Vatican Slams Avatar: Warns Against Nature Worship And Paganism

Orwells Ghost, I couldn't agree with you more. The entire concept of the Vatican acting like they know something of Science Fiction is hilarious. As for them not liking Avatar. Well, that was to be expected. If it isn't their perception of how things should be, then they hate it. You're also right about Christmas, but I believe the Solstice was on Dec 21 rather than 25.

Well, Christianity and Islam have broth us hate and environmental destruction's since the three religions based on the Hebrew scripts advocate the human supremacy over all living creatures and the Earth it self.

Maybe a more humble believe structure would do us some good and help the environment as well.

 I have to admit though, I have not seen this movie. Maybe I should. :)

@Lord Methos"You're also right about Christmas, but I believe the Solstice was on Dec 21 rather than 25."Yes, it does start on Dec 21st, but it is Dec 25th when during the Winter Sostice that the Sun begins to rise again.On Dec 21st the sun is the lowest it gets in the sky, this is when they told the Pagans Jesus died. And the sun stays at the low point suspended for 3 days... just like Jesus died and stayed dead for 3 days. So the sun "dies" on the 21st and stays dead like Jesus for 3 days... the 22nd, 23rd, and 24th... before it then rises again on the 25th, just like Jesus. Its pagan sun worship.Even the Popes mitre comes from Babylonian Dagon Priests

James C. must be loving this.  The Vatican has just ensured that this movie will make even more $$$ now coz people were not interested in before are now going to see it because of the conversely.  Didn't The Vatican learn anything about complaining about movies in the past, it only makes the movie, song, album more popular.

Being that I am pagan, I loved this movie, thought it was the best movie ever made that truly showed what it means to be connected to all life through the spirit. Is the Vatican that afraid that the pagans will rise up again, worhsip the Goddess and dance around the fires? Well guess what we never left and we still worhsip the Goddess, we still dance around the fire and we are aware of the connection with all life just like the movie shows. I just think its funny that they have their panties in a bunch over this movie, considering that every major holiday they celebrate is based on a pagan ritual. It's time the Vatican gets over its big bad self and realizes people can think and choose for themselves.

...so the christmas thing has been touched on...what about easter? Their own Catholic Encyclopedia tells us that "A great many pagan customs, clelebrating the return of spring, gravitated to Easter, and what about birthdays - right up to the 4th cendtury CE christians rejected this practise as a pagan custom - pretty sure the pope celebrates his each year - what hypocrisy so typical of the Catholic Church.

Wouldn't it have been for an important frase of the Bible (Then God said, 'Let us make a man—someone like ourselves, to be the master of all life upon the earth and in the skies and in the seas.' - Genesis 1:26) probably our view of Mother Earth and Nature would be completely different and our world a better place, at least ecologically. Man is not master of all life on Earth: we are just passing-by guests and should behave like that.

Interesting that the Vatican feels threatened by the spiritual values that the film Avatar espouses.  I guess its because the Vatican itself is so  bereft of any true spirituality. 

     I read with interest, the internet piece saying that the catholic church disapproves of  the movie Avatar.  I’m surprised that they didn’t remain silent about this, because the movie was an allegorical equivalent of white man’s holocausting of the native american first people, during the settlement of the Americas.        I mean, the church was the main motivator, and church doctrine was used to rationalize the killing off of the native americans in the US. The same reason was used to kill the aborigines of Africa and Australia.  The church called them godless heathens, and enslaved them, because it says in the bible that it’s OK to keep slaves as long as they’re godless heathens. That was Leviticus 25: 44-46... Timothy 6: 1-4 says: Slaves obey your masters, especially xtian masters. Do you really think that the settlers read these pieces in church, and looked at each other and said: We can’t do that to the blacks, or the indians, because someday they may produce a president of the US!       In Joshua and Jeremiah, god told his followers to kill all of the enemy, men women and children, and this includes babies, because they are godless heathens. This was genocide. The xtians think that they are the center of the moral universe and that their beliefs are more important than the lives of others. That means they are ego centric. It’s destructive and insane to believe that way.       Remember the part in Avatar, when the Shaman mother told the hero that she has to first drive the insanity out of him? That was the insanity that the xtians show us, with their egocentric, ethnocentric beliefs. The belief that they own the world and can rape it any way that they please.     These kinds of stories are the reason that the white people took their cue from the bible, when they tried to kill off the native Americans and took away their children, to raise them in white families so that they would forget their language and culture. That particular effort didn’t stop until some time in the nineteen seventies. The xtians did this because they thought they were the moral center of the universe, and because they thought that their religion is “the one true religion”. I would say that it is ego centric to say the least.        If you read the history of the xtian religion, you’ll find that the brutality didn’t stop with the native americans and it didn’t begin there either. Before the time of Charlemagne, xtian priests were killing anybody that tried to pursue any kind of scientific reasoning. This created the dark ages, and if we hadn’t done the dark ages, if we hadn’t stopped scientific endeavors back then, we may have been a lot further ahead in life now, in other words, we might have been exploring the stars by now. The xtians set us back five hundred years with their ignorant and superstitious beliefs!         Then came Charlemagne, who lived in the eighth century swept through Europe with his righteous armies and cut the heads off of anybody who refused to accept jesus christ as their saviors. So the xtians aren’t just ego centric, the brutality defines them as something beyond that.      After Charlemagne, there were a series of brutal inquisitions and Pogroms. In 1492 the xtians, including King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, decided that the jews in Europe were not xtians, and harboring them there was causing god to do bad things to the Europeans, so the spanish inquisition, headed by Father Tomas de Torquemada, expelled the entire Jewish population from Spain. They allowed them to take only what they could carry, and confiscated everything else. Unfortunately, many were killed for what they had on them, and ship captains were known to charge them huge sums of money to be taken form Spain, only to throw them overboard when they had gotten out to sea.  That was the very same month that Columbus was given the order to take his ships to the new world, where he began the subjugation of the natives of those continents.     In 1609,  King Philip III of Spain, on advice from his mullahs, Forced the Moriscos, the moslems in other words, out of Spain. They only allowed them to take what they could carry on their backs, and they confiscated everything else. They did this because they thought that by harboring them, god was punishing Spain. Superstition rears it’s ugly head again. Turned out that they shot themselves in the foot though, the Moriscos were hard working and helping the economy.       The Church however, and the king of spain made tons of money by doing this, because they confiscated the land and money from the Morisco people that they forced out of Spain.        In around 1572 The king of france decided to kill all the Huguenots, the protestants in other words, and had the St Bartholomew Massacre, in which thousands of Protestants were killed. The Anglican Church of England wasn’t any better, they did the same thing to Catholics. Do you see where I'm going with this? Not only were they setting the scene to kill off native americans, but they were also making it so miserable for the pilgrim settlers in Europe and England, that they had to get into little boats and cross the ocean that was trying to drown them, and live with indians who were trying to kill them, because it was a better deal than living with the xtians in Europe and england.    Oh, this was about the time that the Catholic church burned Giordano Bruno at the stake for telling them that the earth revolves around the sun. So much for Catholic infallibility... They jailed Galileo Gallilee for telling them the same thing. These people just looked into telescopes and saw reality, and told people what he saw, and the church practiced Odeum theologicum on them. Theological hatred. It’s the reason so may books were burned throughout history. Books and people.     Voltaire wrote a lot about that. one of my favorite quotes from him was: I may not like what you are saying, but I'll fight for your right to say it. The founding fathers of the USA liked him too, and with all that killing going on, they knew it was best to write a strong separation of church and state into the constitution of the USA.        You know what? I’m getting tired of writing, here are my refs, read them and weep: Will and Aerial Durant: Age of reason begins. Will and Aerial Durant: History of Europe in the time of Voltaire Hyemeost Storm: Seven Arrows. The bible Wikipedia, the History channel, life in general.