling of the INC Administration are the standards of INC, even from whom rizalino l arrabis got his idea of news article mangling and his idea:
rizalino l arrabis, if you think you were forced by Erano Manalo to say your piece, it's up to you to decide, whether to follow him or to follow yourself, or to follow God.
When you follow God, you'll be able to live out your days free to pursue what God wants instead of being tyrannized by what you want.
But INC Administration used different people, their brothers, the excommunicated ADD members, even people they hire to file suits agains Bro Eliseo Soriano. The MTRCB even favored them and suspended the program several times including bro Eli Soriano from speaking live on National Television.
rizalino l arrabis, watch this clip yourself on how you and your INC Ministers pride on your conviction and stand, to even negate the words in the Holy Bible itself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6kHVLe0lOg And the INC call for the debate was even a pre-recorded one, not even a live broadcast! INC editors really can't edit, and their INC Advisers can't advise, can they? Even mangling tapes, they leave traces of their devilish act. INC Minister Joe Ventilacion never replied afer watching himself and the answer of Bro Eli Soriano!
Now, even if Bro Eli Soriano can surely suffer these things from the INCs, http://youtube.com/watch?v=yLmwZ0SRt9I, http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dp1h1NsLq3c, http://youtube.com/watch?v=FXAfdfHs1U4&feature=related, http://youtube.com/watch?v=_GQVPHhUtbo, when the debate is done in a PLAZA, he will surely face any MANALO who will represent INC ni Felix Manalo conviction and doctrines in a spiritual debate! http://youtube.com/watch?v=VlMEdyCAGz0
Answer this rizalino l arrabis, Is Erano Manalo an INC Minister or not? Is Erano Manalo a sent mesenger in these last days or not? Can Erano Manalo debate or not? Can Erano Manalo come out now to face Bro Eli Soriano in the much awaited debate of this Era? http://youtube.com/watch?v=VlMEdyCAGz0
at 08:56 on January 11th, 2008
Bro Eli Soriano on "Holy Kiss"
http://www.nowpublic.com/people/first-bible-exposition-2008-opened-holy-kiss
at 22:17 on January 11th, 2008
cynthia
yoo, on what basis are you judging this piece of writing? News story?
Editorial?
It appears that your attention is focused on structure.
What
about the message?
Being the first one to comment outside of the
writer, you appear to want to deflect the attention away from the
message.
Why is this so?
at 09:16 on January 13th, 2008
kotawinters, thank you for reading my article.
I have almost completely edited my article after cynthia wrote her suggestions. Thus, her suggestions above does not necessarily points to the edited one. Her suggestion might changed after she reads again the above article.
Thank you for understanding.
at 05:15 on January 14th, 2008
Worm wood, it's very informative.
I've learned a lot from what you wrote.
But it intrigues me no end that you are like cats and dogs - with some other group.
I am learning much about your The Old Path though.
I enjoy reading your exchanges.
at 12:28 on January 13th, 2008
The answer to your question? Why, we can have some calculations. If they see him, then he wouldn't be an angel to them anymore. The artefacts that come must be that matching to their glorious chapels, and their history of being the only ones to be saved. And because he is an angel, naturally you don't see him. So why do you look for him?
at 13:43 on January 13th, 2008
Kotawinters is right. Cynthiawoo, I believe we are writing here for the substantial message we wanted to convey and inform the public. We are not here to point out tecnicalities of the structure. Be more sensible please. Wormwood this is a very moving piece, and even supported with evidences, the public really need this information.
at 13:45 on January 13th, 2008
worm wood, I like this story. It's a sensible stuff.
at 20:08 on January 13th, 2008
Rizalino Arrabis, you said? He was much rabid before - in projecting
himself as defender of his beliefs. I think I miss his fire and fury as
he argues with the members of The Old Path. Now he has lost
steam, I guess - after gifting Erano Manalo with his kind of tongue. I
kind of get entertained with the way he argues.
at 10:44 on January 16th, 2008
Hi to all.
1. FYI. Cynthia's comment above was based on my previous article. I followed her suggestion to break down my article into shorter posts with more background information of the people, issues and news events as I introduce them to the readers. So, there it goes.
2. Kotawinters, it is not really hard to answer when the Truth is on our side. Fighting evil, is tantamount to exposing evil too. Please be reminded that evil does not rests. So, let us be aware and be prepared for their next evil tactic. If Jesus Christ is with us, whom shall we fear?
3. johnjosephvillareal, correct, the standards of God first before the standards of men.
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ryanat 19:44 on January 14th, 2008
Because of the updates to the story, I have removed the flag.
Thank you for the contribution.
at 22:57 on January 14th, 2008
I am intrigued how you do it here.
There are then two concerns - the editor's side and the issues put forth by the writer.
Perhaps the first one has to be satisfied first.
Then and only then will the second one follow.
Smart move - but at the sacrifice of issues being news.
I see a presumption that postings here are raw and without the disciplined writing of a trained journalist.
at 09:36 on January 16th, 2008
worm wood, I like this story. It's very informative.
at 16:45 on January 19th, 2008
After updating and saving the article above, it can't be viewed anymore. I'll try to check later. For the meantime you can see the full article together with playable clips at
http://angdatingdaantheoldpath.blogspot.com/
at 09:44 on January 20th, 2008
It can't be viewed anymore?
They do things here differently, that's what I can see.
It's like it's more of preparing things for publication and that is why editors come in.
Postings here do not seem like they are for public interactions.
at 10:50 on January 20th, 2008
But then again, where is his Sirs, now? Where is Sir Eraño Manalo, as they call him, now? INCs too might be wondering what their Executive Minister is doing, or even their Deputy Minister Sir Eduardo Villanueva Manalo. Is the INC Administration playing hide and seek in an inverse fashion: in such a way that while Erano Manalo hides, even his son Eduardo "Ka Eddie Boy" V Manalo, INC Ministers come out in the open, or even the INC Members to that effect?
It is blatant that the INC Ministers does not hide their eagerness and earnestness to malign the person of Brother Eliseo "Ingkong" Soriano, inspite of the fact that the doctrine should have been their main focus of discussions. Even on TV and Radio, INC Ministers and INCs continue to do what they do best, defamation and trial by publicity.
One of this is the pornographic comics that INC Minister Michael Sandoval , at Ang Tamang Daan, endorsed to be read which they themselves published. http://youtube.com/watch?v=owJFa7vmBVs and http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8rKmjL84kI.
Is Erano G. Manalo the brains behind the propaganda or strategies of the INC Ministers against Bro Eli? Is Erano Manalo incapacitated now to do the job against Bro Eli? How about Erano's son, INC's Deputy Executive Minister Eduardo "Ka Eddie", the grandson of Felix Y. Manalo? Did he leave his last will and testament to continue what he has started against Bro Eli? If not, then who finances the INC Ministers? Is it the next Manalo-in-charge? Did Ka Erdy finally left the administration to the INC Ministers because he can no longer control them? http://youtube.com/watch?v=VpTBfdw7Tsk.
Or is it Erano Manalo himself, remain to be the one manipulating the INC, even up to now? These are just some of the questions that arise from those who have not seen how Erano Manalo defend his faith, nor has seen him personally - for he is no where to be found! Those who has not followed the issue of debate between Members, Church of God, International (MCGI) and Iglesia Ni Cristo - Manalo (INC) came about may watch this clip http://youtube.com/watch?v=5Sa_lyrdqHw.
Here is how the INC Ministers anchor their Ang Tamang Daan program and display their libelous technique: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2VD13oRR-VA.
Of course this is how INC Ministers and worker are personally known by and as reported by Erano Manalo HIMSELF: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VpTBfdw7Tsk.
Brother Eliseo Fernando Soriano is the Presiding Minister of Members, Church of God International, a religious sect that imitated the Church of God, as preached by St. Paul, written in the Holy Bible. His group is also known as Ang Dating Daan (ADD), their TV and radio program. Bro Eli has a program, Itanong mo kay Soriano, Biblia ang Sasagot (Ask Brother Eli, the Bible shall answer) where the telephone line is open for everyone who wants to ask for the Truth up to the last minute of the program.
Even Michael Sandoval announced his intention to call in the program of Bro Eli. The Ang Dating Daan, and the Ang Tamang Daan, and the viewers waited for Sandoval's call, but he never did, a no show, a feebleminded person, a man without word of honor. Watch how Sandoval changed his mind and guiltlessly edited his script despite that fact that everyone can have a copy of their broadcasts: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5eO-kCXrvVI.
The Ministers of INC at their program, Ang Tamang Daan, even boastfully insinuated that Bro Eli has now found a religious denomination which he cannot pull down, them, the INCs. They announced that Bro Eli Soriano has not even shown a proof that he debated with an INC Minister, the reason why he has no credibility for debating. Here is a copy of their statement: http://youtube.com/watch?v=naZmxNLTMBc.
But how can we know or find out if the INC Ministers are telling the truth when in fact the INC Executives, including Deputy Executive Minister Eduardo and his father INC Executive Minister Erano Manalo have not yet said "AYE!" or even announced, "YES!, let us debate NOW!" in response to Bro Eliseo's dare! What has made these INC Administration fear Bro Eli in a peaceful debate? Are they scared to come out into the open upon watching example videos of Bro Eli's debate with other religious denominations? See all compilations here: http://www.theoldpath.tv/videos.aspx#top.
Also a sample clip of a debate over the television, UNTV37, with by the use of the internet between Bro Eli Soriano and Mitch Vickers, a Head Elder of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, on the topic "Is it necessary to obey the Ten Commandments in the Christian Era based on the Bible?", http://youtube.com/watch?v=e91VDuJ0cP0.
These Ministers of INC, Michael Sandoval and Maximo "Ka" Bularan even insinuated that Bro Eli will not really debate with their INC executives. Why? They said it due to Bro. Eli's suggestion that a debate between him and INC leaders should be done from two studios to be broadcasted live in national television. Are these two INC Ministers concluding rationaly? Here is a copy of their statement: http://youtube.com/watch?v=naZmxNLTMBc.
In fact, Bro Eli's suggestion for a debate between two studios is feasible (doable) which aims to avoid violence that might arise when done in a plaza, more so, when the Manalos are not around. Here is an evidence of INCs' violent acts: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iSs652gTMm8.
Bro. Eli Soriano until now is waiting for Eraño "Ka Erdy" Manalo, to come out in the open to finally affirm his INC doctrines. Bro Eli's dare to the Manalos for a formal debate was even aired from a Philippine National television from UNTV Channel 37. See it at: http://youtube.com/watch?v=egFyG0mwU0w.
Bro Eli has employed every means and ways he could ever think of so that his dare for a debate reach the Manalos. Brother Eliseo F. Soriano has even placed his gusto, to once and for all stop this wanton type of battle thrown by the mockers INC, by posting a paid advertisement in The Manila Times broadsheet calling for a final debate per http://old.kaanib.net/index.php?row=6.
But Erano Manalo was no where to be found, except his most awaited response given to his minister Ramil Parba, crying out loud at their TV program, Ang Tamang Daan, that: Bro. Eli should first debate with the ex Pope John Paul II and speak in Latin, before our Presiding Minister (INC), Erano Manalo will face him." To the avid viewers dismay, they realized that the debate may never happen as the ex Pope is bed ridden. Watch it at the later part of the video here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=egFyG0mwU0w.
Soon after the publishing of the paid advertisement of the said announcement for a formal debate with INC, the ex Pope died, per http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iglesia_ni_Cristo.
But since the Executive Ministers of INC, will not accept the much awaited ultimate, debate of all time, even people are asking Bro Eli Soriano why he wants to debate with the Head Manalos and not to the INC Ministers themselves. One of the responses of Bro. Eli can be watched at http://youtube.com/watch?v=v5-26Hy0xfg.
Bro Eli tells them that Manalos should debate him if to be done at a Plaza, because this will prevent the INC violence for their MINISTERS' sake. Here is an example of a result of a supposedly debate between members of ADD and INC where the Manalos were not present: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iSs652gTMm8.
Some of the INC Ministers went to a Bible Exposition at General Trias, Cavite and tries to put self incriminating statements to the mouth of Bro Eli while asking him with regard to his teachings from the Bible. An INC Minister who introduced himself as Joselito Fernando Geron from Apalit Pampanga went infront to ask Bro Eli, though a Muslim name was called.
Joselito Geron started denying that Erano "Ka Erdy" Manalo will not debate but never said that Erano Manalo will accept the debate. He asked why Bro Eli insists on debating particularly Erano "Ka Erdy" Manalo, the Executive Minister of INC, not the wrong teachings. Bro Eli, as expected answered him based on the scripture. Brother Eli highlighted that the Apostles fight not the flesh or the person himself but the teachings and imaginations, and those rulers of the dark world, Ephesians 6:12.
Geron insisted that Bro Eli did not want to converse about the teachings. But Bro. Eli replied that even from the very beginning, he has been reading to him the teachings or verses from the scripture. You can witness the question and answer portion video at http://youtube.com/watch?v=Saqzw5nSdfA.
Since the Manalos has no guts to debate, Geron tried to debate with Bro Eli by making it as if he was just trying to ask him a question, about a doctrine that they clash on. This attempt to ask has an intent, to trick, because Geron was not there to just ask but to debate Bro Eli. Minister Joselito F. Geron continued and asked,
Bro Eli Soriano waited for the loud applause of the audience to subside, then answered Geron back:
Geron denies it but rather, he said that he was just asking. Since Geron continues to interrupt Bro Eli Soriano, Brother Willy Santiago, as part of the emcees of the bible exposition, took his turn to clarify the belief of Geron as representative of INC. But such a simple clarification, Geron cannot answer.
Brother Eliseo F. Soriano thus asked Geron to admit whether he was trying to debate or ask. Minister Joselito Geron denied it and insists that Bro Eliseo Soriano answers him because he attended the occasion to ask. Here is a copy of that program: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ek47zbQj83c.
Actually, it is really a new stand or doctrine of the INC which they just recently changed and revealed in their program, Ang Tamang Daan, that a "Holy Kiss" is "beso-beso". Before, they said that "the name Iglesia ni Cristo is the Holy Kiss". The name "Iglesia ni Cristo" is to be used to greet the Churches of Christ: http://youtobe.51ksp.com/watch?v=VJ_gxfGx6bU.
Here is a copy of that new explanation of their doctrine which they copied from a commentary of Wycliffe a protestant leader, and now became INC's STAND as further explained by Ramil Parba: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaUx7FRRUx0.
Another Minister, Mendoza went infront to ask Bro Eli and introduced himself as an INC member only and continued to deny his position as an INC Minister. He claimed that he is just a member, despite the insinuation given by the panel of ADD and ADD witnessess that he is really a Minister of INC. Both Ministers went infront without following the rules in the question and answer portion which is a first come first serve basis. Minister Mendoza claims that he just arrived and he has no knowledge of the rules and just wanted to ask. But knowing the INC that they are, Michael Sandoval, again revealed their true color at their own program. Sandoval actually prove that Mendoza lied for not telling that he is a Minister of INC, jsut a memeber. http://youtube.com/watch?v=qeigKz2lobs and http://youtube.com/watch?v=EhNBJfKpox4.
When Mendoza failed to get what he wanted, he then walked out giving a dirty finger. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_tglVPTQm9Y.
In contrary to Mendoza's action, Sandoval and Parba even exhibited this kind of hypocrisy from their own program. One episode of their program shows how they find it difficult to utter words such as "gago" (fool) and "tanga" (ignorant): http://youtube.com/watch?v=RT80A6xy4zU.
But can we blame them? Eraño Manalo was heard saying such word "gago" (fool) to a higher degree when he exclaimed, "napakagagong pangangasiwa...!" or "...so stupid administration that you spend for the polluter..." Even Erano Manalo claimed that almost all of their church workers are liars, insinuating that this includes himself. He also mentioned that his workers are cheats, thiefs, etc.: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VpTBfdw7Tsk.
An example of this was their mock/scripted debate between INC Ministers and a Catholic representative. INC Minister Parba said, "deception, deception!" as if referring to himself, for their scripted debate show. This is a cheap trick a Catholic Faith Defender called Mr. Talibong did to them just like what INC did in their Pasugo, adding and subtracting words from verses from the Holy Bible and or explaining the meaning of it differently: http://youtube.com/watch?v=wPywYyriumQ.
Now, even the internet was not spared to this kind of devilish technique as exhibited by a member of the INC, Arrabis, who out of no where, not only fought fangs but also spitted derogatory remarks to Jane Abao, a journalist by profession and a woman. Indeed, Arrabis, having not only the pleasure to name call Ms. Abao, even souls of commentors were not spared. Arrabis even extended his most treasured gift of his father by displaying it at his article at http://english.ohmynews.com/reader_opinion2/opinion_view.asp?code=2551757&menu=c10400&no=380872&rel_no=1&opinion_no=7&page=&isSerial=&sort_name=&ip_sort= copies entitled, "Another Chigoe Bites The Dust." While some of his writings can be found also at http://rizalino-arrabis.newsvine.com/?more=LatestComments.
According to the Institute for Propaganda Analysis, 1938,
"Bad names have played a tremendously powerful role in the history of the world and in our own individual development. They have ruined reputations, stirred men and women to outstanding accomplishments, sent others to prison cells, and made men mad enough to enter battle and slaughter their fellowmen. They have been and are applied to other people, groups, gangs, tribes, colleges, political parties, neighborhoods, states, sections of the country, nations, and races.”
It is noted in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_V._Manalo, that Eduardo Villanueva Manalo has contributed to the founding of an organization within the INC called The Association of Christians in Information Technology (AsCII), an organization consisting of INC members in the Information technology field who perform computer-related assistance to the church.
No wonder how their attempt to discredit Bro Eliseo Soriano plagued the cyberspace too!
Even, the video proof that INC placed on youtube.com is sufficient for anyone to realize that this people will do everything to achieve their self interest schemes. How can people see the real INC acts and what not when the captions, which are supposed to narrate the scenes, have almost covered the whole screen of the video? The narration points fingers to Marcos Mataro's shouting that caused the ill-fate of his ADD brothers.
But then again, no information was stated about what Mataro said from the shout that they heard. People wanted to witness how cruel INC can be. But the people were denied of this opportunity, instead they were slapped of a broadsheet like narration of the scene on their faces. Since they do not have the original copy, INC editors manipulated the video so that the manifested uncontrollable angst of INCs be stopped from being exhibited in the whole world. Again they tried to hide their true colors in vain. Please see the edited video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyoAWvcusk.
Indeed, INC editors are wrong, they cannot hide the truth by mangling a video copy, even the shout that they insinuate hearing from Marcos Mataro. Here is a clear video copy of the said issue: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iSs652gTMm8.
Below are the conversation which you will hear from the video translated in english:
"No, nothing like that... Do not, Do not... Psst... No grabbing of camera" and "why are you wringing the neck" and "NO beating up!", " Stop it!"
And then, the ADD brethrens sufferred the INCs' beating spree when they did not succeed on grabbing the camera. Every INC there wants to have a share of beating the ADD members and ex-INC members. The police officer even said:
"I didn't know what to do earlier on. Although I am an officer... they do not recognize even an officer... don't recognize anybody."
The police officer was talking about the INCs whom he has no power to control, not because of their numbers, but because these INCs won't even follow the LAW, what more of a police officer like him?
How come INC allowed Japanese occupants during the war, to decide who shall take over INC that made Felix Manalo stepped down from his office. Is it because of the Japanese decision? INC fears those that can hurt them physically!
Now, Arrabis and his INC brethren knows that the Ang Dating Daan members will not inflict bodily harm on them nor will malign them. http://angdatingdaantheoldpath.blogspot.com/2007/12/inc-fear-less-kuno.html
The latter part will show how the INC Ministers, specifically Michael Sandoval and Ramil Parba is putting the Muslims in their shoes. This was broadcasted at their program Ang Tamang Daan where these two INC Ministers, Michael Sandoval and Ramil Parba also unsolicitedly gave the brother Muslims tips on how to get Bro Eli when he visits in several places including his visits in Mindanao. An INC Minister Ramil Parba said,
"If I am a Muslim, I will not allow just that..., If I were an Abu Sayaff..., or MILF..., or if I am a suicide bomber member for example, surely I will not allow that...". "I will attack Apalit", immediately added by Michael Sandoval while giggling.
How can anyone laugh in these situation? They cannot help but giggle and laugh on the morbid situation that may result to slaughtering of their own countrymen! These INC Ministers know how to evoke anger from the viewers through subliminal insinuations that Bro Eli said bad things about the Filipino Muslims! This is shown at the latter part of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdnkoY7eHPQ.
Again, according to the Institute for Propaganda Analysis, 1938,
I have no practical idea why some of the the Filipino Muslims spokespersons agreed and has listened to INC Ministers' manipulation. But biblical facts says it all that this is a work of the devil.
The Muslims that was seen in youtube are very much mad to Bro Eli because of the mangled tapes. Are not they aware of how INC Ministers plays not only with videos to make Bro Eli look bad. INC Ministers also wants Muslim Brothers and the Ang Dating Daan to fight, so that INC can get away with their lies?
Yes, people might have taken that INCs' brutal acts are just mere gossips. http://iglesianicristo.wordpress.com/iglesia-ni-cristos-member-guilty-supreme-court/.
But the truth is, though INCs have nothing to avenge in the flesh and spirit, they still placed it, even the law of the land in their own hands. Are these Iglesia ni Cristo INC members headed by the Manalos really God's people?
Again, brutality and wanton acts are not the members' of the Members, Church of God, International cup of tea. According to angdatingdaan.org:
"In that Jollibee incident where the X-Manalistas encountered their former brothers, the Apalit Police were said to simply view the event because they could not handle about 300 Manalistas around. Some 14 of the brothers who arrived to reinforce the team with a human cordon were the ones hit, in varying degrees, some of them knuckled hard in the head, face and lower limbs. A video catch on this incident was presented for viewing to the congregation and elicited various reactions. It was explained that this was being shown to the brethren for them to know what’s happening but a stern warning was given not to retaliate. This was an order from Bro. Eli, as well as a teaching in the Bible." http://www.angdatingdaan.org/publications/pub_believer_4.htm
at 22:02 on January 21st, 2008
Could Erano Manalo of the Iglesia ni Cristo have died?
Why is he so silent despite attack on his teachings?
Are they keeping the truth secret because it would
mean fall of power of his church? Or is he simply in hiding because he
is afraid to answer the call of Eli Soriano for a debate?
Who was the one who had a birthday last January 2? Or did he really have it? Is he really alive?
Even his self-appointed defender, Arrabis, had to give up on the question of LAST MESSENGER.
at 08:49 on January 23rd, 2008
Of course, the old Manalo is an angel, his son Erano is an angel too who is capable to hide.
Could Felix Manalo, as he claims himself to be the last messenger and an angel, be that angel Erano Manalo saw in his bedroom as the story goes on in the compounds of INC?
Erano said that this angel gave him a message, a warning that will happen after 30 minutes, if computed based on their computation would mean lapsed already!
at 18:11 on January 29th, 2008
REALLY? And what is that message that has lapsed already?
Man! That cannot be!
A messenger of God cannot make that much mistake!
Or else he is just faking it all!
at 10:13 on February 3rd, 2008
They said, they heard Erano was given a message that Jesus Christ will return after 30 minutes. Can anyone from the INC say something about this.
Surely, never in my dreams I would expect an angel telling me the exact time of the return of Jesus Christ and believe in it. How far are the illusions of this Manalo would cater Satan's broadcast of lies and deception?
Zechariah 3:
1 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him. 2 The LORD said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, Satan! The LORD, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?"
at 21:53 on February 4th, 2008
Haha!
Very funny!
They can do this because some are willing to be fooled.
Or because their minds have become darkened from the hardness of their hearts.
Who are they to be empowered to know when Christ would come back when even Christ said He did not know?
I
am glad I was not enticed by their magnificent chapels. Some have been,
you know. It is the first motivator. But once inside, I learned, things
are different.
Hey, the INC does not care to respond
anymore. Especially that rabid Arrabis. For his comments, he has
effectively destroyed my Reporter's Desk in a Korean site. But he has
mellowed from his activity. Perhaps he was not given any funds for
risking his hide for too long from us.
at 11:54 on February 22nd, 2008
Arrabis left trails in the cyberspace, a humiliating truth... you will know what I mean just search for a forum where he requests for the personal info of his soon to be victims before he spit out to their souls. His mouth is full of crap! His posts and comments are enough proof.
I guess he is not the youngest Manalo, or is he!? Just asking...
at 13:08 on June 12th, 2008
rizalino l arrabis, where is ka erano manalo? don't worry, as soon as ka erano or any of his sons comes out to the open to debate with bro eli, INC will not need of your malicious or rumor mongering writing skills.
at 04:43 on June 26th, 2008
Rizalino,
Poor you, you are in deep trouble. But if you will just be true to yourself, you will realize that you are alone in this battle. Do your ministers know that you are doing this in defense of your church? Or maybe they are paying you for this. Well, all i can say is that they are paying you a little amount of money - because your rebuttals are so cheap. Ill ask them to pay you a higher amount of money so that your reasons and arguments would have more sense. I understand that it is like that in your church, if you don't get anything out of it, no effort exerted. Remember the famous lines of your nowhere-to-be found SIR: "sweldo ang hinahanap, yung tulong nya, yung bahay nya... pero ang iglesia ayaw nang pagsilbihan", I suppose that was directed to your ministers, but your ministers are the ones teaching you, right? Or maybe i should ask you this: are you a member or a minister??? Answer please...
at 08:19 on June 27th, 2008
Arrabis,
Darn you! What did you say I admitted? What padlocked convention center? Did your Mayor stooge claim he had padlocked it? Haha! For all those posturings on TV, no he has not! And he cannot! Unless God allows it, we shall be free to worship our God the almighty, no matter how many stooges you send to pull us down.
By this time, you have turned into a vicious liar with a very brutal language, all products of a very dark mind with a filthy heart. Therefore, while you try to project each one of us as evil, beginning with twisting our names, you cannot answer one bit of the questions we ask of you.
Where is Manalo? Why doesn't he instead debate by Bro. Soriano instead of fabricating cases and using those excommunicated people as bullets?
at 09:24 on July 3rd, 2008
Rizalino L. ARRABIS,
“I am glad that you told the truth that I effectively destroyed your Reporter's Desk in a Korean site.”
Haha! I have my wons there, you know. Your lies are no match for me. Yes, you are very destructive, and yet you congratulate yourself. Is that how your church forms you over there?
Are you lost in the woods? Can you not hear yourself? Why do your repeat what you have to say? Twice, thrice! Many times you echo! Or isn’t this a manifestation of what has happened to your mind already? Consorting long with the demon has that effect. Shouting besides shows one gone berserk for not being able to find his prey.
Yes, prey. You have long been tearing Bro. Soriano to pieces and for sure you are going to pay. Not in the hands of men but in the hands of the one who sent him – be sure of that. Soriano is not retaliating, of course, because of the admonition of God not to seek revenge, as God is the one to avenge for a servant of God. And when He does it, you can be sure it will be hell. And you will get it sooner or later – in the lake of fire. You had been smiling for 5 months? Wow! Crazy you! What hollow victory!
Beginning with Soriano’s name, you have changed it into what sounds derogatory to you. How hatred for someone you do not even know has transformed you into a devil also!
You call us a cult? Not so! You’re the cult - even of liars and murderers! Don’t those newspapers reveal what you are? What happened to those 5 PUP students that your church group have incinerated, burned, and then thrown into the Pasig River? Didn’t the Supreme Court record this? Don’t you ever view those talking, lying birds in your Ang Taing Daan as you termed it? ATD is your program, right? Your poor counterfeit of our successful, multi-awarded Ang Dating Daan. Look at them and see the kind of ministers you have. And then we are the ones you call a cult?
There’s one who came from your camp who said, had he not heard the preaching of Soriano, he would not have learned to have mercy. All he knew was that to protect your sugo meant sure salvation. And yet all he bore in his heart was hatred when he was with you.
So, you’re looking for Soriano so that the long awaited debate will push through? You are asking for his phone number, his emails ads, his fax number, and what more? Well, well, that is what the world is waiting for. Prove it now! Produce your sugo and let us see what he knows. How many verses? Does he even understand even a couple of those? It is written, those who are foolish cannot understand. So how could he have taught you? Isn’t the way you are behaving now, enough manifestations that Manalo cannot teach you?
As for cases, you can file as many charges as you can imagine. After all, you have the influence of the government. You can incarcerate Soriano for all those cases you have mocked up – but you cannot incarcerate his spirit.
The secretary general here is a woman – never the excommunicated one you are trying to use against Soriano. Daniel Veridiano was excommunicated for various offenses. Hehe! Why don’t you listen to what he has been saying against your sugo and your church? Is this the one now you will believe? After he went to your camp, you have made him twice the devil he already is! And now, he is your witness? Do you really know this guy? The offenses why he was sent out?
You can have your Veridiano and use him as your bullet. As for you, you can continue to do evil as you preferred. Wasn’t that foretold in the bible? Many more shall be purified, but the evil will continue to do evil.
Intiende?
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Anonymous (not verified)at 00:00 on July 10th, 2008
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Rizalino Arabiz,
It seems the topic here is way out of hand, your comment to Bro Eli Soriano is on Personal Side. What supposed to be discussed here is Church Fundmentals and Teachings. As what your minister said Erano Manalo, through his own WORDS and MOUTH, " Walang Matino na Manggawa Kahit Isa " eh si Ka Erdy Manggawa din sya !, kaya kasama siya dun. It did not come from anybody, or to any other Pastors !. WALA NA TAYONG PAGTATALUNAN DIYAN !!!.
at 01:41 on July 17th, 2008
There seem to be a big coverup here. I really smell something fishy in the way arrabis points out his pointless views. It is very obvious that he is covering the query of wormwood as to the whereabouts of Eraño Manalo. Arrabis is evading the question and is trying to blur and confuse the thinking of the readers with his erratic moods and playing with words.<?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O />
To his dismay, he sounded like a clanging cymbal, repeating all over again his malignant and senseless views. Nothing is new with his style. He has done this already before in other sites. The only difference now is that he is becoming more furious and fuming with fire likened to his father satan hurling with fire and wrath devouring true Christians and engulfing them with his whims and caprice.In fact, the truth is that many members of the iglesia ni manalo now have realized that actually they have no visible leaders to depend on. They are really tired of waiting. So they silently shout in the cyberspace. One of these is rizalino arrabis. Poor arrabis, as if he is alone now in his fight. He is clinging to his belief that the iglesia ni manalo is the true church.
Arrabis’ idea here is to defend the rotten iglesia ni manalo, demolish and neutralize the alleged detractors believing to be the battle of the heartless and mindless people. Yes, he knows pretty well that he has done a good job worthy of recognition from the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />university of satan.
Whatever society or association he belongs, one thing is sure he belongs to his father, the liar and the author of all abomination and the great ancestor of manalo called satan. Arrabis, defending the name of iglesia ni manalo at any cost, making him very much capable to maligning and persecuting the people who boldly contradicts the teachings of the manalos. Nothing good really can be expected, for their schemes are to resort merely to name-calling and ruin the personal lives of their oppositor, well, this is the usual resort by those who no longer can find solace in their doctrines.
Arrabis thought that by doing so, they could win the favor of many. For all they know, it only adds up to their predicament. They are now messed up and it can no longer be denied, that their members are perishing, dwindling and diminishing everyday. That is the reason why they want Mr. Eliseo Soriano be vanished by hook or by crook.
There tactics of using the Muslim brothers to insinuate anger against Bro Eli because of the mangled tapes the iglesia ni manalo has made, became more apparent and evident that they are just using others for their vengeance. It is their way of retaliating for they no longer can find ways and schemes to prevent the exodus and the speedy dwindling number of their members. You can just imagine, baptizing a measly 4 individuals in a mass indoctrination. Oh, how desperate one can be, to know that they lose hundreds of members and gain only 4.
We can now imagine how they believe that their viewers are incapable of intelligence. It can be seen in their movement and actuations while on camera that they want to pretend that they are composed and tamed. I suppose, those rotten skulls and remains of a dead person are covered by whitely painted cement or luxurious designs just to cover up the horrifying truth. Likened to the iglesia ni manalo, seemingly ostentatious and impressive in looks but deep inside it, are rotten and decomposing doctrines and disintegrating membership.
While their two ministers giggles and laughs while insinuating and thought that they can persuade the Filipino Muslims and other groups to be offended because of those mangled tape they made against Bro Eli, they did not notice that they were the ones being laughed at on obvious reasons, they are like puppets and robots being operated to by their leaders programmed to spread destruction and devastation to human kind. Indeed, these ministers of satan are masters in their field and knows how to evoke anger from the viewers through their dark insinuations that could eventually encourage wrath to those ignorant of the truth and consequently could make one decide to kill or exterminate Mr. Eliseo Soriano. The real intent really of these ministers of satan, such as manalo, sandoval, barba, etc., is certainly to induce our Muslim brothers to follow the manalo’s evil schemes.
Thanks God, there are still many Muslim brothers who are good and wise. They don’t just believe in the propaganda and insinuations of the manalo’s.
at 04:41 on July 23rd, 2008
For your information Mr. A-Rubbish-mouth-fuming-with-fire and rubbish,
Here is the truth and nothing but the truth. Please open this site:
http://www.relijournal.com/Religion/Central-in-Apalit-Vs-Central-in-Diliman-Not-a-Coincidence-But-Preordained.178177