'Fourteen days to seal history's judgment on this generation'

by Babel-Fish | December 6, 2009 at 01:37 pm
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Political press? Who cares at least they are on the right track that will I hope urge and nudge governments to go anti-oil and gas. Thus stop the oil wars such as happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.


Tomorrow 56 newspapers in 45 countries take the unprecedented step of speaking with one voice through a common editorial. We do so because humanity faces a profound emergency.

Unless we combine to take decisive action, climate change will ravage our planet, and with it our prosperity and security. The dangers have been becoming apparent for a generation. Now the facts have started to speak: 11 of the past 14 years have been the warmest on record, the Arctic ice-cap is melting and last year's inflamed oil and food prices provide a foretaste of future havoc. In scientific journals the question is no longer whether humans are to blame, but how little time we have got left to limit the damage. Yet so far the world's response has been feeble and half-hearted.

Climate change has been caused over centuries, has consequences that will endure for all time and our prospects of taming it will be determined in the next 14 days. We call on the representatives of the 192 countries gathered in Copenhagen not to hesitate, not to fall into dispute, not to blame each other but to seize opportunity from the greatest modern failure of politics. This should not be a fight between the rich world and the poor world, or between east and west. Climate change affects everyone, and must be solved by everyone.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

I want to see all these oil thirsty people to park their vehicles.  What we need to do is get people to change their ways and make sure that a proper transition is made from oil to something else that doesn't damage the environment.  This is not all about carbons, this is about changing lifestyles and the way we do business.  It's minus 23 c here tonight.  It is about alternate way of heating.  It is about how we get around.  It really means everything has to change. 

I doubt that there are any quick fixes.  I find it interesting how everyone jumps on the bandwagon while a conference like this one is on and next week we will all go back to business as usual. 

I think of all the promises that were made during Kyoto and where did we advance to? 

People should say what they Mean and Mean what they say.  That would be a good start.


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aurealeus

Personally, I would like to see a conversion to Hydrogen and/or Solar powered vehicles.

While I'm not up on the science and technology and understand some of the implecations and expense surrounding these types of technologies, putting their development decades from now, both decrease dependence upon burning fossil and bio-diesel fuels and coal, resulting in a cleaner environment.

 

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

This is an interesting point of view by the Danish Parliamentary Speaker.  It is worthwhile reading the whole article:

“The problem is that lots of people go around saying that the climate change we see is a result of human activity. That is a very dangerous claim,” Parliamentary Speaker and former Finance Minister Thor Pedersen (Lib) tells DR.

“Unfortunately I seem to experience that scientists say: ‘We have a theory’ – then that crosses the road to the politicians who say: ‘We know’. Who can be bothered to hear a scientist who says ‘I have a theory’ when politicians go around saying ‘I know’” Thor Pedersen says.


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a211423

cowpoke.........In the ancient times the horses and cattle occupied the bottom floor of the house and the people lived on the second floor; hence, the heat from the animals would rise to provide a passive form of heating. 

I agree incremental changes in lifestyles has a pervasive effect in aggregate.  While we may hear all sorts of messages from environmentalists and politicians, the facts are made real to us when through conservation efforts personally our energy bill is lower or our water use has decreased due to conscious efforts to conserve, and most of all for many their gasoline expenditures are less with hybrid automobiles or hopefully electric cars in the future.

If countries can come together in Copenhagen and make public declarations and set goals, we should be able to do it as individuals as well.

(So, cowpoke, when do the horses get to come in the house? )     : )    

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Babel-Fish
In the ancient times the horses and cattle occupied the bottom floor of the house and the people lived on the second floor; hence, the heat from the animals would rise to provide a passive form of heating.

Some old Filipino farmers houses have been built that way, now I know why, thanks. 

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Say it ain't so.  Well a211423, I guess things must have really changed in the LA /San Diego area.  I used to skydive in Paris Valley near to Riverside and it was just amazing the amount of smog moving inland from that area.  The highways around LA almost down to San Diego almost moved bumper to bumper. 

So I still say yes incremental changes and change of people's habit.  The question also is how many people are comfortable traveling with mass transport. 

Every major urban area is wall to wall cars.  To my amazement where are all these people going? 

By the way people are plugging in their cars here tonight, it will be between -25 and -25c.  I wonder how electric cars would work in those temperatures? 

Horses wouldn.t like my basement, no flat screen tv:)


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a211423

Horses wouldn.t like my basement, no flat screen tv:)

Best laugh I had all day!

Electric cars will be the future as they progress together with battery technology.  I don't know how cold would effect a car in a garage plugged into electrical outlet.  (Here is my stupidity when it comes to cars--i know how to drive them, but thats all! )  Batteries are sealed I think and there isnt anything in them that can freeze, or if there is it has some sort of anti-freezing stuff like the radiator has. 

I live in Northern California, so I don't know much about socal except that its smoggy.

Babel

You are welcome. : )  I lived in PI for three years when my stepdad was stationed at Subic Bay.  I was just a kid then, but I remember the houses on stilts called nipa huts.  When we went to Baggio once, I thought I was back in the states because there were regular houses.  lol

 

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

I am a little concerned about electric cars in this part of the world.  Alberta derives it's electricity from coal.  So I am not sure where the gain would be.  I guess extreme heat could be just as devastating.  I'm sure there are solutions and I am sure smarter people than me are working on them. 

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Babel-Fish

If its batteries and the temperature problem the ones used on the proposed electric cars in Canada work down to -55. There was a safety block on using them there it could be such batteries can blow up if they short out? Not that that happens if maintenance is good. It could of been some other reason such as traveling silently or a speed factor?

Interestingly enough my motor scooter is very quiet operating at speeds below 20 K per hour, I used to often beep the horn in town to stop people walking out in front of me, not looking before crossing the road. It's was a bit worrying some times especial with stupid kids. I put some loose nuts and bolts in my back bin and now I have no real problem.      

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YankeeJim

I have walked more the past five years than I have all my life. It is harder now, but it is the one thing that I do that always makes me feel good when it is over.

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