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Stacey Barker Murder Trial Now Set To Begin Late September
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by katfish | July 5, 2010 at 11:34 am
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In a hearing held at the Lancaster courthouse on June 28 Superior Court Judge Hayden Zackey has again changed the date for the murder trial of Stacey Barker to now start on Monday, September 20, 2010.
Barker is a 25 year old Lancaster, California woman accused of smothering her 18 month old daughter, Emma Leigh Barker, before dumping her body in tall grass at the side of a freeway on March 18, 2008.
Our friends, Tori, ANurse and Ange have again taken time out of their day to attend the hearing and share the details with us. ~ thanks again ladies ~ Tori said the hearing was late getting underway. For almost an hour it seemed as though Deputy District Attorney Kelly Cromer and Public Defender Roberto Dager were playing cat and mouse, every time DDA Cromer came in the courtroom, PD Dager had just left and so she would leave to do something and he would walk in. LOL! Of course they weren't playing games, there were 3 inmate buses at the courthouse today and they have to search each one every time all the inmates get off so this took a while.
Judge Zackey didn't seem to feel well today, he may have allergies, he's blowing his nose, holding his head and seems in a bit of a mood.....hope he feels better soon, he's a good guy. The attorneys finally settled in and defendant Stacey Barker is brought in. Barker seems subdued again today (Tori used the term lackluster) yet she has her hair up in a braid , it looks like someone helped her with it, it's very neat.
As soon as court is under way, Cromer hands Dager a disc. She says there's a wire tap conversation on the disc ( it isn't clear whose line was tapped) there are also taped phone calls the defendant made and (most interesting IMO) are letters she has exchanged with an inmate Sutton. Judge Zackey asks, "Is that the Erin Sutton who was in my courtroom?" Cromer, Dager and another attorney (unidentified) all respond, " Yes it is your honor." Judge Zackey looks puzzled and maybe a bit shocked when he finds out it was the same guy. (Evidently he didn't make the connection at the last hearing when this was mentioned.)
Our friends actually made the connection at the last hearing, but I didn't include the following in that post because we didn't know his first name so we weren't positive it was the inmate Sutton who had been in Zackey's court before. Judge Zackey wasn't the only one surprised to learn that the inmate Barker has been corresponding with was someone we have talked about before. He has no relationship to this case (before now) but was in court the same day as Stacey back in September 2009. Our friends TD and Anurse nicknamed him "Devil Dude" when they saw him back then, here is how they described him at that time:
Devil dude was a very creepy guy covered in tattoos ( I love tattoos) but they were all over his bald head, on his face all over his hands and arms, he had a very evil look to him, his eyes were seriously creepy...He was brought in to the courtroom and we were all asked to clear the room...He was all shackled up, he had the handcuffs, the chain around his waist, and the bracelets around his ankles...There were I think like 3 or 4 guards in the room....I don’t know what he did, but as we were allowed back in the courtroom, he looked at everyone in the eyes, like he was getting a image of us in his head...He was just creepy, we all had shivers when he looked at us...
It turns out they weren't too far off with the nickname. On his MySpace page , he goes by the name "Vampire".
I want to go on record saying that you can't always judge a book by it's cover and we don't know exactly what this guy did; however, he makes mention on his MS that he was arrested and is facing life in prison because of something he "allegedly" did to a guy he took guitar lessons from, after he found out the guy was a convicted sex offender and this guy had been trying to get Vampire to allow him to give Vampire's 12 year old daughter "private lessons". He claims he is falsely accused.....but that's a story for another day.
Update: After further investigation we find that Sutton is in jail for felony robbery with a $2 million bail. Perhaps a third strike felony?The RSO "Vampire" mentions on his MySpace is still living in Lancaster and is listed on the Megan's law website as a child molester.
The bigger question is, how did Stacey Barker meet him and why did she choose this guy for a friend? Our guess is she met him on the bus ride to court, it's 90 miles each way. We know of at least twice that they were in court on the same day. Some think it's a protection thing. She may think other inmates won't mess with her if they are friends. I tend to think they are commiserating with each other because they are both "falsely accused and can relate", who knows??? It seems something from their communications will be used in the trial anyway. We'll see......
Ok, back to the hearing....Judge Zackey says he has spoken with both parties and everything is complete in the discovery process. He learned from Cormer and Dager that both they and some of the witnesses and investigators have commitments near the proposed July 26 trial date, so that date will now be a pre-trial hearing.The trial will be the week of September 24. Monday the 20th will start the trial.(We're not sure if that is when jury selection starts, we'll know more after July 26.)
Zackey was very clear that there will be no more delays. Zackey addressed the lawyers," You both want it to stay in this court right? " They both said, "yes". He said, "Alright then, there will be NO more delays unless I am in a trial, then you both agree to wait until I am finished to start the trial...the only delays will be from ME, agree?" They both said," Yes" and that was it the hearing was over.
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at 16:01 on July 5th, 2010
Kat,
Thank you for the Pic's of Emma's first and Only birthday, she was such a beauty...
Although we celebrate her Birthday different now, she KNOWS we are giving tribute to her short life and praying that someday NO ONE will have to celebrate a childs death at their grave because they were killed by an adult..child abuse has no place in this country, the time given for child murder is stupid something has to be done to show these abusers that it is WRONG and if you hurt a child you will be given a hard sentence not a slap on the wrist.
I am wondering if SB will ever tell the real truth and have some kind of remorse for what she did....
Girls I will get back to you late, Love ya all T
at 19:28 on July 9th, 2010
Tori,
That is a well said comment you made! TY Did you notice I left a lot of your stuff (phrasing , words, etc.) in tact on this entry? I have to change it up a bit, because it is most comfortable for me to write from my understanding of the story....keeps my past and future tenses somewhat in line. :)
I definitely worded that "first and only birthday" wrong, of course I meant alive. Her short life is still celebrated on her birthday thanks to people who take the time to visit her grave with gifts (we have seen that is many including you and other friends here) or even those who just send up a prayer from afar (like me :)).
at 05:49 on July 7th, 2010
Excellent job gals! I realized as soon as I saw that court date that that we were going to be seeing another anniversary before making it to trial ~ Lil 'Angel would have been 3 years old on 9-2. Does sb ever think about that? Does she ever wonder what their lives would have been like if she hadn't stolen her baby's future? I'll bet her family thinks about it a lot.
at 09:58 on August 5th, 2010
Yes. We think of Emma every day. She is my great niece and Stacey is my niece. You people have no respect for our family. You think all of this matters or helps! Stop for a moment and think of how you would be feeling if it were you? We love them both and our hearts broken at the loss we have had, but all you can do is shovel judgment. Well it doesn't bring Emma back or the truth forward. The DA has nothing on Stacey, that's why they offered a convicted person like Aaron to try and get evidence and it turns up nill! But he gets 18 years off of his sentence??? There's justice at work. You are only hurting us more...
at 00:35 on August 24th, 2010
Auntie,
You must be the one that Cromer dropped her donut near your purse that one day right?
If DDA had nil on SB she would not be in Jail. you were not at the prelim to hear all the testimony of Det. Nava right?
I think you have it wrong, If SB had not made such a BIG deal out of this, no one would be interested in the why's or Justice. she brought the publicity and shame on herself and her family, we didn't.
Seems like you are just mad seeing all the things in print that you think should be hidden. bringing the truth foreward? which version of the so called truth do you want to bring foreward, 1st, 2nd, 3rd or the confession? since no one, not even you, know what the real truth is, I guess we will have to wait to see if SB can stick to one story during trial.
Read a few posts down and you will see the reason for "shovel judgement", you lost a Great niece and you want to salvage whats left of your niece I can respect that, we show no disrespect to your family in court, it's the other way around!
You asked what if it was you? well as I have said many times here, If it was me, I would not attend court and have nothing to do with that person again EVER...what anyone said about them would be fair game, I would not care what was said as I wouldn't read anything concerning them, family or not! you are welcomed to your opinions, I do not take that from you either.
If any of the blogs hurt or offend you, why put yourself through the pain of reading them? I am not saying that you don't have a right to read them but if you don't want to see anything bad said you can always opt not to read them.
No, nothing will bring back that Innocent child and that is so sad but justice will show people that her life had meaning also and it's wrong to hurt or kill your child!
Are you Interested in Caylee Anthony, Haliegh Cummings or any other cases and want to know the truth or outcome? do you read the newspaper, watch the news? if so then you are also curious about the things going on around you as we are.... don't fault us for caring or wanting to know the truth about what happened to Emma and seeing justice at work.
If Sue is your sister and you care as much about her as you do about SB you should talk to some other family members and friends and ask that they stop calling her nasty names outside the courtroom. I sense a division within the Family.
Again I am sorry for your loss, but more sorry for the Grandparents of Emma as the Grandfather said on the news...his ray of sunshine! SB left Them with a hole that can never be filled again!
at 21:53 on August 6th, 2010
Good, think of Emma every day. Think of how she was taken so young. Family should stick together, no matter what, but regardless of how you feel about the other people in this world who hold Emma in there heart remember that this is about Emma and not about how you feel disrespected. You should feel disrespected by the person who threw Emma away on the side of the road. Did that person respect your feelings? We respect the fact that the family of Emma is hurting, and will always hurt. Most of us feel nothing but sympathy for the pain this has caused you. However, we have read the testimony, we have read how your neice covered her babies mouth until she stopped moving, we have read how she lied and made up a story about being attacked, and we have read how she threw away the body of her child on the side of the road. It is unexcusable.
We are following this story because Emma has touched our hearts, she has touched the hearts of those who have lost children, and she has touched the hearts of those of us who cannot have children - who would have given anything to protect Emma if given the opportunity. Judgement won't bring Emma back - Stacey took that from you, she is the one who disrespected her family and put her "needs" before everyone else's. You go ahead and stand by Stacey, because she is your family, and you mourn the loss of a beautiful child. We will hold Emma in our hearts regardless of what the family "thinks" of us. We are, and always will be here ONLY for Emma. Your feelings about us are irrelevant.
Our intent is not to hurt you, our intent is to make sure there is justice for Emma. We are not here to "help" you, we are not here to get your blessing. Our respect and the love in our hearts is for Emma, not you. I won't apologize if this offends you - I don't care. I would like you to know that we are only here because Emma's story has touched our hearts and if that's not enough for you, to know we are only here because of Emma, than too bad. Post all you want, protest, call us names, cry disrespect. It doesn't matter, we won't stop caring about Emma. Someone should have protected Emma when she was alive, now we can only protect her memory.
at 09:16 on August 7th, 2010
Hey BBB,
Glad to see you back.... How is the new house?
Thank you for being so thoughtful. I am sure this is what many have in mind but didn't quite know how to express it.
Yes BBB, we are here for Emma only, the embarrassment that her family is suffering now is a result of SB'S selfish actions, not ours. I was not thinking about that when I wrote the last few blogs.
How can us discussing what is going on here and make a judgment of what we have heard with our own ears hurt people more then the act of Murder/accident causing death?
I am sure that the PD is going for a lesser charge and will bring out all the heavy guns to say SB was under stress, had PPSS, made a false confession, Depressed or the ME didn't do his Job the right way, although none of the above means Innocence, it just means that there was a reason for the child being dead and it was her state of mind or neglect that caused it.
Like Kat said, if you are Innocent that means you are truly Innocent and did not do anything wrong to cause the death, Innocence is not what the facts show here, guilt is what shows here just not what level of guilt.
Another thing, how can her carefree actions and lack of remorse in COURT not hurt the family? she has no concept of how it makes her look when she comes into court and is more worried about mouthing "I love you" to people and smiling for her audience, Instead of paying attention to what is being said and at times making smart remarks, like "Well, I'm not going anywhere" when asked a question by Judge Z, that right there shows she has no respect for the Court or the situation, that is what should embarrass the family!
Anyway BBB hope all is going well. ttys T
at 05:39 on August 8th, 2010
Hi Tori! And everyone else. The new house is great. Still unpacking and organizing though. It really is hard to believe how much "stuff" we accumulate in our lives.
I have been keeping up with reading the information and every once in awhile the kids let me use the computer uninterupted so that I can post something. All of you are doing a wonderful job of staying on top of this.
SB's lack of remorse in court should really be a red flag to her family. Regardless of whether it was an accident or not, she now has the attention Emma took from her. In my mind, she is living up the "woe is me" and is loving all the attention she is now getting. I understand her family standing by her, I just don't understand them trying to make it look like SB is the victim. By her own testimony she smothered her child and then threw her away. I realize I can't tell the family how to act in this situation but SB is the one who put them here and she is the one who has disrespected the family. I know if I was in this situation, god forbid, that I would keep my head down. Be supportive but don't try to persuade people who have read the evidence, have been to the hearings, have seen for themselves the selfishness of SB, that she is in any way a victim. The only true victim is Emma.
at 09:47 on August 9th, 2010
I'm sorry you feel we have disrespected your family and if this happened in my family - I too would be crushed and devastated beyond words - if I worded the post above your comment poorly, for that I apologize to you and any other member of your family.
My question was aimed at your niece - does she care what she has done to you and her family? She sure doesn't act like it - between whispered "I love you's" and walking into court made up like she was on a date. She is the one you should be talking to about respect. Not those of us who shake our head in disgust over her behavior.
I believe we have tried to be as respectful of your family as possible under these circumstances - and have refrained from uttering words meant to harm them - because we feel such pain over your loss. It is sadly my opinion that Emma's mother doesn't share that pain. BBB, T, KF (and those who can no longer post here) thank you all for caring enough about Emma to be here for her.
It is not judgement we seek - that is for the courts. All we are looking for is JUSTICE FOR EMMA!
at 16:29 on July 7th, 2010
Thanks Kat,
I know you do the story your own way and as always it turns out GREAT! that is why I have no objection to you using the Information any way you like.
OKAY LC, that last post made me act like a wuss again!!!*TEARS* I had never thought about that 3 years old wow, I have a Grandson that will turn 3 on Sept 19th, He is so cute he is asking "what's that" about everything...he is talking in sentences, loves playing with his cars (he has to have a hotwheel everytime we go to the store), he has his moods but gets over them quick...so many things that 3 year olds do, Emma will never get the chance to do and her family will never experiance the joy of seeing the milestones of a 3 year old.
I also wonder if Emma's Birthday will have any kind of Impact on SB, either on the day of or at trial...
You know I hear so many ladies talk of how an abortion has ruined their life, how they are depressed and guilty about doing it, I wonder if people that kill living children have the same type of feelings?
I feel so bad for the family I just want to cry. (LC already made me do that once today) lol....
You girls are the bestest...I luv ya all. {{{hugs}}} T
at 16:39 on July 11th, 2010
This just continues to break my heart. Your little grand son is the same age as Emma would have been. Forget the where, forget the what, forget the why - how could she? How could she put her hand over her baby's face???
I remember reading years ago about GOD having a special place in heaven for mothers - thinking of my mom and her life and all she did for us; I believed it. Then when my ex bailed after our divorce - I remember people asking how do you do it? I couldn't answer that because I wasn't doing anything special - I'm a mom - my kids needed food on the table and shoes on their feet. That's what moms (and people who help out and support moms) do.
But this new generation of moms, I do not get - there is no answer to why? that we would comprehend - a new boyfriend? to party? a job? school? huh??
HOW? How could she steal her baby's life? I now hope there is an equally special place in Hades.
at 00:22 on July 16th, 2010
Kat, I must say I am intrigued about this article. I graduated with SB from high school and a friend of mine and SBs, back at the time, informed of what and when this happened. I didn't quiet believe it until I ran across this article and a few previous ones. Since I departed Lancaster I have moved on with my life and have ended up in a PD elsewhere and hearing about this just shocked me. I know little of the details, since I do not use the powers I have recklessly, but your article has given me many details at least many more then I had before. I look forward to updates on this case come later this year. I wish Emma and her family the best wishes and my prayers go out to them all.Sincerely, An Anonymous Gentlemen
at 11:59 on July 16th, 2010
AnonymousPD,
I'm glad you found the article informative. If you click on my katfish on the upper right it will take you to my channel, from there you will find many of my previous reports on this case. The preliminary hearing post is most informative. Thanks goes to Tori and some other commenters here who are attending the hearings. I would LOVE to attend, but I'm 1000's of miles away.
To see all of my coverage of this case go to my blog. On the right of the page is a labels section, click on Stacey or Emma Barker and all of the entries will come up concerning this case from newest to oldest....there may be several pages of entries.
http://katfishponders.blogspot.com/
at 21:12 on July 16th, 2010
Good evening ladies. How are we?
Wow! Three years old already. Just breaks my heart. My baby is about eight months younger than Emma. And it's kind of funny because he has the same big brown eyes and brown hair, and shy, sweet smile as she did. In fact, when he was eighteen months old, their similarities kind of tripped me out. I used to think that must be why Emma's story bothered me so much, but I think there is something far more to it than that. He is very advanced for two years old, thanks in large parts to his brother that is seventeen months older than him. He is also speaking in sentences, and loves to recite his ABC's, and all of these other adorable little things that toddlers do. And sometimes I look at him, even more so than my other kids, and I think of Emma. And I ask myself the same question that LC brought up: Why? How? How can you do it? Where is the integrity and the remorse? How do you leave your own baby in some tall grass somewhere and just drive away? I mean, I sit here in my room and get up constantly to check on my kids who are just in the next room because I worry about them. Even if (god forbid) my child were deceased, I couldn't just leave them somewhere, I would still do nothing but worry about the things that could possibly happen to them. There's just no way. I don't even know that I could get as far as to sit in my car with my baby laying in the grass. I just don't understand. I just don't get it. And sometimes it literally tears at my brain, and it's consuming. There are few things in this world that shock me, but I will never get over some of the things that some people are capable of, and actually try to justify. How do you justify the death of an absolutely gorgeous eighteen month old little girl. It pisses me off so bad. I am so sorry for every word I have ever said to defend Stacey, and for the fact that I was stupid enough to buy the BS. I'm sorry for the Barkers who's lives are irreparable thanks to a spoiled, selfish little girl who I have no doubt they raised with all of the love they had to offer only for her to stab them in the back. But most of all, I am sorry Emma. I am so so sorry. I wish God had given you to me instead.
Ok, enough of my little late night rant. Sorry guys, I'm tired and delirious, and Emma has been on my mind a lot lately, and I needed to get that off of my chest.
at 09:23 on July 17th, 2010
7xMommy- oxoxoxox somethings are unexplainable. Emma would have turned 3 on September 2. Give those babies a big hug for me.
I was down in Tampa caring for my then 14 mth and and 2 and a half year old nieces when Caylee Anthony's body was found, I just cried and hugged them. They liked the hugging but I know they wondered what was up. I "knew" before that Caylee was dead, but still held out some hope for her whacky grandparents to be right.
at 01:33 on July 18th, 2010
A 7xMommy Oh sweetie, I don't even know what to say... (When does that happen?) Please don't ever apologize for seeing the good in people! That is part of what makes you who you are! My son does the same and I can't tell you how much that part of him truly touches my heart.
Kat my youngest dd was in O Town the week Caylee was reported missing. Seeing the sights and hanging with a friend. I was freaked that she may have seen the biotch at Universal...
The egg donor in TX who had a lil 4 yr old, red headed angel named Emma was found guilty this week of failure to protect her daughter. The jury picked the lesser of 2 convictions - had they decided this gifted nurse had known the injuries her POS bf inflicted on her baby were life threatening she could have gotten life!
"An autopsy showed she had 80 contusions, a severe head laceration, scalp hemorrhaging, a skull fracture, internal bleeding and a severe tear and hemorrhaging to the vagina". The COD was internal bleeding caused by blunt force trauma to the abdomen."
What did the state miss that would have showed AY was aware of the severity of these injuries? . (The superglue would have been all I needed to know) This gifted nurse suddenly became a plastic surgeon. Who wouldn't take their bleeding child to the ER? Someone who had something to hide. POS momster glued the scalp wound!! Then bleached the BRoom before leaving to take her baby to the ER!
There were 2 injuries due to falls that day the first while mom was out buying donuts! but somehow she didn't call 911 til 730PM about a block from her house!!!
Homicide division Lt. Rolf Nelson said the child had bruises and cuts on her body.He said “Either there were no explanations offered, or the explanations offered for the cause of the injuries were not plausible,”
Benjamin Thompson said his wife, Abigail Young, told him that his daughter Emma, 4, had a “childhood” version of herpes that turned into the sexual disease that adults contract. He also said his wife told him that their daughter could have contracted the disease from a toilet seat. Another explanation was they were contracted at the swimming pool.
Olguin, the CPS spokeswoman, said Emma shook her head, “no” when asked whether anyone had touched her inappropriately(in her mother's presence). Clayton said she confronted the child's mother about her daughter's condition.“She had no idea where it came from,” Clayton recalled, though Young, 33, is a registered nurse.
And Emma shaking her head "no" will surely save that CPS case worker's job.
Villarreal said he was struck by how everyday Young’s demeanor was despite losing a child that night. “To me, she acted calm, like she had lost $5,” Villarreal said.
Young made a great show of telling the group that Coe was good to her and her girls, that he never harmed anyone, Villarreal said. And after investigators left, Young told neighbors they could come over to the house. There was nothing disturbing to see, she told them, because she had cleaned up the bathroom before she left for the hospital.
How did she not get murder 1 or at least murder 2? No she rec'd 20 yrs (up for parole in 5 yrs!!) Coe's trial starts in Sept.
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at 22:06 on July 21st, 2010
Hello everyone,
I hope you are all well. I know I have not done much posting lately, but I am constantly looking at the blogs. At this point (because this is going to trial) I will no longer be able to post at this site or any other site until the trial ends. I will still frequent Now Public to read the current posts. I know those of you who have been posting from the conception of this tragedy will understand why. (Kat, I have a couple legal questions for you, I will send them to you soon privately via Now Public). However, I will continue to follow this case in court, hopefully only in the audience. I hope justice will prevail.
at 12:39 on July 22nd, 2010
Hi nurse!
You can pm me here with your questions or e-mail me. Do you have my e-mail? The last e-mail I had for you doesn't work???? I am glad to try and answer your questions if I know the answers, if not we can do some research. {{{HUGS}}}
at 10:42 on July 22nd, 2010
Hey All,
Nurse, we that know you know why you can not post....
LC
This Baby Vanessa should not be allowed with a violent man, a felon and a loser dad!
I think the courts are sometimes so heartless about matters like this it really pisses me off!
My daughter had a loser boyfriend that got put into Juvie at 17 for 3 years, she got a new boyfriend during the 3 years when she figured out the first one was a loser.....when he got out at 20 she *saw* him again for one last fling I guess because she told him to get lost after that...well being with 2 guys in 2 weeks and ending up preggers she thought it was the first losers kid, so did he...we went to court because he wanted visitation and stuff, his mom is a Herion addicted alcoholic who was right along with him and her 2 and 4 year old daughters when he broke in homes and took stuff, he was arrested for Drugs, stealing Assult Rifles and other things.. the Judge gave him Visitations for weekends with no other then HIS ADDICTED mother as the MONITER of the visits!!!
I was pissed I almost got arrested in the court because I told the Judge that was BULLSHIT and walked out! the Trailer his mom had was is such poor condition, her drug and alcohol use, her neglect of the two girls, her Felon son and older daughter (also a druggie) was enough to make me stay awake weekends with worry, my daughter was beside herself the whole time during the visits all she did was cry the whole time...back at court to block the visits a month later we asked the court for a DNA test, this Bitch Judge did something right for a change and ordered a DNA test and 2 months later, THANK GOD WAS NOT HIS, 6 months of fear and worry was over at last...I am glad he was only 6 months old when he started the visits and can not remember THESE LOSERS AND A STUPID JUDGE PUT HIS LIFE IN DANGER!
I know how this woman feels...she has the means to take care of this child, that is a no brainer she lives in Rancho Santa Margarita, that is a VERY NICE and RICH area but they want her to give this child to a loser that probably cannot even buy her a pair of shoes much less care for her needs...Judges that don't understand or care for the child's welfare make me sick.. that is how so many end up dead or hurt bad!
PD
Thanks for stopping here and keeping up with the story...as a PD I pray you never have to get a case like this one....welcome to our blog.
I will see you all again after the hearing next week...{{hugs}} T
at 16:34 on July 26th, 2010
Tori I left a message for you last week, for some reason it didn't post. Which has been a problem since I've been here. Well, I've had enough of having to "go visiting" and being at others schedules and "whims" for connection.
I had to sit around and wait for TW to bring a new cable box here, all day so I had him hook up a router, so thank goodness I'm finally connected.
T I'm going to send some info to you in a PM - I just don't want private info posted in a public forum. But it is nothing that must be hidden from our mutual friends.
I was going to be in court today and wasn't able to, my Ex F-I-L passed away last night. He was a good man, made my MIL very happy. Even tho my marriage didn't last, I am closer to those family members than my current In - Laws of the last 15 years. (I call the exes my out laws.
OK now I'm dying for court info from today!!!
ETA: I know we can't help from jail, but that's where I would have ended up before letting my gbaby go to a drug ho's house. That story of your daughter's is so familiar anymore - what a great PSA or after school (MTV) movie it would make.
at 21:28 on July 26th, 2010
LC,
where did you send the PM to? court is now 8/11 there have been some new develoments that have come up concerning DD...I am waiting on a go ahead and tell it, from a trusted friend, if it is too much to put here I will PM it to you.
Court lasted a whoppen 2 mins. GOOD INFO FOR 2 MINS I MUST SAY!
On this court date 8/11 Mr. Sutton (DD) will be in court......to answer some question from what I understand........
SB mouthed "I love you" to BB as she was put back into the holding cell! mmmm, she makes me sick! I love you, too bad her daughter isn't still around to tell that to..how can she?????
well girls I will talk to you later....T
at 09:37 on July 31st, 2010
Hi LC
You asked me something about the Tat on DD'S neck, It says VAMPIRE, on the back of his head (the whole thing) is a picture of a face, not sure of what but not a human face like a mythical thing.. anyway hope you can make it that day..
at 14:52 on July 31st, 2010
Tori, that is really something about dd's tats. Someone commented at the pond that they thought the tats on his neck and head looked like snakeskin. So the back of his neck says VAMPIRE and the back of his head has a picture of some mystical creature's face? Wow, eyes in the back of his head.....literally. This guy would probably even spook the characters in the TWILIGHT series. LOL
at 02:21 on August 4th, 2010
Hi Kat,
No the front of his neck, from lower chin to below the throat is where Vampire is located, I think LC said it looked like some kind of tattoo necklace or something like that.
Yeah, the thing on the back of his head is a face of some sort and he has the large plugs in his ears, I have alway thought that was nasty looking, but to each his or her own!
I am still not sure what to make of all of that, the thing I told you about.....through most of his pictures on MS I doubt it....we will play the waiting game until the 11th.
I am sure Nurse, TD or LC (if she attends) will update us asap and they will do a wonderful job!
I will talk to you all later T
at 11:20 on August 5th, 2010
Thanks for clearing that up about the tats T. Dang that had to hurt having that tat put on the front of his neck. ewww....he probably liked that.
I'm sure any of "our girls" who attend will do a great job informing us about the events in court on the 11th. I know you really want to be at this one though.
I hope LCM gets to attend.....she has a way with words and would have a lot to say.....lol....hopefully she doesn't hurt my sensitive ears. roflmao
HUGS TO ALL!
at 14:03 on August 5th, 2010
The answer to your question is Sutton was a plant by the DA on the bus. The intent was to extract some sort of information regarding Emma's death. He was convicted and sentenced to 26 years, for some sort of child molestation. He was offered a deal (and was found guilty bgy his peers of his crime) to get a lesser sentence if he befriended Stacey. So there you have it. Let's talk about the DA making a deal like that to cover her week case on Stacey.
at 23:47 on August 5th, 2010
Auntie,
Erin Sutton is NOT a child molester, he confronted a man he thought was his friend that was TRYING to offer his (Suttons) 12 year old daughter guitar lessons and maybe molest her in the process or did molest her, here is a excerpt from his MS page:
Erin Josuph Sutton, father of the 12yr. old girl & guitar player for L.A. metal band now faces LIFE IN PRISON from false charges lodged against him by CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER, Jay "Mojo" Wilson of Lancaster, CA. This all stems from a meeting in which Sutton confronted the CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER, demanding to know why he hid his sick sex offenses from him while continually offering to give his 12 yr. old daughter free & private one on one guitar lessons.
The first trial resulted in a Hung Jury for the falsely accused father in which his accuser, the CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER: Wilson, was impeached & proven to be a liar several times while testifying under oath! As was another so-called witness for the prosecution...who also admitted to being on drugs at the time!
The man Alan Jay Wilson, lives in Lancaster and is on MEGANS LAW, Erin J Sutton is not.
Even if he (ES) was a Plant as you say, why would SB befriend him or confide in him? not a real smart move!
I am under the notion that MS. Cromer has a good case and the case is not WEAK in any way, she is just making sure that when it comes time for a Sentence, that it's one that will give SB the time she deserves to think about her reckless actions and maybe feel some remorse about what happened to that beautiful child.
I am not trying to argue with you or anyone else, but the facts are clear, a child is dead and SB made up a real bad story, lied about the abduction and rape, left Emma's body in a field to rot and be found at a later date but then led LE to the body.
SB'S PD is going to use every trick in the book to lessen her Sentence, that is his job! The DDA is going to use everything in her book to get her a tougher one, That is her job.
If you are her Aunt that would mean that you are Emma's Great Aunt , but I hear nothing of your love or loss of Emma, Just your proclamation of SB being Innocent and EJS being guilty of something you read wrong.
People here that are not related to Emma have taken her to our hearts, we almost all have children or Grandchildren the same age and cannot fathom what happened to her looking at our own babies, some knew SB when she was pregnant with Emma and some were pregnant at the same time, more then a few worked or went to school or hung out with other family members, most of the people here save a few had a personal relationship with SB and ELB at some point, they express their love and sorrow for what happened to Emma, We are not just nosey bitches as some of the family that attends court would have everyone think.
There are plenty of Abused and Murdered children in the United States and most of us here either Donate time, Money or our Voices for the Children that have been taken from the world or Abused so bad they have no Voice of their own.
It is sad when people are so selfish that they cannot care about a fellow human being if they are not family or that persons situation does not affect their life..we are unselfish, good ladies here and we care.
Emma just seems to be a little closer to home, we have no selfish reasons for attending the hearings, we are not trying to set people against SB, we are all curious as to what kind of person kills/ or let's die, then dumps a Innocent child and we want to see how Justice works for Emma.
If our Intentions offend you or family that is behind her, then I am sorry but that will not stop us from reporting what is said and done in this case, It was a national and big local story because of the Lies and now some people would have it swept under the carpet so to speak.
at 15:40 on August 5th, 2010
Ok let me get this right, Convicted child molestor - claimed he did not do it. Mother suspected of murder - claimed she did not do it. You don't want to judge a book by it's cover, except for Stacey. I am forever at a loss due to the loss of our sweet Emma, our lives will never be the same. And I am willing to let our justice system work because I was not there and that is what civilized people do. You all seem to be willing to play judge and jury with the convicted child molestor and the mom. (you're not alone seems like a common pastime for many) Hope your right about that guy, I would'nt want any more children molested. Remember it's innocent untill proven guilty. I am greatful that you care about what you know about Emma. She is a beautiful baby that now knows no pain. I look forward to seeing her someday in heaven. respectfully. uncle
at 22:54 on August 5th, 2010
Uncle,
I do know your pain, I had a child die at the hands of reckless driver, I feel for you and the rest of the family, I know how it never (the pain) goes away nor does the love, you knew her better then any of us and loved her and that shows in your post.
The thing you do not know the truth about is that Erin J Sutton is NOT a Child Molester, he was trying to protect his 12 yr old daughter FROM a child molester.
I am put off by you calling us uncivilized people, not one of us Killed or caused a death to a child, that is what I call uncivilized, in our civilized culture we give a child up before we let it die or murder it.
It is true "we care about what we know about Emma" she is beautiful and looks just like her Dad Anthony, that should be enough for you to see that we are CIVILIZED people... come on now I have seen "uncles" in court only a couple of times, if you have attended you would have heard the awful things that were confessed to the Detective (on tape) and maybe formed an opinion yourself, it was not hard to do!
I hope nothing I have said hurts you, it's not what I had in mind, I respect the fact that you care for your sister or niece (not sure uncle to who) and came here to give us a small glimps into your feelings for Emma.
In closing I hope you never let Emma stray far from your mind, I know she will stay in your heart until the day the Lord's doors open for you and you two are reunited. you sound like a wonderful uncle. T
at 21:56 on August 24th, 2010
Uncle,
why did you write this part "She is a beautiful Baby that now knows no pain"? did she experiance PAIN in her short life?
Maybe you just picked the wrong words!