Rev. Martin Luther King Died in Vain, says Bush.

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The International Institute of Nonviolence.


Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. is "The Founding Father of America."


Rev. Martin Luther King Died in Vain, says Bush.


Opin.


By Rev. Jermano


Listening to Rev. Wright’s remarks in concern to damning America reminds us of our past Great Spiritual Leader Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. We are damning America and its past administrations for their crimes, that never are brought to justice. We always get deceitful politicians and they are never held accountable. We do not get impeachment because of the fear in being targeted, by the perceived  administration that has privy to secret op-assassins to stop such proceedings. They are the very forces who killed John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert Kennedy, our beloved Rev. Martin Luther King, Malcolm Little, along with many others. What kind of an America do we have when Barack Obama will not speak out against the murder of a brother gunned down in cold blood during his wedding party in New York City. America is under seige to the forces of violence. It's a force that uses the Military and Civil Police to do their crimes, calling it a national service. But I think we are awakening to defeat that violent apparatus..through the practices of nonviolence. 


Do I oppose Rev. Wright ? Not for a moment.  God Bless Rev. Wright and he should be saying more. Obama should be more supportive to his Pastor. MLK held similar speeches in congregations on Sunday warning us of the perils of a country absorbed in the false ideals of militarism, and violence. I stand honestly and willingly this Easter season to congratulate and support Rev. Wright in his stand toward seeking a nonviolent country, in seeking a nonviolent President, and speaking from the context that anyone that is sermonizing hate of America; are really the people who support financially the military and Civil Police who at home and go abroad to kill innocent families in America, in Iraq and in Afghanistan.


Those who are willing to distance them-selves from the harsh realities in hearing such news because they support war and killing will face their crippling realities when their War Crimes eventually come to the courts of heaven acclaiming the death and destruction to millions with the merciful verdict that there will be no welcome to them in our hearts. Heaven is about love. It is not about so called loving hearts that kill people. Gods actions that take life because of storms or acts of God are his doing because he is the creator. Men who say they take lives under the direction of God are deceivers, because God does not authorize or delegate his power of creation which includes the taking of life upon the decision of a single man called a President.


This is what makes him God. No one can obtain such authority.


Rev. Wright brings home the message loud and clear that violence has no place in our great society. We shall not allow those chickens to come home to roost! It makes the message loud and clear that those who are disenfranchised and poor in America living in ghettos, and seeing no future have a burning desire to unleash their anger; because of the injustices inside America to get a better life; they succumb to enlisting in the military. “Take out your anger toward terrorists in foreign lands, never mind Katrina" the government declares. 


And while we are unable to fix the malady of injustice and discrimination within our own society, we claim to be able to fix other societies in foreign lands. Talk about a disparaging concept when language barriers and customs are so uniquely not our own….yet we boldly and proudly anticipate benevolent change from the end of a barrel of a gun! It is insanity at its highest level of understanding.


There have only been 8 men in the world’s history who have gone before us telling us and showing us the path toward freedom and peace. They spoke of the need and deliverance of nonviolence. They were Jesus of Nazareth, Mahadmas Gandhi, Thomas Merton, AJ Muste, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton. They live this very day in our hearts as our living spirits toward the reality of truth and its goals toward peace and justice.


We honor them as symbols in our lives, having thousands of Churches and Synagogues throughout America revering the Lord Jesus of Nazareth who did acts of kindness while living within the despairing  confines of violence in the Middle East. We honor Mahadmas Gandhi as a spiritual Guardian who won the independence of India from Britain by stopping the Opium Trade that caused havoc throughout the worlds societies. Through his acts of nonviolence and resistance to the debacles of the Wests War machines, he was able to win freedom for the people.


Thomas Merton a Benedictine Trappist Monk brought Americans to a spiritual awareness of themselves in seeking the value to nonviolence and bringing it toward our journey for our salvation to our Lords request in following him and his teachings.


AJ Muste said, "the only way to peace is peace", as he worked diligently protesting the Vietnam War, and having a role in ending the War after his visit in speaking to Ho Chi Minh in N. Vietnam.


Rev. Jeremiah Wright a skillful Theologian and speaker for truth as come at a time in our lives when God is at the doorstep to his coming by revealing the truths of America's past abominations. We have Rev. Jesse Jackson who stood along side Rev. King and supported the efforts of his dream. Rev. AL Sharpton is a man who stands up for the people who are discriminated against and disenfranchised from a legal system that protects criminals who murder innocent men as they lie about being enforcers or protectors of Justice in America.


And we have made Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. a National Symbol of our American Dream; giving a day of remembrance as a National Holiday because of his unyielding acts and stand of courage for Americas poor and disenfranchised while taking the cause and following his hero’s Jesus and Mahadmas toward the ideals of nonviolence and its deliverance from the oppression of military and nuclear ambitions. He is the only leader who stood and still stands for a nonviolent America....making him truly our Nations only beloved and Original Founding Father.


Yet we have leaders today who are not symbols of Americanism or symbols of nonviolent religions. These men disregard Rev. King who has gone before us; in which he was murdered because of his courage and uncowardly stand against violence. There is no Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon, or GW Bush Honorary Day, and so who are they to be proclaiming and declaring War on Gods people? They go to the same churches and lived during the same time Martin Luther King lived along with Thomas Merton while they gave life to the great sacrifice, yet they to this day continue to beat the war drums, and continue the murdering and discrimination for the sake of power and wealth and disregard of our brothers and sisters who live on this earth. Why would they do this?


It is because of hatred and their unwillingness to surrender their power to Gods benevolence in America, by making Americans believe their lies of authority. They truly are racist and bigots when acts they commit go against the teachings of individual rights, go against the teachings of the 10 commandments, go against the teachings of nonviolence and Jesus. Let’s be clear that in my earnest Declaration, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. is one of the Original Founders of America.


Who stands up for the Innocent Iraqi families killed and gunned down by American bombs, tanks, and bullets? Where is Obama who should be supporting the innocent people. He is over there with the pack who are doing the killing, voicing his discontent with his Rev. Jermiah Wright, and actually asking the American people to do more killing on behalf of his God the Republican/Democratic Party.


Americans will not admit this; but I will and it is true, because Rev. King stood and gave his life for nonviolence in seeking to end discrimination to the people. He is the only leader of our time who stood for positive change, and took the example of Jesus and Mahadmas as his guiding light. He gave his life for this, unlike Thomas Merton who also contributed to the end of racism and the Vietnam war. But Merton did not die at the hands of an assassin. God Bless both men who took upon the cause of nonviolence and took it more serious than all the atomic nuclear arsenals stockpiles in the the world. Some hate to think George Washington is not one of the founding fathers? How could he not be? He is not because he represented violence, and he was a slave owner. http://www.mountvernon.org/learn/meet_george/index.cfm/ss/101


Yet we celebrate Washington and Lincoln’s birthday as a National Obligation in honor to their unearned distinction. We honor a slave owner? We honor a man of violence? Let’s look at Lincoln. Lincoln did not fight the Civil War to end Slavery. The Union was falling apart because of the disagreement of Southern States wanting to share tax revenues with the Northern States. The South was getting richer because of the trade coming from China; ships would dock in the South first. With the South and its free laborers the American Negro Slaves, the South was getting richer and richer, without an outlay of expenses. Americans were trading Opium for goods in China, instead of using their money, and now they wanted to secede from the Union.


Fact: Lincoln's North invaded the south to regain lost federal tax revenue by keeping the Union intact by force of arms. In his First Inaugural Lincoln promised to invade any state that failed to collect "the duties and imposts," and he kept his promise. On April 19, 1861, the reason Lincoln gave for his naval blockade of the Southern ports was that "the collection of the revenue cannot be effectually executed" in the states that had seceded.


Myth: Lincoln invaded the South to free the slaves. Ending slavery and racial injustice is not why the North invaded. As Lincoln wrote to Horace Greeley on Aug. 22, 1862 "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it" also Lincoln did not champion equality and natural rights. His words and, more important, his actions, repudiate this myth. "I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races," he announced in his Aug. 21, 1858, debate with Stephen Douglas. "I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position." And, "Free them [slaves] and make them politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this. We cannot, then, make them equals." In Springfield, Ill., on July 17, 1858, Lincoln said, "What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black races." On Sept. 18, 1858, in Charleston, Ill., he said: "I will to the very last stand by the law of this state, which forbids the marrying of white people with Negroes." http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo44.html


Lincoln in today’s world would be a racist criminal and would have been impeached, yet we make a Statue of him and honor him in our Great Capitol Washington D.C. as being a symbol of our cause to Freedom. It is an outlandish lie, and the men who really need to be sitting there should be our Mount Rushmore in Washington D.C. with the Great Rev. King, Jesus, Mahatma, and Thomas Merton as our Leaders and truly Original Founders of America. As we toppled the statues of Saddam in Iraq we still have not cleansed our own house in America. I think real freedom would seek its just beginning by toppling the sadistic untrue virtues of Abe Lincoln. How deep and perverse racism and violence goes in America, and even our Black Youth and all youths of cultural understanding are made to believe the lies. I pity Barack Obama for his misled beliefs and his poor education on the topic, to include the present lying murderous administration that says it is serving American interest. Clearly they are not.


How outlandish we are in not doing more to honor Dr. King, and Jesus and Mahadmas and Thomas with Schools and Universities teaching youth about supporting real America and equal rights, by practicing nonviolence. How appalling we do not recognize Dr. King as our messenger of hope and as our true founding established father of America. Oh no.. violent white America did not find or establish America; it was Black and white nonviolent America who founded and established America, from their sweat in defeating slavery, to their continued struggle against discrimination of blacks through the Civil Rights era, to even today.


And the struggle continues to endure from its beckoning and preaching from the rooftops in its eloquence and beauty to that glorious discovery of being free at last, being free at last. Our Black Prison populations are a result of the enduring failure in not recognizing the truth of this great man Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. amd the auspices of the reality of nonviolent involvement.


President Bush has said: “I did contemplate a larger strategy as to how to deal with al Qaeda. We were shooting Cruise missiles, and with little effect. And I said, if we're going to go after al Qaeda, let's have a comprehensive strategy as to how to deal with it, with that entity. Here he admits the indiscriminate killing of innocent families.


He also says: “I don't plan on losing my job. I plan on telling the American people that I've got a plan to win the war on terror. And I believe they'll stay with me. They understand the stakes. Look, nobody likes to see dead people on their television screens -- I don't. It's a tough time for the American people to see that. It's gut-wrenching. One of my hardest parts of my job is to console the family members who have lost their life. It is a -- it is -- it's a chance to hug and weep and to console and to remind the loved ones that the sacrifice of their loved one was done in the name of security for America and freedom for the world. And one of the things that's very important, Judy, as far as I'm concerned, is to never allow our youngsters to die in vain. And I made that pledge to their parents. Withdrawing from the battlefield of Iraq would be just that. And it's not going to happen under my watch.”


His statement in saying he will not allow our youngsters to die in vain, really means that "he will allow Martin Luther King Jr. and his ideals along with Jesus and Mahadmas, and Thomas Meton to die in vain instead." Essentially Bush can not come to grip with knowing his leadership of lies to go to war caused those youngsters to die. And if he took upon the legacy values of Martin Luther King Jr. along with Jesus and Mahadmas Gandhi, and Merton; those youngsters would probably be still be alive today.


If Bush took upon the cross and followed these great men who spoke of nonviolence in the face of violence; our world would change for peace, instead of more terror and war. Essentially our young black men who join the army fail to see the truths to their lives given in the name of violence. Is this fair to them? Our young black men who also have become members to the governing body in the United States having to be one Black Senator Barack Obama fails to see the truths of Rev. King and his message, due to the forces of propaganda and the deliberate attempt to subvert the truth.


President Bush firmly believes Rev. King died in vain. He firmly believes Jesus and Mahadmas Gandhi, and Thomas Merton our American consciousness died in vain as well. If God died in vain, what does that tell us about our present leadership and direction our country has succumbed to? Are we not a Christian nation? Do we not believe that giving our life toward nonviolence really is the answer because God said it was so? I would rather die for peace without a gun in my hand as they did, instead of dying with a gun in my hand full of anger, rage, fear, and discrimination toward someone I never met before. Who is the hero? Clearly those who support nonviolence are the hero’s. The Lord will gladly tear the loaded gun from the cold dying hands of Charleston Heston the fake Moses of our time.


So why does our President go on talking about how our spiritual leaders have died in vain? In fact President Bush has no clue to American values, and American culture. America is not; I repeat is not a GUN. Make my day Clint Eastwood, because I have no need for a 44 magnum in the quorum of nonviolence. The following are excerpts of speeches given by Rev. King who I honor greatly and have accepted his mission here on earth. I hope to be a real follower to bestow that real promise to us all, originally spoken by himself, Gandhi, Merton  and Jesus.


It is my hope more join the ranks of Jesus, Mahadmas, Merton and Martin. I hope more schools and Universities come to represent our true father of America, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. by teaching the values to nonviolence, and seeking the resolution of problems without the need of a gun. Only then can we stop terror in the World and bring true civil rights to not only Americans but to people throughout the world. Rev. King and our people who believe in nonviolence will live eternally and if we wish to live as well, please come follow us.


Rev. King said:


"The war in Vietnam is but a symptom of a far deeper malady within the American spirit, and if we ignore this sobering reality we will find ourselves organizing clergy and laymen-concerned committees for the next generation. They will be concerned about Guatemala and Peru. They will be concerned about Thailand and Cambodia. They will be concerned about Mozambique and South Africa. We will be marching for these and a dozen other names and attending rallies without end unless there is a significant and profound change in American life and policy. .... "I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a 'thing-oriented' society to a 'person-oriented' society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism and militarism are incapable of being conquered. .... "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death. (MLK, April 4, 1967)


"Somehow this madness must cease," he said. "We must stop now. I speak as a child of God and brother to the suffering poor of Vietnam. I speak for those whose land is being laid waste, whose homes are being destroyed, whose culture is being subverted. I speak for the poor in America who are paying the double price of smashed hopes at home and death and corruption in Vietnam. "I speak as a citizen of the world, for the world as it stands aghast at the path we have taken. I speak as an American to the leaders of my own nation. The great initiative in this war is ours. The initiative to stop it must be ours."


Rev. KING: It is axiomatic in social life that frustrations lead to two kinds of reactions. One is the development of a wholesome social organization to resist with effective, firm measures any efforts to impede progress. The other is a confused, anger-motivated drive to strike back violently, to retaliate for wrongful suffering. The current calls for violence have their roots in this latter tendency. Here one must be clear that there are three different views on the subject of violence. One is the approach of pure nonviolence, which cannot readily or easily attract large masses, for it requires extraordinary discipline and courage.


The second is violence exercised in self-defense, which all societies, from the most primitive to the most cultured and civilized, accept as moral and legal. The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi, who sanctioned it for those unable to master pure nonviolence.


The third is the advocacy of violence as a tool of advancement, organized as in warfare, deliberately and consciously. There are incalculable perils in this approach. The greatest danger is that it will fail to attract Negroes to a real collective struggle. There are meaningful alternatives to violence. In the history of the movement for racial advancement, many creative forms have been developed—the mass boycott, sit-down protests and strikes, sit-ins, refusal to pay fines and bail for unjust arrests, mass marches, mass meetings, prayer pilgrimages, etc. There is more power in socially organized masses on the march than there is in guns in the hands of a few desperate men. Our enemies would prefer to deal with a small armed group rather than with a huge, unarmed but resolute mass of people. However, it is necessary that the mass-action method be persistent and unyielding.


All history teaches us that like a turbulent ocean beating great cliffs into fragments of rock, the determined movement of people incessantly demanding their rights always disintegrates the old order. Our powerful weapons are the voices, the feet, and the bodies of dedicated, united people, moving without rest toward a just goal. Greater tyrants than Southern segregationists have been subdued and defeated by this form of struggle. It would be tragic if we spurn it because we have failed to perceive its dynamic strength and power. I am reluctant to inject a personal defense against charges that I am inconsistent in my struggle against war and too weak-kneed to protest nuclear war. Merely to set the record straight, may I state that repeatedly, in public addresses and in my writings, I have unequivocally declared my hatred for this most colossal of all evils and I have condemned any organizer of war, regardless of his rank or nationality。  


"Sermon at Atlanta's Ebenezer Baptist Church"


Rev. KING: If you have never found something so dear and so precious to you that you will die for it, and then you aren't fit to live. You may be thirty-eight years old, as I happen to be, and one day some great principle, some great opportunity stands before you and calls upon you to stand up for some great issue, some great cause. And you refused to do it because you want to live longer. You're afraid that you will lose your job, or you are afraid that you will be criticized or that you will lose your popularity, or you're afraid that somebody will stab you or shoot at you or bomb your house. So you refuse to take the stand. Well, you may go on and live until you are ninety, but you are just as dead at thirty-eight as you would be at ninety. And the cessation of breathing in your life is but the belated announced of an earlier death of the spirit. You died when you refused to stand up for right. AUDIENCE RESPONSE you died when you refused to stand up for truth. KING You died when you refused to stand up for justice. Don't ever think that you're by yourself. Go on to jail if necessary, AUDIENCE RESPONSE but you never go alone. KING Take a stand AUDIENCE RESPONSE for that which is right. KING and the world may misunderstand you, and criticize you. But you never go alone, for somewhere I read that one with God is a majority. http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/about_king/warandpeace/wpdramaticreading.htm


 God Bless Rev. King and Rev. Wright. Let’s hope more black Americans come to understand the truth to America. Let us hope more Whites and more races in America come to see this truth is self evident. Let us establish The International Institute of Nonviolence learning that nonviolence, is our destiny and  honor our most revered people who walked this earth with mankind. In affect let us hope Politicians are no longer able to get away with crimes in killing the innocent when impeachment finally reaches its Constitutional high point. Let us hope whites have a willingness to learn from Black America, because after all, Black America is really who made you. Who needs affirmative action? We whites do; in order to learn in Reverend Martin Luther King’s and his supporting Saints at The International Institute of Nonviolence. http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/announcement-open-international-institute-nonviolence-est-lord-jesus-nazareth-and-his-honest-people


 

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PEP

A couple of suggestions here. This is really an editorial, or an "opinion piece," so it would be better to label it as such in the headline and the tags.

Also, in direct quotes in the picture, as well as assertions in your headline and elsewhere, you say: "President Bush firmly believes Rev. King died in vain. He firmly
believes Jesus and Mahatma Gandhi, and Thomas Merton our American
consciousness died in vain as well."

But nowhere in your quotes do you have a citation or link to Bush saying that. If you believe that Bush's actions *mean* that Jesus died in vain, then you need to make it clear that this is your belief, and not a direct statement from Bush.  

An example: you said "We must rapidly begin the shift from a 'thing-oriented' society to a
'person-oriented' society. When machines and computers, profit motives
and property rights are considered more important than people, the
giant triplets of racism, materialism and militarism are incapable of
being conquered. .... "

If I then write "Michelle Obama firmly believes that Rev. King, and Jesus died in vain," then I have been unfair to Mrs. Obama because I don't have a quote from her. What I *do* have is my own supposition and interpretation: Michelle Obama, whose six-figure salary recently doubled and who lives in a mansion, continually portrays personal values that in essence, say that Rev. King and Jesus died in vain.

I could write: "Barack Obama firmly believes that Rev. King died in vain and that racism is essential to modern life." Most unfair. However, if I say that Obama's actions in supporting Rev. Wright and choosing him as a mentor signal that Obama believes that racism conquers all, but it is black racism that is acceptable, then I am stating an opinion rather than making up a quote from Obama.

 Now, more than ever, I think that we need to be very very clear in our dialogue, especially on contentious issues.  And no, I don't believe that either of the Obamas believe that Rev. King or Jesus died in vain, and I offer them more respect than to assert that they do believe that, let alone put it in quotes!

 Someday maybe you and I will have a chance to dialogue on Merton.

 

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djermano

When President Bush has choices like all free Americans; what he says reflects his choice over the other. When he says he supports the War apparatus, he also says he rejects nonviolence. I fail to see the difference in connotation or meaning.

In concern to your question about:

An example: you said "We must rapidly begin the shift from a 'thing-oriented' society to a
'person-oriented' society. When machines and computers, profit motives
and property rights are considered more important than people, the
giant triplets of racism, materialism and militarism are incapable of
being conquered. .... "

This is not said by me....but is a direct quote by Thomas Merton himself.

In concern to your Obama remarks, clearly Senator Obama does not support his spiritual directors comments in concern to America's past examples of poor stewardship. I also came out in support to Rev. Wrights assertions, and think Senator Obama has a lot to learn about the essence of nonviolence, as most Americans are also learning.

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politisite

Hey djermano I found some things that didn't pass my sniff test. Could it be... fishy??? You might want to fix some stuff up or else it's headed to the bottom of our bird cage. Want me to get particular? OK, I got a whiff that this story may not actually be true. That image you added: did you really take it yourself? This story may be a hoax, for all I know -- or maybe you think you're auditioning for a job at The Onion Or maybe you're gunning for our Catch of the Day award???

Here is the text I have an issue with, "Rev. Martin Luther King Died in Vain” says Bush  when you put something in quotes in means Bush said those exact words.  I have fact checked and have found no where other then your mutiple posting on the net that Bush said these words.  Please give me a citation so I can fact check this statement. 

If you can give me a referance when Bush made this statement, I will be happy to remove the flag with my appologies

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politisite

djermano, Thank you for making the change.  Let me encourage you to continue to write your articles.  We all need to hear your thoughts on non-violence.

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djermano

No Fishy Polisite: When Bush says something it does have a real meaning.  And I was very clear in what I wrote. Quotation marks do not have to mean direct quotes but can also reflect real meaning. If I put in quotations "The Sun is not shining" how is that different than saying " It is a real cloudy day" as an example.  I am not looking for any notoriety on this Polisite, or anything for that matter. I am merely stating a truth here. This is what I said in the article, having quoted Mr. Bush line per line, then giving my view of his quote.  As far as the image, it is an image for public use found on the internet. I will remove the quotation marks for the sake of arguing, but to me Bush still implies the same message as if he really said it. This is your site not mine, so I will make the revision. If it was my site, I would make no change.

President Bush has said: “I did contemplate a larger strategy as to how to deal with al Qaeda. We were shooting Cruise missiles, and with little effect. And I said, if we're going to go after al Qaeda, let's have a comprehensive strategy as to how to deal with it, with that entity. Here he admits the indiscriminate killing of innocent families.

He also says: “I don't plan on losing my job. I plan on telling the American people that I've got a plan to win the war on terror. And I believe they'll stay with me. They understand the stakes. Look, nobody likes to see dead people on their television screens -- I don't. It's a tough time for the American people to see that. It's gut-wrenching. One of my hardest parts of my job is to console the family members who have lost their life. It is a -- it is -- it's a chance to hug and weep and to console and to remind the loved ones that the sacrifice of their loved one was done in the name of security for America and freedom for the world. And one of the things that's very important, Judy, as far as I'm concerned, is to never allow our youngsters to die in vain. And I made that pledge to their parents. Withdrawing from the battlefield of Iraq would be just that. And it's not going to happen under my watch.”

His statement in saying he will not allow our youngsters to die in vain, really means that he will allow Martin Luther King Jr. and his ideals along with Jesus and Mahatma, and Thomas Meton to die in vain instead. Essentially Bush can not come to grip with knowing his leadership of lies to go to war caused those youngsters to die. And if he took upon the legacy values of Martin Luther King Jr. along with Jesus and Mahatma Gandhi, and Merton; those youngsters would probably be still be alive today.

You know Polisite we don't agree on stuff and I sure don't want to get in a battle with anyone here..All I know is that because I am a writer and I tell stuff straight, people have to come out and knock me down for whatever nit-picking thing they can get their hands onto.....without throughly reading the article or gaining the greater meaning from it.  I don't want notoriety, nor to have my work publicized. I am merely using the forum to express my views of what is news to me in my own way. If people read then let them decide its value, or information content. I have seen a lot of lying articles by the mainstream media and nobody stops their tactics....case in point the lie to go to war, and the killing of thousands of innocent families. Who is the voice against that? Who sticks up for the innocent people killed? And no it is not part of the business to war! 

Now if that is not bottom of the birdcage news to you and my article is, there is something wrong.  I disagree with the war, along with the Presidents misguided quote in saying that US soldiers will not die in vain.  I know he really believes Martin Luther King, and even the Lord himself died in Vain instead. And sadly that you are misguided as well.

 

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djermano

What really burns me Polisite is a Politician can committ crimes and get away with murder, but a writer who expresses dissatisfaction with him to prove he is wrong goes under more third degree wranglings and threats by editors than the factual crimes committed by Bush. How is that?  What plausible reason is there for you to stick up for this criminal? Am I a criminal because I support Nonviolence? I think people are so badly swatted in the head, that people have begun to believe murder is OK, as long as you are a Republican and you support Bush. Indeed these days and times are judgments on us all in recognizing what is right vs. wrong. And I am certainly going to be doing the right thing here, your fishy remark or not!

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politisite

Please do not conclude that pointing out the use of  direct quotations means that I am defending George Bush or his Policies.  I will remove the Fishy symbol.

I am not trying to upset you.  I do agree that public servants should be viewed with a fine toothed comb.  Freedom of the Press is very important component of our Republic.  One of the powers of Citizen Journalism is that we have editorial control and do not have a corporate entity telling us what we can and cannot write about.  At the same time CJ will peer review articles as in research.  Please don't feel discouraged.  In fact feel encouraged to continue your writings as it is important to have many side to the same storys.  You asked, who will combat the MSM?  You do, with your article here that was read by more than a thousand people.

Thank You

Al

 

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djermano

Thank You for de-fishing but;

Our mild exchange shows the dynamics of MSMedia, in which the owner of the News Organizations declare what is printed vs. what is not. Here you told me how I should use quotation marks, when I have my own ideas on how they can be used. And since you don't like how I use my definition, I had to conform to your idea, since you own the site. MSM is captivated in the same way I think, by those people who own the MSM to keep the truth and other free ideas from emerging. I can not say I feel happy about not being fished labeled , since I was prevented in using my own terms to language use. There is no freedom of the press, because those who pay the electric bills and license rights dictate their rules...instead of allowing real freedom of writing to emerge. Freedom of Speech is only guaranteed when everyone has their own media station along with their own nuclear warhead to prevent the inevitable is how I read it in todays world. More the reason to forget about MSM and support The International Institute of Nonviolence.

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politisite

Let me make it clear, I am an unpaid guest editor.  I do not own NowPublic.  The guys with the Red Crowns, they are the Staff.  I am kind of a guide, here to help.  I did not ask you to remove one word of your story.  It was a format issue based on standard journalist practices.  My goal is to be a better writer. I welcome comments on my writing. 

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djermano

I see Politisite..did you get The American Photo Album? Thank you for your advice.

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