Putting a face on "consensual incest": Odd statement of Phillips

by Susan Marie Kovalinsky | September 23, 2009 at 11:20 am
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"I can't be the only one this has happened to," Phillips said. "Someone needs to put a face on consensual incest."


Former child star calls father "  a very tortured man".  


Former child star (best known for her role as 'Julie'  on the feminist '70 sit-com,  "One Day at a Time",  co-starring Valerie Bertinelli )  and long time drug addict and rehab patient Mackenzie Phillips has a new tell-all book,  with excerpts preluded on Oprah.  No doubt this "affair",  which began when the actress was only eleven,  and went on until she was 21,  actually occurred.  Drugs muddle the mind and dissolve the boundaries.  Any father who would do drugs with his child would most likely not be squeamish about initiating sex with her,  either.  

I find it odd that Phillips speaks of "putting a face on consensual incest",  although no doubt it did become consensual.  But it is a very strange consent.  The daughter who depends on the father is not likely to object if this is what he seems to want or need.   Freud and Jung as well,  spoke of the naturalness of incestual longing and fantasy.  Jung went so far as to speak of the "royal"  nature of the incest between father and daughter,  but it is likely he was thinking more of the quasi-love affair  -  such as the young Clara Schumann is said to have had with her father  -  than the lurid drug fueled sex which occurred in Phillip's case.


Colin Wilson in his book,  Jung:  Lord of the Underworld  goes on to explain that Jung had some discomfort in confronting a female patient who had had consensual incest sex with her brother.  But the upper class from which many of his patients came,  is always rife with such tales.    In any case,  although I have always found Ms. Phillips abrasive,  I certainly cannot judge her,  as none of us not in her shoes  know what would become of us had we had such a father.   

CHICAGO — Former child star Mackenzie Phillips said Wednesday her father, John Phillips, who was a leader of the 1960s pop group the Mamas and the Papas, raped her when she was a teenager and that her sexual relationship with him later became what she termed "consensual."

Mackenzie Phillips writes in her new book, "High on Arrival," that she had sex with her father on the night before she was to get married in 1979 at age 19, according to People magazine.

Phillips wrote in her book: "I woke up that night from a blackout to find myself having sex with my own father."

She told "The Oprah Winfrey Show" in an interview that aired Wednesday that her siblings "definitely have a problem with this." Winfrey also read a statement from Genevieve Waite, John Phillips' wife at the time of the alleged abuse and Mackenzie's stepmother. Waite's statement said John Phillips was "incapable, no matter how drunk or drugged he was, of having such a relationship with his own child."

Phillips, 49, who starred on TV's "One Day at a Time," said the sexual relationship with her father lasted a decade and ended when she became pregnant and didn't know who had fathered the child. She had an abortion, which her father paid for, and "and I never let him touch me again."

Phillips told Winfrey that she first tried cocaine when she was 11 years old. Her father did drugs with her, taught her to roll joints and injected her with cocaine. Phillips said she's been clean for a year after pleading guilty to possessing cocaine and entering a drug treatment program.

She said she confronted her father in the early stages of the abuse, which she described as rape.

"My dad said, 'Raped you? Don't you mean when we made love?' And in that moment I thought, 'Wow, I'm really on my own here,'" Phillips said. She learned to turn her anger toward herself and "boxed it away" rather than think about the drug-fueled incest, she said.

Phillips said she doesn't hate her father, who died in 2001 of heart failure at the age of 65.

"I understand that he was a very tortured man and ... passed that torture down to me," she said.

Phillips said the sexual relationship, although she believes it eventually became consensual, was "an abuse of power" and "a betrayal" on her father's part. She said she forgave John Phillips on his deathbed.

"I can't be the only one this has happened to," Phillips said. "Someone needs to put a face on consensual incest."

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Arbol

But... I thought the Bible had already put a face on consensual incest? Lol.

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Uwe Paschen

The Oedipus complex , in psychoanalytic theory, is a group of largely unconscious (dynamically repressed) ideas and feelings which centre around the desire to possess the parent of the opposite sex and eliminate the parent of the same sex.The complex is named after the Greek mythical character Oedipus.


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Arbol

I don't know if that would be the definite reason behind this specific case, but if it was then it would be the Electra complex. However, the theory says this 'confusion' begins in early childhood, and the sexual relationship between Mackenzie Phillips and her father began after she'd grown up. And she said she was RAPED first, meaning she was clearly no "in love" with him (She even wrote: "Your father is supposed to protect you, not f* you"). Moreover, Mackenzie never talked about "hating" her mother, as far as I know. Freudian theories are too rigid and many cases may end up unexplained. I would call this a case of Stockolm Syndrome at best, but the drug abuse is another factor to keep in mind, and may too explain their behavior.

In the end, only she and her father know the reason. It's a tragic story. That's why I posted the first comment. I think discussing this leads nowhere. This is just one of those stories where all you can do is learn the lesson and love and protect your children from similar abuses.

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