Flickr Filtered: Germany takes control

by babblingdweeb | June 15, 2007 at 08:30 am
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Flickr, a image sharing portal for professionals, hobbyists or just cat lovers has hit Internet headlines again for issues related to access and censorship. Last year it was the U.A.E. [United Arab Emirates] blocking the country from the images on Flickr, causing users to bounce their connection off other servers to use the site. Recently China followed suit [NP], and some speculated the block by the Chinese government was related to the Tienanmen Square anniversary date [NP].

Now Germany has stepped up to the headline [NP] by disallowing users from accessing moderate and restricted photos in Germany; but the "what" and "why" are still not obvious to Flickr users. It wasn't until late last night that a response from Flickr staff fully explained the issue...age restrictions and adult content. To fully understand it, you need to know some background...

On March 22 a new filter system was introduced [Flickr Blog] on Flickr which allow users to set their viewing comfort level with images on the website. This allows for the diverse collection of images that runs from hard-core pornography to pictures of kittens and babies. Overall this idea of filtering is quite sound and allows for more users to participate without worrying about showing their friends photos they posted and accidentally pulling up adult content.

Further, the issue of what is "safe content" has become something of a debate for months on Flickr, but that's not the problem. With any international organic "living" website, you have many different countries and many different laws that come into play. To add a twist into the mix, Flickr was acquired by Yahoo in March 2005. Yahoo, a company known to bow to foreign governments, required Flickr users to create Yahoo accounts to continue using Flickr. Yahoo an international company, abides by local laws.

The central problem is that Germany has much more stringent age verification laws than its neighboring countries and specifies much harsher penalties, including jail time, for those with direct responsibility (in our case, it would be our colleagues in the German offices and we're not willing to make a call that has that kind of consequence for them).

Many Flickr users accept this response, but they are still frustrated. Some are questioning the German laws Yahoo and Flickr are (not yet) citing. The tipping point for online communities is an interesting phenomenon. Case in point, enough people feel strongly that there is an online petition [Superfluence], Wiki [ACF wiki] and a Flickr Group [Flickr] to discuss the problem and express frustration in art.

While I think the situation could have been handled a little differently, I can't argue with international laws. Hopefully in the future Flickr will be quick to explain situations like this so users won't feel alienated.

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Bill Adler
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at 09:12 on June 15th, 2007

babblingdweeb, terrific story.  You explained a complex subject clearly.  --Bill

jordan
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at 09:12 on June 15th, 2007

Nice work. The varying degrees of permissiveness between nations is a constant sticking point for international web communities. I understand, though, why users are upset.

Kaitlin
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at 09:12 on June 15th, 2007

babblingdweeb, thanks for posting this. Although I agree that international laws must be abided by when you're in that country...I don't know that Yahoo should make the choice to bow to regional governments when they are an international company. What's good for the goose is not good for the gander where Yahoo is concerned, and I know I would be mad if I was treated differently than someone using the same service in another country. It just makes for lots of rabble rousing, and for people wanting to seek out other ways to get the service...illegal ones.

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Natascha2007

It is not true, that Germany disallows us to view specific contents. Germany just disallows children under 18 to view hardcore porn (and this really means hardcore!). Nothing else. Yahoo did not understand the German laws, it seems.

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jesuspark

The point really is that Yahoo/Flickr preferred to restrict all users from these countries in their freedom of choice, rather than figuring out a practicable age verification procedure - which would have solved the problem. They could still leave the choice to the user of either accepting to go through such a routine or to do without the 'rated' content.

Although age verification technology doesn't involve any rocket science it is obviously more costy than switching an option off globally. But then, this is not responsible behaviour against their (paying) clients and the whole of the flickr community. I am actually wondering if this change in their offering allows users to resign from the subscription contracts and to claim back their money. 

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Groudy.Blue

I'm on flickr too (from Italy), a large number of us has create a series of comments with photo slogan against censorship for solidarity with the member damaged.


The story diffuses between us about this event is:



If your Yahoo! ID is based in Singapore, Germany, Hong Kong or Korea you will only be able to view safe content based on your local Terms of Service so won’t be able to turn SafeSearch off. In other words that means, that german users can not access photos on flickr that are not flagged "safe" ... only flowers and landscapes for germans ...Copy and upload this picture to your account - show flickr who we are!


 - <a href="www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/91085http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/91085">www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/91085</a>
- <a href="www.flickr.com/groups/404938@N23/discuss/72157600347681500/http://www.flickr.com/groups/404938@N23/discuss/72157600347681500/">www.flickr.com/groups/404938@N23/discuss/72157600347681500/</a>
- <a href="www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/42597/http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/42597/">www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/42597/</a>



Their Answer: flickr.com/help/forum/42597/page5/#reply227666  


Here my photo slogan


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<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1232/547407232_9854477a94.jpg" mce_src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1232/547407232_9854477a94.jpg">

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eve isk

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eve isk

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eve isk


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Anchor

well, international laws should be abide by, and there is nothing to be frustrated. Nice sharing your views:)

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