Gazans Flood Through Border to Egypt

Hello Moonwolf,

Clearly you've never been in a concentration camp, or subjected to Nazism, else you'd never have made such an uninformed ridiculous statement of fantasy.

Israel has done nothing to contravene the Geneva Convention.  Each time rockets are fired into Israel, entire families are destroyed, just as I'm sure happens when Israel fires rockets.  I do know one thing, Israel doesn't instigate the violence - they react to it.

I've lived in Israel and I know about the violence that is perpetrated there - have you ever been there?  Ever been to Palestine?  I have.  You should speak to the Palestinians there who detest their government for what they've brought upon them and continue to bring.

Of course Israel defends itself, any country worth it's salt would do the same.  When you read newspapers, do you hold your judgement till you've managed to read both sides, fairly and without a bias?

Methinks you have a hidden agenda - perhaps a little anti-semitic?

Try reading the other side for a change.

(Emphasis is mine.)

Here you can read again, how Palestinians have come into Israel, not to kill any military - but innocent hikers; suicide bombers killing shoppers in malls; numerous cowardly drive-by shootings, including innocent teenagers; bombs in the local Tel Aviv market place; grandmothers with babies in their arms and city buses bombed.

And Israel is condemned for wanting to protect itself?

I think you'd benefit from reading fair and balanced news Moonwolf, instead of watching particular TV channels and reading newspapers, who specifically (for their own reasons) report only slanted news.

I welcome any further discussion, if you're so inclined. 

Here's a little light reading on current anti-semitism in the United States from the Anti-Defamation League.
         ~ Swan

 

Hello Moonwolf,

And just what is it that you think you "know" Moonwolf?

What do you "know" that you've never read in the newspapers or watched on TV?

Unless you've actually spent any length of time in the Middle East, you cannot know.  You can quote from what you read, but you don't know. 

And you know this first hand do you?

Did you even read the information I left for you?  Forget it, I know that you didn't, or you would have said something in your reply.  And this is precisely what I mean about having a fair and balanced view of things that happen.

You chose not to read the information (or simply skipped it) and therefore maintain your blindness of what's really happening in the Middle East. I do understand where you're coming from, much as you'll deny it.

I get personal reports and phonecalls from friends that I trust in Israel all the time.

And you have your newspapers and TV.  I think it's very sad to base your entire personal belief system on printed media.
         ~ Swan

 

Hello again Moonwolf,

Thank you for making my point.  All your information is gleaned from the media alone.  Let's take each link that you've so kindly offered in the interests of an:

I see why you quoted this publication in particular, it's called "If Americans Knew" Oh and I see that they sell Arab t-shirts with Arabic writing too.  I checked their "About" page, here's an excerpt for our readers: First of all they're discounting the fact that major newspapers here and elsewhere have sister papers in most countries, with whom they share information.  Even the English version of Al Jazeera is available to anyone who wants to read it.

There are thousands upon thousands of Jews in America who have relatives in Israel, who can give them first hand information about what is happening there.

I don't think American media typically "misreports" events in the Middle East.  I'm not saying that they can't get it wrong once in a while, but they speak as if the entire population of America is pro-Israel.

Well that just sounds like sour grapes to me.  Any country looks to it's allies for aid if needed.  Just because they're not getting a piece of the cake, it becomes part of their mission statement.  That's very odd.

Then again, as the rest of their mission statement is one long diatribe of America and Israel and their big "cover up."  They're either paranoid or whimsical, I haven't decided which yet.  I have decided that I'd rather read Al Jazeera than a publication that calls itself, "If Only America Knew."

So pardon me if I don't think too highly of that particular "reference" that you provided. 

Your next link was to a web site named "Sound Off Egypt" whose main permanent heading/links include:  Terrorizing Palestine; Israeli Massacres and Israeli's[sic] Leader.   Those links look just a tad biased to me and don't indicate any semblance of fair reporting.

Frankly I thought the following quote to be purposefully degrading and simultaneously hurtful to the Jewish people and a way to incite their enemies to even more hatred.

The original formatting has the question in 10 times the font size I have here.  Pretty telling statement about where they and you are coming from - and you claim not to be anti-semitic, when this is the paper you quote to me?

I simply can't take anything that appears there at face value.  The fanatacism that I've read there already has determined that it's nothing more than a hate fest.

Moonwolf, we could go on trading links ad infinitum but it serves no purpose to our readers in a dead end debate like this one has become.  You're not prepared to follow the links I give you to see another side and that tells me that you're debating on emotion, not facts.

I'm done here.
       ~ Swan