Larry David Urinates on Pic of Jesus in "Curb Your Enthusiasm"

Maybe it was holy water?

Nanute, I think your comment is obnoxious. You both demonstrate why liberalism is no longer the liberalism of Hubert Humphrey.

If someone had peed on Mohammed's or Obama's pic, you would both be delivering sermons full of righteousness.

Thanks for revealing your true natures. It will make attempting to "dialogue", an activity whose futility now becomes comprehensible. Grazie.

No,  it is weak humor,  weak and without dignity,  and I do not condone it.  It is stale and outmoded.  not good,  - I refer to LD and JS and not nanute :(

Weak humor? Would it not be a major act of arrogance by someone full of contempt for a religion which he might fairly criticize? This destroys "fellow feeling", as that is its intention.

Just to make it clear, I have never been disturbed by Serrano's Piss Christ, because there was a message to contemplate behind it.

I also was not a bit disturbed by Chris Ofili's use of dung in a picture depicting the Blessed Virgin. Ofili is an idiot, though, not to explain what dung and earth and the Divine Feminine mean in the context.

Larry David, though, is just self-indulgence, from what I can see.

Before 9/11, the Taliban revealed their "true natures" by blowing up the statues of the Buddha. Not just any statues, but statues that were a thousand years old, by the way.

That was a declaration of war on Buddhism and a statement of their authoritarian nature and their willingness to persecute those who had other faiths.

Larry David's gesture is not very different. I know no churches are going to be blown up, but Serrano's Piss Christ says it all.

The world's view of self-sacrifice and the sacred is depicted with precision in that photo.

Would you be outraged if the pissed on had been someone other than Jesus - say Mother Theresa, Buddha, Muhammad , Gandhi, Baal etc etc. Is your outrage the pissing on an icon or the fact that it is Jesus?

I don't think the LD skit particularly funny, but I guess I am trying to figure out the outrage cause. I dis however think Nanute's comment acerbic and funny. If that makes me a bad person and not capable of dialog I would be a little surprised.

What is the dividing line here? What can be mocked and what not? Are some things so sacrosanct that attempts at humor (even bad humor) are not allowed. Isn't that the same exact mind set that saw the Taliban blow up the Buddha statues. That sounds an awful lot like intolerance and putting one faith above criticism. That is a very slippery slope and why we are so proud of tolerance, pluralism and freedom of speech. Or is it freedom of speech/expression unless one is critical of  Jesus? If you uphold the standard, uphold it consistently or admit it is lip service

Do you think that you can convince me that you don't have a double standard? I don't think so. Mocking people's religious icons? Sure, but that is what this is? A simple mocking of an overstated faith?

Hey, I own a copy of Monty Python's "Life of Brian", which doesn't mock Jesus at all, but rather his "false followers" and followers of  "false messiahs". I love the film.

Unlike most of the people in San Francisco when I saw the film, I actually get the jokes, which secularists don't get.

If I peed on Obama's pic, would I be a racist, and would we  be having this discussion? Yeah, you would reveal the non-Hubert Humphrey modern liberal hypocrisy of today in that act, but the only thing is that I would never pee on an iconic image of anything or anyone.

I would produce "Life of Brian" and I would produce "The Meaning of Life", but they didn't mock the essentials. They mocked the idiots. Can't get the difference? I get that you can't get it.

Intolerance is what it is whether it is Christian, Jewish or Islamic. You can dress it up in whatever Emperors Clothes you want . I wanted to understand the root of your outrage. Now I do. I respect it. I just don't agree with it.

Or atheist. Or liberal.

Or atheist. Or liberal.

Agreed. The list could go on racist, homophobic, xenophobic etc etc. Intolerance is endemic, systemic and cancerous IMHO. It is akin to tribal allegiance almost. You're in my tribe or not, and it is how you deal with the how not part of the equation that dictates an acceptance of pluralism or a veer towards intolerance. It is a fine line, and one that requires constant caution.

May Larry David's offensive organ come to an untimely end in the very near future. : )

in the words of Louis Kronenberger ...
"There seems to be a terrible misunderstanding on the part of a great many people to the effect that when you cease to believe you may cease to behave".

Common decency, manners, and respect for others seems to have gone by the wayside. Why not piss on your mother's grave while we are all in a pissing contest. It is despicable and offensive. Period.

An interesting quote, that of Louis Kronenberger. Another one below:

The Romans committed one act, one specific act, that was totally an atrocity to the ancient Jews. Pompey was the Roman general that, after conquering Judea, entered the Holy of Holies where the Arc of the Covenant was kept.

The Jews never forgave the Romans for that disgrace, which was completely unnecessary.

Even the Romans were not debased sufficiently to scorn Jesus in such a manner.

Do we have the right to express ourselves? Surely we do, and rejoice because we do. Does it hurt Jesus? Hardly. Christians? No, just our feelings and sensibilities.

Does do a good job of revealing the mindset, maturity level, and arrogance of those enjoying themselves?  We can each make that decision for ourselves. 

I would be willing to wager a large sum of money on the following:  Each of those participating in this comedy would say, that they support "diversity".   Any takers?

Because they are tolerant, and superior, they seem to have reserved for themselves the right to choose what is tolerated. Their is a word for that................

Not knowing which word, I do have candidates, including arrogance, the real crime against the Spirit. Hypocrisy and narcissism also come to mind.

Your God (whatever is is) is not necessarily my god.

What you see as truth, I may not

What you declare sacred, does not make it so for me

I accept your view even though I may not agree.

I do not seek to ban your freedom of expression

And that, is tolerance, and that to me is important. It may not be for you

OMG wit next,am with queens heart here.

 Quote:"Here, Larry David expresses his real feelings of contempt for Christianity, even if the US, founded by Christians, has proven itself to be the safest country in the world for Jews to live in for the last two centuries, and while the US continues to be the country to safeguard, many would even say "indulge", Israel. "

Hey folks I am a little late to this discussion but I do not care for nor watch anything David produces. I find the humor quite frankly crude, self-deprecating and NOT funny. That aside, if he puts it out there then everyone has a right to go after him.

I do take a bit of an offense to the  statement quoted  above from some one I consider a friend on Now Public.  

I do not think that Larry David's actions has anything to do with the state of Jews in America. David is known for his anti-Israeli, left-wing views and his anti-religious tendencies. If you take your anger and outrage out on the Jewish community as a whole assuming they are ungrateful for the blessing to live in America then you miss the mark. Stay focused on Mr. David and his actions which I believe is closer to the truth. The entire Jewish community is not on trial here.

Thanks,

Steve

Steve, I don't think that he represents the Jewish community, just himself and left-wingers of Hollywood.

I stand by my quote about his personal expression of hostility to Christianity and his own lack of appreciation of the opportunity, even if imperfect, of Jews in the US and the US's support of Israel.