Fanning the flames of hysteria: Talk of Obama's Internment Camps

by smkovalinsky | August 12, 2009 at 06:59 am
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The fringe right are at it again,   with a new zeal and a sense of renewed purpose:  They are hell-bent on spreading the word that President Obama et al  are quietly building internment camps,  to which hordes of Americans will soon be herded,  if they are in opposition to Obama's healthcare reform,  or any of his other reforms.
Sound silly?  Yes,  it is,  but it is also all too true.  Of course, certain factions of the left wing fringe were doing the same throughout the eight years of the W Bush administration.  Same song,  different singer.  The question is,  why?  Of course,  a certain amount of paranoia is natural enough,  especially for those inclined to hysteria,  when the opposition comes into power.  However,  this beating the drum of Obama being a neo-fascist who wants Hitler-like power is extreme,  even under these circumstances of economic collapse and party shift.   So whence comes this fanning the flames of a situation already on the borderline of loss of control?  Is it boredom?  Do some on the right actually wish for such a Nazi scenario to play out,  rescuing them from the tedium of their lives and making Democrats look evil to boot?   One thing is certain:  Not a scrap of evidence can be found for the existence of these "camps under construction":  http://gmerkt.blogspot.com/2009/08/fema-concentration-camp-story-is-hoax.html
I have noticed the zeal and almost gleeful nature of some of the anti-Obama blog postings:  He is a covert fascist,  quietly biding his time,  having no plans to leave office after 2 or even 3 terms;  he is a totalitarian in the making,  stepping onto the historical stage at the appointed hour ,  to reveal ,  suddenly,  that the  WW II era is making a comeback.  How disappointed all will be,  to discover that nothing quite so exciting is headed our way.  

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a211423

Those in oppositon whether it is a political party or lobbying entities, such as insurance companies in the health reform debate, thrive on the shock value of extremes to rally the fearful masses.  This is how they get media attention. They are manipulators who have the financial backing to advance any concept whether its true or false makes no difference.  And what better forum to further misinformation than recalling images of the past whom history has declared evil? 

Of course no evidence will be found of camps, but that doesn't matter because tactics like these take on a life of their own and give the malcontents raison d'etre

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smkovalinsky

Yes,  you have hit the nail on the head.  Your analysis is a shrewd one.  Well spoken. 

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a211423

Thank you.

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Harvard Hollenberg

OBAMA’S CONDUCT ON HEALTH CARE REFORM

IS SCHIZOPHRENOGENIC

By Harvard Hollenberg

 

            President Barack Obama’s performance, yesterday, August 11, 2009, at a New Hampshire “town meeting” was illustrative of his state of mind on health care reform, which is, itself, schizoidal.  He seems to be saying, “I’m thinking of a word.  (A) If Congress fails to guess the word, there will be no health care reform.  (B)  Whatever  word on the subject Congress enacts (voila!), THAT will be health care reform.”

            This attitude is schizophrenogenic because it engenders fragmentation, confusion, paranoia, and rational fear.  It is the opposite of leadership.

            The President’s vagueness is becoming excruciating.  Without proposed legislation, physicians are obligated to preserve life to the uttermost.  Paying physicians to engage in required end-of-life discussions with elderly patients can therefore have only one objective, to induce fragile patients to curtail their own lives for the convenience of care givers.  Moreover, there can never be informed consent to end one’s own life, because informed consent entails complete information.  Since no one can state, as a fact, what happens after we die, informed consent to discontinue treatment is based upon the seductiveness of death as a purported surcease of suffering and the special pleading that goes along with other people’s assessment of the cost and indecorousness of prolonging life.

            Moreover, is there any rule, proposed anywhere, that would require care givers to search, with the proverbial fine-tooth comb, for every experiment, hypothesis, trial, test, article, and manuscript awaiting publication relating to possibly ameliorating a patient’s condition before advising that patient or his or her relatives of the futility of further efforts to sustain life?  The lonely survivor at sea cannot possibly know about the sail of the ship that could save him that is still beyond the horizon.  What legislation mandates that care givers search beyond the horizon?

            When asked about end-of-life physician-patient conferences and the concern that such a provision could be a precursor to euthanasia, Mr. Obama said, “I’m against it.”

Precisely which “it’ is Mr. Obama against?  Is he against the provision mandating such conferences or is he against euthanasia?  And if the (let’s be kind) unintended consequences of such conferences result in the untimely “mercy” killing of the elderly, what good does it do to oppose a result the legislation he will sign predestines?

            A similar question Mr. Obama finessed related to withholding treatments viewed as not cost-effective.  Mr. Obama converted that topic to that of unnecessary, duplicative tests.  That was not the question.  The question, as I like to phrase it, because I despise baseball, is: will we have a process by which, e.g., Mickey Mantle, whose life, fans would say, is easily more important than anyone else’s, but whose crystal clear prognosis is certain death, gets a precious liver in preference to some other, less rapacious drinker, with a better predictable outcome?  In other words, Mr. Obama dodged the question of rationing where there is no alternative to rationing, as in the case of organ transplants.

            I’m sorry, Sarah, but you were right the first time.  If a panel of experts is going to decide whether I am too old and fat to have surgery to correct my degenerative spinal condition, and that panel says Elizabeth Taylor can be reimbursed, under Medicare, for the same operation, what’s wrong with calling such a committee not only a “death panel,” but a death panel guided by fascist principles?

            I am sick to death of Obama’s railing against the small print in insurance contracts and then demanding, as an act of loyalty, we support health care reform, so far, written in what amounts to invisible ink!

            You’ve had your forty days and forty nights, Uncle Moish.  Time to reveal the Ten Commandments or the Fourteen Points or the Four Freedoms or the Square Deal, the New Deal, Lend Lease, the Fair Deal, the New Frontier, a thousand points of light or “you’re doin’ a heckuva job, Brownie.”  It’s time to tell the country what you really stand for, and if you are too pusillanimous to speak clearly, with one voice, then you should resign, yes, even in favor of our beloved, clearly brain damaged, but far more candid Vice President, Joe Biden.

Harvard Hollenberg is a writer and appellate lawyer in New York City.

© Copyright Harvard Hollenberg 2009.  All rights reserved.

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Health Care non-debate is making me sick

The problem is not the fact that there is opposition to the health care reforms. There is legitimate debate required about issues such as end of life care, and the evaluation of who gets care - of course under the insurance system who gets care is not so much about medical viability of the procedure but cash - if you have it you get the care, if not you're out of luck, and time. (It is just as wrong to claim that insurance companies are playing God for cash, fascists - but paid off)

Much of your comment is useful and serves to point ot certain real issues. The problem is that people like yourself are keeping the country from being able to have debate by using inflamatory rhetoric like "Death Panels". And your entire comment is covered by a flowery rhetoric (sophistry, actually) that serves to cover up issues and agitate people enough to keep them from even looking at, understanding and making comment on particular issues that are of concern to them.

Let's here those issues, without the stuff in between

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mbaumgartner

smkovalinsky, I've added a NowPublic scan to your story that follows the real-time converstaion about health care reform on twitter. Thanks for your post, I hope we can host a real debate on the issues here, it seems someone other than main stream media has to uncover the facts of this important issue.

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smkovalinsky

Thank you.  Great idea.  

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a211423

I agree to participate, and to make my arguments credible I will reference them to the Health Reform Bill. (Phew!)  This will be daunting, but its the only way to discuss the issues as written, not as interpreted by fear mongers. 

 

 

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smkovalinsky

Yes,  daunting,  but much needed! thank you.

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