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8pm No Winner at Vision yet
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by mtippett | June 15, 2008 at 07:31 pm
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DSC_630522975 - 3 mayoral candidates: Raymond Louie (V V), David Cadman (COPE) & Gregor Robertson (V V) - V V = Vancouver Vision
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It is now 8 pm--three hours after the polls closed at the Vision nomination convention and as yet--no announced winner.
Frances Bula had projected on her blog that results would come in around 6:45 ish and here it is 75 minutes later and still no results.
During the wait, I spoke with former COPE Councillor, Tim Louis, who is at home with partner Dr Penny Parry eagerly awaiting results. Mr. Louis figures Mr. Robertson will win on the first ballot because of his huge machine.
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at 09:52 on June 16th, 2008
Two observations:
1. As in many elections, many elderly ethnic voters got bussed in to the poll with inadequate ID they therefore either could not vote or were denied the chance to vote. Their hearts were in the right places, but. they failed to deliver the votes.
[I stand corrected. At the Vision election - just like at any election - they were allowed to vote using the statutory declaration process, but this added to time taken to complete the process.]
The fault perhaps lay with the organisers. But perhaps they don't want to insult the voters by hammering the point time and time again.
2. Al DeGenova, didn't show up for the announcing of the results. Without sounding too harsh, methink that was poor form and a ready concession that he's not a front runner.
PK
at 09:56 on June 16th, 2008
Patrick, thanks for your thoughts. I agree with you wrt to DeGenova not showing up. That is pretty bad.
As for organizational mismanagement, it is my understanding that most of the busing was done by the Louie camp so it isn't bad organization generally but perhaps just bad organization within the Louie team. If you're going to be busing in 20-50% of your supporters then presumably you should be able to ensure that they understand the rules of the nomination. The Gregor campaign was crystal clear about the requirements. What's wrong with the Louie group? If you can't get your own supporters organized then how are you going to manage a city?
at 10:13 on June 16th, 2008
I was corrected by someone in the know - as I stated in [ ] above - that they were allowed to vote using the statutory declaration process.
The problem has always been that the predominantly "traditional" housewives of these ethnic groups do not have any ID no matter how strongly one reminds them. They have no driver licences, no bank accounts, no hydro bills sent to their names. Everything's in the husbands' names. The husbands are not about to spend the $35 for a BC-ID ...
And if they do have a passport, that's no good for any election either: there is no home address on that document.
This has been a perennial problem. Perhaps some one at Elections BC or Elections Canada can come up with a solution...
PK
at 10:18 on June 16th, 2008
Mike responded to my initial post before I added the [I stand corrected...] bit.
PK
at 11:50 on June 16th, 2008
Under those circumstances it's amazing that their husbands even let them out of the kitchen, let alone vote! What kind of tradition doesn't let women have their own ID (even at the cost of $35)?!