Couples must control their lusts in this over-populated world!

by gerrypopplestone | April 12, 2009 at 01:14 am
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"Those were the days my friend, We thought they'd never end,
We'd sing and dance forever and a day, We'd live the life we choose,
We'd fight and never lose, For we were young and sure to have our way".



Over-population:



Are you thinking what I'm thinking? 



NowPublic's aumnews (April 2009) called the population explosion a taboo subject. We all know what should be done but daren't say it! Ok: so let's come out with it.  Some people are having too many children. They've got to stop!  Jane Goodall, in the video that aumnews added to the article, says:  "Often we go into the (poor) villages and we say to the people - 'if you have a piece of land and you go and have ten or even twelve children, then that land is not going to be big enough for you all.  We talk to them and they understand!"



Long ago, my great grandfather sired twenty-five children. My great grandmother spent half her life looking after them; apart from the ones that died.  No one complained.  That was what parents did in those days!  My Gran then had nine children and my Mum had four.  Families across Europe were slowly getting smaller. 



Pretty soon, big families were being seen as the problem (couples who couldn't control themselves). Today, in some parts of the world (no names please, but look at Italy), some couples have decided not to have any children!  Are they being responsible or just plain selfish?



Do something:



Unless we do something about it, we are going to have nine billion people squeezed together in this little world? With not enough food, not enough water and not enough space. Is it in fact true?  Or are we writers just peddling our favourite stereotypes about the population bomb?  And using this emotive language just to make a point.



Matthew Connelly (in his book, Fatal Misconception, April 2008) argues that there has been a gigantic struggle going on for years, between those who want to control population and the others who see going forth and multiplying as a sacred duty. He describes how "a vast population control movement swung into motion, bent on stamping out population growth everywhere,  especially in poor countries. Some, in the 1930s, wanted to see more breeding by white people, and fewer babies born by the poor".  Even in the 1960's, the head of USAID, said that "abortion was especially appropriate for poor people, since they lacked the foresight to use birth control".  There were even incentives for those in poor countries if they agreed to be  sterilized. Trained women marched through villages, passing out condoms, pills, and lots of advice. In many areas some degree of force or deception (as with vasectomies in rural India) was used to cut population. And China introduced its one child policy, even giving abortions under force.

"Those against the population movement fought a rearguard movement. Pope John Paul wrote "a new encyclical, Evangelium Vitae, (the Gospel of Life)...and pounded home his arguments in virtually every public appearance". But in countries like Brazil, people ignored the Pope and fertility rates began to fall  (from more than six to a little more than two in 40 years).  The irony is that the population control programmes made little difference really. Matthew Connelly argues "the number of children per women fell between 1950 and 2000 in countries with strong population control programs. But it also dropped dramatically during the same period in countries that made little effort to stop population grown or even encouraged it". 

Indeed, the UN reports (Sept 5 2005):  "the halving of fertility rates in developing countries, and a dip in the birth rate of even the least developed ones....  From 1950 to 2005, fertility rates in developing countries (not the poorest), plummeted from 6.2 births per family to 2.8". The UN now thinks that population will peak at nine billion in 2050 and then start falling for the first time since the 14th century (the Black Death).

Why the change?: 



So what happened to make this big change? Experts used to think it was educating women that did the trick. Once they learnt to read, it opened up more options for them and they stopped having so many children. But tell that to the women of Bangladesh!  They are among the poorest and the least educated in the world.  And most girls there marry in their teens.  In 1973, they had an around 5.5 children in each family.  But by the 1990s, this fell dramatically.  Now they have 2.7 (UN Population Report, April 2nd 2009). Equally unexpected is the discovery that most of the recent decline in fertility in India has been among illiterate women.  In Iran, too, women have cut their fertility rate by two- thirds in less than 20 years.  



How come they have changed so much? Demographers believed humans were "hard-wired" to have at least two children. But now they have ditched the idea that it's prosperity and education that encourage women to voluntarily reduce their numbers of babies. 



In both Bangladesh and Pakistan, child care is the woman's domain. Men don't interfere over children in the home Husbands get involved only in decisions outside the home. So women get to decide the numbers of children they intend to bear. But controlling women is a part of the social structure. And often, it's the mother-in-law who gets to decide things, which undermines a young women's confidence.



Freedom:



But things are changing. Demographers say that, apart from the availability of contraception, there is something else that accounts for this fast-falling fertility - women's emancipation. Even the very poor and ill-educated are starting to learn about the gains of women round the world. Tim Dyson (a professor of population studies) says: "they are seizing their chance for a better life. And that doesn't have to involve babies".





This came partly through the improved life-expectancy of children. "The enormous time, energy and emotion women used to spend on bearing and raising children, most of whom died before reaching adulthood, can now be spent on other things," says Griffith Feeney of the East- West Center in Hawaii.  And, having seized their social and economic opportunities, some women are questioning the need for parenthood altogether. "Getting married and having children are simply not as important as they used to be," Professor Dyson says.



How come?  Fred Pearce gives us a clue in his book Confessions of an Eco Sinner. He followed a group of young women who had moved from their villagers in Bangladesh to Dhaka, in search of work.  They took jobs in low paying so called sweatshops, making tee-shirts and being paid about a dollar a day.  Not much:  yet these women were able to send home about three dollars for each week they worked.  In spite of the low pay and harsh factory conditions, these women were the rich ones in their families, giving them a real status in their villages for the first time ever.  More important, as one factory manager pointed out: "these women are becoming an economic force.  This is the first time  they have had jobs outside the home.  They are independent decision makers.  They can come and go; nobody stops them".  Tim Dyson reckons that even the women stuck at home in the villages are changing. "In the modern world... the flickering TV screen in the corner of the room that shows the young women the kind of world they could have if they could win a life away from just rearing children". And watching the tele is certainly easier than learning to read.



The rest of the world:



Already 60 countries have fertility rates below replacement levels, from Europe and North America to East Asia and the Caribbean. Soon Thailand, Iran, Vietnam, and Sri Lanka will join them. Mexico and Turkey, Indonesia and Brazil, even India, will be there within 20 years. Muslim or Catholic, socialist or capitalist, rich or poor, women are choosing not to have as many children.



"The implications", says Joseph Chamie (UN Population Division),"are momentous".  "Women and men in developing countries are marrying later, having fewer children and having them later", the UN 2009 Population Report said.  In the world's 192 countries, the number of women between the ages of 25 and 29 who are single rose from 15 percent in the 1970s to 24 percent in the 1990s. For men, the increase was from 32 percent to 44 percent.  Of course, the population changes will take some time to filter through.  At present, hospital delivery wards are full of women who were themselves born in an earlier baby boom.  But the rate of population increase is beginning to slow.  That is the good news.

Neil MacFarquhar (New York Times April 3 2009) says:  “in most of the Islamic world it’s amazing, the decline in fertility that has happened,’’ And the UN's Ms. Zlotnik recently argued that Middle Eastern nations with high birth rates, like Yemen, are now the exception. “Even in cultures that are Muslim, advances of a very big quantity can be made, if the government has enough commitment to provide the services and the social infrastructure that validates those changes,” she said. Other Middle Eastern states in the top 15, in order of the steepest drop, including Tunisia, Algeria, the United Arab Emirates, Libya, Kuwait, Qatar and Morocco.



Of course, not every country has followed the trend. Israel, Argentina and Malaysia have all kept fertility rates around three children per woman. The US has higher fertility levels,  because of the influx of immigrants. And in many poor African nations, women still have six children or more. In Europe, the highest fertility rates are now in Scandinavia, where men and the state have accepted more responsibilities for bringing up children. Women there combine motherhood with a career in a way still not possible in southern Europe,



But Joseph Chamie (United Nations Population Division) expects fertility rates in most of the developing world to drop by mid-century to around 1.85. So hundreds of millions of women could be setting the human race on a path toward this steady decline. Within 50 years, four-fifths of the world's women may settle for two or fewer children. And if that happens, babies will be so scarce that the world's population will be shrinking.



Forget the population bomb: there may soon be a baby bust.






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Paschen

It is a taboo in Africa where we are faced with the worth population explosion on the planet, followed by South Asia.

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gerrypopplestone

Yeah, Uwe.  Sorry I meant to specifically mention Africa, but forgot!

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sara star

 

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sara star

 If we don't take measures to control population growth, mother/human nature will, with war and viruses. Another trend that may develop is infertility.

Experts say at least 100,000 men in Shanghai are suffering from infertility, because of the ever-worsening environmental pollution as well as unhealthy lifestyle under higher work pressure.

Male infertility rate on the rise in Shanghai Radiation from cellphones, computers and other electronic devices, air, water and food pollution, combined with the sedentary lifestyle followed in cities are to blame for a possible "quality decline" of the sperm, which may, in turn, lead to men's poor reproductive capability.


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gerrypopplestone

Sara:  the whole point of this article is to show how women are taking action to lower fertility rates.  Its not about others wanting to control people but about women deciding for themselves.  Controlling population?  Don't you get it?

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sara star

Thanks for clarifying that.

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sara star

UN stance on population control... Agenda 21.

Agenda 21 --Reduction of world population by 80-90%

"... population growth rates have been declining globally, largely as a result of expanded basic education and health care. That trend is projected to lead to a stable world population in the middle of the twenty-first century... The current decline in population growth rates must be further promoted through national and international policies that promote economic development, social development, environmental protection, and poverty eradication, particularly the further expansion of basic education, with full and equal access for girls and women, and health care, including reproductive health care, including both family planning and sexual health, consistent with the report of the International Conference on Population and Development.--- UN document S/19-2. Programme for the Further Implementation of Agenda 21

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tikun

I sense it goes like this. If we don't control the problem our mother of nature will help us out. It just may not be the way we all would like the outcome to be.


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hidflect

I have no children for precisely this reason. I'm just as genetically selfish as anyone else. But I know a few people who are as, or much nicer, than I am so I see no reason to try and add to the problem by increasing the pool. I lost my job in Citi as all the staff (over 40 people) in our department (except 2 native Japanese) were completely replaced over a year by people from Mumbai.  All were eager to get the jobs they did at much, much lower salaries than me. Nice people, all. But the overpopulation they have demonstrated the effect. Corporation owners simply exploited their problem to their own benefit and our (the workers) collective misery.

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JustSkip

ESCONDIDO, California

STROLLER CAPITOL OF THE WORLD

Very common to see Young Hispanic non-English speaking mothers pushing their strollers and their older kids pushing strollers, and they are pregnant once again.

If you go to the local Home twon bufett you would swear you were in a different country because the vast majority of people are not speaking English.

 

And my favorite is that Carrols where kids eat free so they have the older kids pay separately so that they can sponsor the younger kids to eat free.

At our local public schools the majority of kids gettin free breakfast and lunch, are also ESL.

Now that California is running out of water, electricity, and gas, Obama wants to make our 3 million Illegal Aliens legal.  All the while our state is tetering on bankruptcy and the middle class American taxpayers have had enough.

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sara star

Mexico reconquers California? Absolut drinks to that!

 

Absolut

The billboard and press campaign, created by advertising agency Teran\TBWA  and now running in Mexico, is a colorful map depicting what the Americas might look like in an "Absolut" -- i.e., perfect -- world.

The U.S.-Mexico border lies where it was before the Mexican-American war of 1848 when California, as we now know it, was Mexican territory and known as Alta California.

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gerrypopplestone

Sorry, Sara.  Ive missed the point soimewhere.  What has Absdolut got to do with declining fertility rates? Does this indicate that Mexico will be over-runnin g the US because of the size of their families in the future?  If so, it's not only untrue but also a pretty offensive stereotype.  I would hope that NowPublic writers don't indulge in such obnxious images! This is about falling fertility rates!

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sara star

I was replying to JustSkip, in regards to his comment above...".Obama wants to make our 3 million Illegal Aliens legal". This is a photo that depicts where the Mexico border used to lie, before it was taken over by the USA.  It looks like is has come full circle. 

It is not meant to offend anyone.

 

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gerrypopplestone

I'm not sure what this has to do with falling fertility rates!

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BMCWrites

The problems we have on this planet have less to do with overpopulation than they have to do with man's sinful nature.  If everyone will turn to God, He will take care of them:

Luke 12:6-8 (New International Version)

6Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. 7Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

 8"I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God.

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gerrypopplestone

It's OK:  Lord Buddha will take care of me!

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sara star


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anarkissed

The human species is in no way endangered.  If our population values fall enough to where there's a quality of life impact we will breed, have no fear.  It's heartening to hear that even in "ignorant" places women are learning that they can choose not to be brood mares!  If it's in us to do great things, why put that on our children?  Why not focus ourselves and do them?

I decided as a young woman not to breed.  I concluded that if it was in me to be a mother, there surely would be a child come along in need of my mothering.  There's no shortage of humans and not likely to be for a very long time.

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sara star

I have had fun breeding, but have chosen not to have children. I have been actively mothering my sisters' children, so I haven't missed anything.

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gerrypopplestone

Good for you for having the courage to decide!  The influence of so called "grand"parents is still pretty strong!

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tikun

I am very pleased to have three wonderful children. While raising children may not for everyone the experience is worth the life I was blessed with. I have heard this argument since I was a youngster.


It appears that nothing really never changes just the agents.

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gerrypopplestone

How true, tikun!

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Amy Judd

a really good piece Gerry and loved the comment thread; some great insights here.

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jazzyzazzy

Couples lust sex drugs drink rock and roll. Gerry you would have more bother and uproar if you told the pope,naw you are no gonny be a pope anymore,stop it now John Paul.Naw being born into a family of 5 kids was bliss and we all turned oot awe right. To be really frank,the way our old people are being untreated by the NHS.seems a few die.then a few is born.there is always going to be a population problem for evermore.So its up to the gorverments to fix it ! but how?

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sara star

Fertility rates in India and the rest of the developing word are falling at a rate faster than forecasted, but this is no reason to decrease the emphasis on government family planning programmes, a leading demographer warns.

The good news is that fertility rates are dropping in India and the rest of Asia, Africa and Latin America, where the world's most populous developing nations are located.

But this should be no cause for jumping to conclusions on spread of female emancipation or relevance of family planning programmes. The bad news is that the lower birth rate is probably not because more women are getting empowered. Rather, lower fertility rates are the result of growing consumerism rather than anything else, according to a leading Indian born demographer, Alaka Basu.


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gerrypopplestone

The article in infochangeindia doesn't really give much info on what evidence Alaka Basu has as a basis for her conclusions.  Indeed, it appears that she is just using her own prejudices. Hence, I prefer the more detailed research on the changes, of Professor Tim Dyson and James Caldwell!

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gerrypopplestone

Thanks, aumnews!  I think we can still be optimistic about the general state of the world.  Some scientists still point out we have enough food to feed everyone.  The problem some of us get far more than we need while others are seriously malnurished! Yet there continues to be a conspiracy of silence over it!  We in the Global North don't want to admit that others cannot possibly consume as much as we do (there aren't enough resources) but we seem to have no intention of cutting down!

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