Canada: Private Health Care Continues to Erode

by sara star | March 25, 2009 at 05:54 am
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Canada still has a good public system,

one that must not be taken for granted.

One that must be supported.

One that must be remember at election time.

Making a profit at the expense of people's health, what does that say about us?

Prime Minister Stephen Harper pledged to enforce the Canada Health Act during the 2006 federal election, but has now spoken out in favour of for-profit health care delivery.

There’s something about Canada’s health care system that business leaders aren’t telling you. In fact, it’s Canada’s best kept secret.
Canada’s health system, studies continue to show that public health care is more efficient, cost effective, and better for patients’ health than any private model. Contrary to what for-profit promoters would have you believe, the Canadian health care “crisis” has been largely overblown, and the solutions to Canada’s health care problems can be achieved within the public system.

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So private surgical clinics, led by Brian Day, are suing the BC government so they can charge patients for services that they, the patients, already pay for through their taxes
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But private health care is gaining a stronghold in Canada. Here are two examples.

 

  Private clinics are spreading like bad weeds across the country, welcomed by a federal government that is content to look the other way while these for-profit ventures offer health care for a price. 

March 20, 2008

As reported by CBC News on March 12th, Nova Scotia Health Minister Chris d'Entremont announced that the province agreed to sign a one-year, $1-million contract that allows surgeons with the Capital District Health Authority to use operating-room facilities in Dartmouth, N.S., owned by Scotia Surgery Inc. This private orthopedic clinic is renting its facilities out at a rate of $500 an hour for 500 publicly-paid surgeries over the next year, starting in April 2008.

UPDATE (April 16, 2008): THE CONTRACT WAS OFFICIALLY SIGNED MARCH 28TH, 2008...

This contract marks the beginning of a slippery slope towards the privatization of our health care system in Nova Scotia.  


 

The False Creek Surgical Centre in Vancouver has announced that it will open an emergency department that will charge patients a fee for medically necessary procedures. The Minister of Health has known about the proposal for months but failed to take any measures to stop it. This comes only one day after news that the Kamloops Surgical Centre is allowing patients to pay to jump the queue to see specialists. Minister Abbott was caught unaware of these developments and he has refused to crack down on other private health care schemes at the Copeman Clinic in Vancouver and the Options Clinic in Victoria.


This caused protest in 2006 in BC, but Abbott is still the Health Minister, and Liberals are still in power.

 

"Gordon Campbell has no choice but to replace Health Minister George Abbott," said James."His litany of failures, inaction and refusal to protect public health care has gone too far. In Crisis after crisis, Mr. Abbott proves to be ignorant and negligent. He needs to be held accountable for his failures to protect B.C.'s public health care system.

The decision by the provincial government to allow the Urgent Care Centre at the False Creek Surgical Centre to re-open means the debate over private health care in British Columbia is essentially over.

The Urgent Care Centre offers private medical care, pure and simple. Anyone can walk in the door, pay the requested fees and see a doctor. There is no quibbling over whether the treatment being sought is medically necessary as defined by the Canada Health Act.

B.C. Health Minister George Abbott says the clinic can operate legally under provincial statutes because it is totally outside the public system. Doctors who work there will not be billing the province. Patients will not be reimbursed by the Medical Services Plan for the fees they pay to use the clinics.






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So private surgical clinics, led by Brian Day, are suing the BC government so they can charge patients for services that they, the patients, already pay for through their taxes.....I’d love to tell you what Dr Day said, but his sidekick, Zoltan Nagy, kicked me out.


And now that privatization is a done deal in BC, corruptions and greed are starting to reveal itself, proving that it may not be such a good idea.

 
 
  No doctor should be able to practice on both sides of the medicare fence. All that would be required is a simple amendment to the Medicare Protection Act.


Counterclaims against the five Plaintiff Clinic...Here, in handy point form, are the key allegations in the Counterclaim:

1. That Cambie Surgery (Day’s outfit) and the SRC have refused to provide information or allow audit inspectors on the premises so that the Medical Services Commission can determine whether these two companies have violated the Medicare Protection Act. The goverment has asked for an injunction “restraining Cambie and SRC from hindering, molesting or interfering” with inspectors who are trying to carry out the audit. 

2. That Cambie and the SRC charged patients for services listed on invoices as “surgery”, “overnight”, “administration fee surgery”, “facility fee”, “consultation/assessment”, “surgeon’s fee”, “anaesthetic fee”, “escort services” (escort services?), and “prepayment for surgery”. These services are either fully covered under MSP or, if charges are allowed, the charges exeeded the amount permitted. The government has asked for interim and permanent injunctions restraining Cambie and the SRC from violating medicare laws.

3. That the Extra Billing Clinics, jointly and individually, “have themselves been engaged in unlawful billing practices…and also have aided, abetted, assisted, and facilitated the unlawful billing practices of others who practised in the Exra Billing Clinics or who arranged payment through or with the participation of those facilities”.  

4. The government also alleges that patients were required to sign “Acknowledgement Forms” which falsely informed patients that the services for which they were being charged were not covered under the Medical Services Plan and committed patients to forego reimbursement from MSP or any other public agency. The waivers also forced patients to agree not to file any complaint with any government body regarding the circumstances of the benefits provided by the Extra Billing Clinics. Patients also undertook” not to disclose any information to any government regarding the particulars of the beneficiary’s surgery”, including costs. If the patient does disclose, the waiver “purports to require the beneficiaries to indemnify the Extra Billing Clihic for damages and costs arising from [the] disclosure”.






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Paschen

There are several think tanks in various countries that are debating this issue at the present time.

http://my.nowpublic.com/health/ever-rising-health-care-cost-has-be-cut-now

 I do support the public system my self, however we need to wake up and realize that we can not throw money just to keep every one happy. Reality has to set in. People need to make choices. We can not keep it all as is. 

You show the issue from one site and make it sound like the government is greedy, who will pay for all this? The tax payer of course. 

I rather save in the health care system and invest into the preventive care, much cheeper in the long run and much healthier for all.

Good post.

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sara star

There is something sick about a society that makes profit on people's suffering, which privatization will most likely do. When run as a business, the dollar is the bottom line, and that is not good either.

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Paschen

Sara, I do agree that profiting from peoples suferings is wrong, However, who does not profit from it?

The Nurses and Doctors do as well, every time they ask for another pay raise they use their service need as a pressure tool, the Medical and Pharma industry does as well make a profit on the illness of people and so do the construction workers that build the hospital and maintain it.

Canadian Nurses and medical staff are among the best paid in the World, they profit as well, since they do not work out of the goodness of their hard for minimum wage.

We can not afford this sort of system any longer, that does not mean we should privatize either, but it does mean things have to change and wasting has to stop.

Preventive care is less profitable for all but it would solve a great many problems and help reduce the burden on the curative system.

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albertacowpoke

I think both of you have good points.  There are several trains of thought when it comes to health care in Canada.  Living in a small rural community in Alberta, I am reliant on South African doctors that have been brought here with great contracts and perks.  My last annual check up consisted of blood work.  He took my blood pressure and that.s all.  It made me feel real confident. 

Doctors trained in Canada increasingly chose to take up employment in the US.  So do a lot of our nurses.  Greed, perhaps, but perhaps they also see better opportunities outside of our Health Care System.  Granted, nothing is perfect, but all services have to be paid for.  In the Edmonton Capital Health Region, which has now become one Region for Alberta, several executives were given substantive bonuses on their departure. 

The system is flawed, as demonstrated by the waiting lists for surgery, MRIs, etc.  We already have a two tier system.  Have you ever seen a professional athlete wait for an MRI or surgery?  How many of the wealthy head south to get their medical needs looked after?  Many of them are our politicians, who profess to defend our Health Care system.

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albertacowpoke

Nobody is talking about going to a full private system.  In most cases, at least here in Alberta, they are talking about private providers within our public system.  The fees would still be paid by the Health Care system.  The difference is, that they would not be on the payroll of the provincial gouvernment.  Nobody is advocating to have 40 million uninsured.  Even the most conservative amongst us would rebel at that solution. 

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albertacowpoke

Sara, I agree that it is a slippery slope.  A public/private system would have to be regulated and supported by appropriate legislation.  Of course that would require that all of our politcial parties would put their bipartisan bickering aside and work out a system in the interest of Canadians (as if that would ever happen).  If it did happen though, and the regulatory system was in place, it might well take the pressure off our Health Care system.  We also need to find some incentive to keep our doctors home and to make sure there is a standard certification across the country for those doctors that enter our system form foreign lands.  I.m well aware of county hospitals in the US as well and must say despite the problems within our system,  it is far superior to many in the world.  I was in Europe about three years ago when they were discussing Health Care on German and French tv.  It is amazing how similar the problems are.  I think some of the fat could also be scanned off the bureaucracy.   Unfortunately, bureaucrats and politicians make the decisions for us. 

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Amy Judd

I have to say, I would absolutely hate to have a health care system like the US, I can't even imagine it.

Thanks for an eye-opening piece.


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eastvanray

I put more trust in the market than in the decisions of some faceless agent of the state.  We need a more efficient health care system and a little incentive-based innovation is long over due.

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Mr. Paul

It would have to be a cold day in Hell when a doctored employed by a socialist piece of crap health care system would ever be allowed administer treatment to me.  Public health care systems are expensive, wasteful of money and inefficient in practice, not to mention they are incompatible with pharmaceutical companies which do all the research.

Public Health care systems are morally corrupt.  It is outside the scope of government to administer to the public's health needs.  But does that stop whiners from continually voting people into office that will bankrupt their countries?  Not a chance...

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sara star

I have worked in hospitals in both the USA and Canada, and they both have the same level of care. The difference is everyone in Canada has access to it without losing their homes.

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Mr. Paul

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I can accept that the level of health care in Canada is an exception to the rule.  I believe it will eventually decline as the public medical system in Canada is put under higher patient loads.

However, in another country, Kazakhstan, where my friend works as the doctor/director in charge of admissions in a city with some of the best health records in the region (central asia), the several hospitals always have waiting lines going out into the streets.  The buildings are dimly lighted and do not appear as if they are often cleaned.  My friend says this is because, at at least his hospital, most of the resources that could be spent on hiring better workers or making improvements to the building and equipment are being used instead to pay unqualified doctors to treat patients for the least life threatening problems.  One example was a man whose neighbor had whistled inside his house and wanted the doctors to dispel the bad financial luck that was sure to follow because of it (this is a common superstition in some parts of the world).  The doctors had to waste their time and the time of everyone waiting to waste the doctor's time, and of course he wasted the time of those few souls who actually needed dire medical treatment.  My friend laments that his country has socialized medicine.  He had worked at a hospital in Baltimore for a few years after finishing school, and he wishes he still worked there.  He knows that the pay he receives nor the care that is given will ever be as good as it was in Baltimore because of the problems, he says, are inherent in a socialized medical system.

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Mr. Paul

I don't know what all that "Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE" business is about.  Kind of weird.

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albertacowpoke

Wether or not the level of care is the same is disputable.  I.m a patient in our system and I also see the waiting lists for surgery and other procedures.   Does our system work, the answer is yes.  Is it expensive comparably, yes it is.  The delivery of health care also varies among the provinces.  All that to say that it is the only Health Care System we have.  Can it be impoved,  I would contend it needs many improvements.  In Alberta the Nurses Union is constantly complaining about being stressed and overworked.  I also think we should have a system where some patients can be seen by nurses instead of doctors.  In most cases I would feel a lot more comfortable.  I.m sorry, but my experience as a patient has shown me that I don.t feel comfortable with our doctors, at least where I live.

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Mr. Paul

I don't know what all this "Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE" business is about.

Edit: Sorry if I'm double posting, but I think I know what the problem was, my internet is glitching rigth now.  Probably because of the crushing weight of all the socialist attrocities being committed on the internet right now ;-)

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sara star

Sometimes you don't know what you have until you lose it.

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albertacowpoke

I think we all know what we have and don't want to lose it.  That doesn't mean though that the system can't be improved.  We should all welcome a national discussion on our Health Care System without stifling it with foregone conclusions.  There are many roads that lead to Rome.  The key is to chose the road that gets us there, without losing what we have.   In regards to Cambrie, the government should hit them with all the tools available and if they violated the Canada Health Act they should be charged, convicted and closed down.

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