2 Greenhouse Gases on the rise worry scientists

by RayBanBro66 | October 24, 2008 at 03:22 pm
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Carbon dioxide isn't the only greenhouse gas that worries climate scientists. Airborne levels of two other potent gases - one from ancient plants, the other from flat-panel screen technology - are on the rise, too. And that's got scientists concerned about accelerated global warming.

The gases are methane and nitrogen trifluoride. Both pale in comparison to the global warming effects of carbon dioxide, produced by the burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels. In the past couple of years, however, these other two gases have been on the rise, according to two new studies. The increase is not accounted for in predictions for future global warming and comes as a nasty surprise to climate watchers.

Methane is by far the bigger worry. It is considered the No. 2 greenhouse gas based on the amount of warming it causes and the amount in the atmosphere. The total effect of methane on global warming is about one-third that of man-made carbon dioxide.

Methane comes from landfills, natural gas, coal mining, animal waste, and decaying plants. But it's the decaying plants that worry scientists most. That's because thousands of years ago billions of tons of methane were created by decaying Arctic plants. It lies frozen in permafrost wetlands and trapped in the ocean floor. As the Arctic warms, the concern is this methane will be freed and worsen warming. Scientists have been trying to figure out how they would know if this process is starting.

By contrast, nitrogen trifluoride has been considered such a small problem that it's generally been ignored. The gas is used as a cleaning agent during the manufacture of liquid crystal display television and computer monitors and for thin-film solar panels.

Earlier efforts to determine how much nitrogen trifluoride is in the air dramatically underestimated the amounts, said Ray Weiss, a geochemistry professor with Scripps Institution of Oceanography and lead author on a nitrogen trifluoride paper. It is set to be published in Geophysical Letters in November.

Nitrogen trifluoride levels in the air - measured in parts per trillion - have quadrupled in the last decade and increased 30-fold since 1978, according to Weiss, who is also a co-author of the methane paper.

It contributes only 0.04 percent of the total global warming effect that man-made carbon dioxide does from the burning of fossil fuels.

But nitrogen trifluoride is one of the more potent gases, thousands of times stronger at trapping heat than carbon dioxide. Methane is more than 20 times more potent than carbon dioxide on a per molecule basis. Carbon dioxide remains the most important gas because of its huge levels and rapid growth.

Still, methane and the potential of future increases is a worry, Weiss and others say.

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Amy Judd

The one from ancient plants is kind of confusing. I didn't know about that.

Fairbanks
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at 15:34 on October 24th, 2008

Water vapor is the main, primary, most dominant greenhouse gas. 

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timaloha

Water vapor is not a greenhouse gas. In fact, it isn't a gas at all. Water vapor (essentially steam) cools rapidly and does not trap heat in the atmosphere. It simple returns to the earth as rain.

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RayBanBro66

Agree with you timaloha..... unless Fairbanks was going for the H2O aspect.... 2parts Hydrogen gas to Oxygen. I know it's stretching it...but we'll give Fairbanks the benefit of the doubt  :)

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Rob S

Was this a joke? Water vapor is a gas, and it does absorb IR radiation. It accounts for over 50% of the greenhouse effect.

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RayBanBro66

thnx for GS flag Fairbanks

Barbara McPherson
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at 17:48 on October 24th, 2008

RayBanBro66, I like this story. It's good stuff.  Our Canadian north is locked in permafrost.  The plants that died years ago were trapped in swampy ground and frozen.  If the climate starts to melt the permafrost, the rotten plants will start to release methane gas(a product of decay).  All across northern Russia, Sweden, Norway is permafrost.  The potential for disaster from melting permafrost is mind boggling.

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RayBanBro66

Thanx for GS flag Barbara.  Your reference to the "swampy" ground jarred my memory....the STENCH...which is indeed Methane gas from decaying plants. Once you smell that, you won't ever forget it .   We've got to start paying more attention to the environment

Eustaquio Santimano
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at 19:54 on October 24th, 2008

RayBanBro66, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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RayBanBro66

Thank you for the GS flag Eustaquio

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