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by greg1usa | June 1, 2008 at 08:28 pm | 524 views | 9 comments

The two Christians have now filled a complaint against the officer Naguthney

According to a complaint by the men's lawyers, Mr Naguthney summoned two other officers in support, one of whom, a full constable, is said to have told the men not to return to the area.

Earlier this year, he had a prominent role at a conference to launch the West Midlands branch of the National Association of Muslim Police. He gave a reading from the Koran before the audience heard a recorded contribution from Gordon Brown, a speech from Home Office Minister Tony McNulty, and contributions from several chief constables.

Mr Naguthney declined to discuss the row.

A senior Church of England bishop, the Right Reverend Michael Nazir-Ali, warned recently that it is hard for non-Muslims to live and work in some areas where radicals and clerics are trying to impose an Islamic character.

source dailymail.co.uk

Will it be a crime just to be a Christian next?

A Police officer informed 2 Christian's they were committing a hate crime by trying to convert Muslims.

Two Christian preachers were stopped from handing out Bible extracts by police because they were in a Muslim area, it was claimed yesterday.

They say they were told by a Muslim police community support officer that they could not preach there and that attempting to convert Muslims to Christianity was a hate crime.

The community officer is also said to have told the two men: 'You have been warned. If you come back here and get beat up, well, you have been warned.

The Christian Institute has complained to West Midlands Police the men were told to leave Alum Rock Road
The incident will fuel fears that "no-go areas" for Christians are emerging in British towns and cities, as the Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester, claimed in The Sunday Telegraph this year.

When the officer discovered the two Birmingham pastors were born in the U.S., he began a heated criticism of President Bush and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Cunningham explained that the gospel message was not linked to American foreign policy, but the officer reportedly became belligerent.

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JTshockley

Interesting. I'm still lost as to how that's a hate crime...

greg1usa

It beats me

patgarcia
good stuff:

greg1usa, I like this story. It's good stuff. Thanks for posting! It is  forbidden  to preach the gospel  in  many Muslim countries, missionaries have been arrested and  some have even been killed.

PEP
good stuff:

greg1usa, I like this story. It's good stuff.

On the other hand, it seems to be OK for Muslims to demand "freedom" for their religion. Hmmm.

celebrity_gossip

This is ridiculous. Freedom of speech is a fundamental in western societies and this clearly states that things are changing. We're moving from freedom to limited rights and soon totalitarianism.

kdwriter

Freedom of speech YES, but impertinence NO and this somewhat is similar to the Danish cartoons.  It seems to me that many Westerners are ignorant about other people’s cultures because different cultures have different interpretations of what freedom of speech is.  And handing Bible in a Muslim populated area is not a freedom of speech it is an insult and police community support officers had every right to step in and warn them because one of the missionaries could have been hurt.

celebrity_gossip

Different cultures do have different interpretations of what freedom of speech is, but this happened in England. The officer told the preachers that passing out bibles in a Muslim community is a hate crime, which is preposterous. They were standing at a corner trying to give bibles for free. I don't see how this could be a crime, and if people passing by didn't like what they saw they should have simply continued on their way.


What happens when a mosque opens up in a predominantly non-Muslim or even Christian area, is that considered a hate crime? If the government were to try to stop the opening of that mosque the outcry would be heard all over. The reality of what we're facing is that the rights of certain people infringe on the rights of others. (This last phrase is not directed specifically to the Muslim community but rather to the main issue of; what human rights do we really have, and how complicated it's getting.)


greg1usa

It does seem that the times are a changing, I myself do not see what they could of done wrong. So long as someone does not try to force their views or beliefs on another then what is the problem? Did what they did REALLY constitute a hate crime?


What do you think?



liamssoft

I do not see this as a 'Hate Crime' more of a question of 'Good advice' for their own safety.

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