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Foodzie: Supporting Local Food Movement or Feeding Off a Trend?
When I first came across the concept of an online farmers market, my heart was torn. On one hand, I believe there is definitely a place for e-commerce business models to thrive in a new, more ecologically conscious society, but on the other, the very definition of local food indicates a direct connection to the food source.
My question is, if I order raw, handcrafted pepperjack cheese from California or pumpkin spice granola from Baltimore am I still participating in a local food choice? My gut instinct is no. The whole point of eating local is to erase the impact of food miles and I'm hard pressed to understand how Foodzie is changing the traditional system aside from commodifying the whole "eating local" trend.
Farmers markets, by their very virtue, are about building relationships between growers and communities. I don't see how Foodzie contributes to this in a meaningful way.
The first couple of sentences summarize the inherent hypocrisy of flying "local" food to far flung places:
The local food movement has been all about buying seasonal food from nearby farmers. Now, thanks to the Web, it is expanding to include far-away farmers too.
Foodzie's raison d'etre appears to be defying the very rationale of buying local food. Perhaps the site's founders might want to read local eating tome 100 Mile Diet before laying claim to such an important lifestyle choice.
I'll stick with going to "real life" farmers markets; at least I get a nice chat in to go with my fresh garlic scapes.
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Most RecentMost Recommended Comments (19)
at 16:11 on January 16th, 2009
What a ridiculous concept - it's just greenwashing, in my opinion.
at 16:18 on January 16th, 2009
Yes totally! What's so unnerving is that they're all young people - they should know better!
at 16:22 on January 16th, 2009
ha!
at 16:38 on January 16th, 2009
I think this was a good concept - although you are exactly right; this totally defeats the whole point of the 'eating local' idea. It should be more of a database of where to find locally grown food and farmers near where you live - not how to purchase something form halfway around the world.
at 17:16 on January 16th, 2009
Still only a prototype but Vegsy aka owngrown from London's Social Innovation Camp is quite close to Amy's vision. It was also in part inspired by Etsy.
at 17:19 on January 16th, 2009
Thanks - I hadn't heard about that!
at 17:33 on January 16th, 2009
In some cases, if food is grown in sustainable ways outside of your local region, it's still worth buying in lieu of food not sustainably grown but from your local region.
Anthony Nicalo of Farmstead Wines talks about being a locavore and wine importer and why that contradiction can be ok.
He also reminds us of a quote from James MacKinnon, co-author of the 100-Mile Diet: "as far as I’m aware, no one in the local foods movement is suggesting that we all need to get all of our food from our local food systems: trade has always been a part of human culture. It’s a question of balance. Over the past few decades we’ve swung toward getting most of our food from increasingly distant sources, and as a result we’re eating worse food at a higher environmental and social cost, and have also lost a critical connection to the landscapes and communities we live in. Local eating is about correcting that imbalance - we eat first and foremost from the places we live in, and then look outward for certain fairly traded, environmentally sustainable goodies."
at 18:18 on January 16th, 2009
This seems like a strange idea, although I like Amy's idea of a database that would make it easier for people to find resources for local food, markets, etc. (Perhaps users could signup and get an e-mail when certain foods were about to be in season and available at their local farmers' markets, etc.)
Another service that might be interesting, is if someone offered a website where people going on vacation could offer to bring back foods from the areas they were visiting so that others could try them (presumably at cost or for barter) when they returned.
I have happy memories bringing back food from vacation in New Orleans to friends in the NYC metro area when I lived up there, as well as neighbors coming back from seeing family in Hawaii who used to bring us some treats from there to sample. It was a nice way to share information about other regions beyond the usual photos.
at 12:49 on January 19th, 2009
I work for an online (Canadian) database called Ethical Consumer that lists socially responsible businesses by area/postal code. I just thought the use of technology could be used more creatively by grassroots-style businesses than the example from Foodzie. Your "foodsharing" example is also a very cool idea. Maybe you should start that up!
at 18:25 on January 16th, 2009
There's something indefinably incompatible, IMHO, about the venerable old farmer's market living in the digital domain ...
at 07:11 on January 17th, 2009
If it needs to be airlifted to you, then it isn't local. I like the idea of a sort of Match.com for food-growers and food-consumers, though.
at 18:06 on January 17th, 2009
The idea of online and local are not incompatible. Sometimes regulations permit selling of a product on line or at the farm gate but not any where else. The current Small Farmer Magazine has an article on a group of Ontario livestock producers who use internet direct to consumers sales. The meat that they market meets all regulations but they are only allowed to sell it at the farmgate or over the net. So the product is sold and paid for over the net and only delivered to the customers weekly in the Toronto area. Still local.
at 23:35 on January 17th, 2009
I'd agree that the first paragraph in the NYtimes article frames the site in a silly light, and there were a couple of curious quotes in there by one of the founders ("Buyers are really supporting the local economy.."), but I'd say the basic premise behind the site makes a good amount of sense to me. It clearly doesn't encourage local consumption, but it does very much encourage small growers, which still benefits local foods. Look at it like this, if the small farmer down the street from me is able to be financially stable by having a portion of her sales come over the internet, then that means she'll still be around for me to buy stuff from a year from now. And even if they're shipping cross-country, they're not running into anywhere near the same ecological footprint as most things you'd get at the supermarket.
at 12:56 on January 19th, 2009
Good point, my brother also pointed out that the site doesn't seem to necessarily push "local" per se, but I got the impression from the newspaper article they were trying to work that angle and I wanted to cry foul. I agree that there can be a place for internet sales to compensate a grower's income but I also see many holes in the traditional distribution chain. And you're right about the footprint of the traditional supermarket - that's what would be great to change here!
at 03:47 on January 18th, 2009
Folks we have to ask ourselves how concerned these young people are with the local producer when they're taking 20 -25 percent of each sale. That its less than the 30-45 percent that the distributors takes is of no consequence. I think greenwashing is a good term. Ebay charges 8.75 percent and these people are going to take 20 because its lower than fifty. How about offering some real value added services like hands on SEO work and at a lower percentage. They're fleecing the little man. More fleecing of the small manufacturer is not what this country needs.
at 05:03 on January 18th, 2009
I will travel long distances to purchase the freshest and best products that I can find. The relationship with the vendors/growers, support of the community and passion for food is what drives me in my search for local markets. However there are items found at local markets where online relationships could be established. I shop in local markets in Italy, Switzerland and France. For example shipping honey, candy, dried meats, preserved foods, candles or any other nonperishable items not affected by time can be bought on-line. It adds to your ability to prepare dishes that add interest and authenticity to your recipes. It is support for small businesses that are devoted to artisan and family productions. Of course this eliminates many items (fruits & vegetables), but not all. For example, I bought a variety of popcorns from a farm in the mid-west, USA to be shipped to my grandchildren in the North East for Valentines Day one year. They loved the gift and enjoyed many different types of popcorn they never knew existed. Living in Switzerland this is a big advantage as I know that I can buy natural products and still support local farmers even from long distances.
I live in a wine growing region and have met vintners at the wine market in Zürich and in France where I have bought wines. They store it for me and I send them an email to ship it to me whenever I need it. If you don't have good wine storage this is a good option. I have had relationships and have done business directly with them for years.
The issue is support of local markets and producers devoted to family traditions/recipes and natural production wherever it might be. There is nothing like a local market and the interaction with the people - on-line is second best but it is an option, (read my article about "Il Mercato").
Long comment, but I'm passionate about this subject.
at 14:10 on January 20th, 2009
Patricia, thank you for your thoughtful comment! I love reading insightful, personal material like this. You raise some food for thought too, pardon the pun...
at 14:14 on January 20th, 2009
Foodzie's marketing philosophy is a cynical contradiction in terms.
That's too bad, because the idea of being able to buy Californian pepperjack cheese if you live in Galena Illinois is an appealing one in itself, but this company's methods of finding business are tantamount to dishonest advertising, which is why I wouldn't order from them.
Thanks for the post.
at 03:55 on April 28th, 2009
wow... this is yummy.. thanks for the idea..thought i wish i can get hold of the rizal dairy farm product myself.