deists against religions
Islam is a violent religion. Please view the rational/balanced video at:
The Qur'an is a fantasy:
Paul created Christ:
.. what else .. ;)
Before i continue, i need to discuss something beautiful that happened here the other day. i was here (except with a shirt on - out of respect for the sister) applying to jobs, when my mother's 'favorite sister' came by to give her communion. The sister's driver was also here (she does not drive) and is also a sweet/good friend to mom. You know, i 'denigrate' religions left and right, but the goodwill and kindness was palpable (some might say sickeningly palpable;) .. and for a brief moment, this livingroom was blessed .. So i rail against religions, but sometimes they have their moments .. Too bad this is not on a continuous basis with all religions.. 8|
The link just above is a humorous attack on Christmas .. i really wish i could garner the support of atheists - i believe our sentiments are essentially 'on the same side' of the fence .. i rabidly HATE commercialization / materialists / insane deists (like Paul) twisting something good into something bad. Jesus, for example, called himself the "son of man" NOT the "son of God". It was Paul who created Christianity 'out of the blue' - the first Christian evangelist - the first true Christian (one who deified Jesus). When are we gonna wake up and stop deifying the messenger and pay more attention to the message?
i call on all atheists to support this story/essay because our objectives are one-in-the-same: stop the insane deification of the freaking messenger. You guys go a step further and want to stop deification period. But this is like throwing out the baby with the bathwater - it's essentially counterproductive and in my opinion, wrong. Many many Christians, Muslims, Jews,.. would be on your side if you relaxed your position somewhat. If you allowed for the possibility of God (can you prove God does not exist?), you'd allow many many people to join your cause.
.. i believe i have derived the first scientific proof of God's existence (see WfM) but let's discuss a more common argument surrounding it ..
1. If God existed, we wouldn't have suffering (since God would Care)
2. If God existed, we'd have unequivocal proof
Before i may list out any more, let's deal with these first. 1. We have suffering because we're freaking idiots: we shit and live in the same place - what idiot does this except man? It's our fault we suffer because we created this shithole from paradise .. (As a side note, God Cares but what would we learn if God bailed us out every time someone shit on the dinner-table? (Which is essentially what we do when we: invade another country, exploit cheap labor,..)) 2. We do have many proofs of God's existence: Mozart, Michelangelo, dolphin sonar, human brain, WfM,.. what more do you want? Look up at the stars on a clear moon-less night and try to explain that without God .. Conventional physics? They're all FOS and present nothing reasonable/rational.
Atheists should wake up and realize the burden is on them to provide reasonable evidence God does not exist (not depending on conventional physics) - or - admit the possibility of God .. Essentially they need to show every evidence mentioned above (and more) is wrong and why. Essentially they need to prove it was not God behind Mozart, Michelangelo, dolphin sonar, human brain, and WfM .. Since Mozart and Michelangelo are dead, dolphins and humans were 'created by evolution' (something we cannot verify), let's just state something simpler: atheists, prove WfM is wrong (in every respect), or concede it's right.
i challenge both atheists and deists to prove WfM wrong.
.. the cool thing about WfM, if it's correct, brings us all together: atheists, deists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus,.. in a way never quite done before .. And i say again: what better present for our 'coming of age' (in terms of human civilization)? ^^ 8)