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Even Good Food Has Carcinogens
Yes, even good food has carcinogens. Should we be concerned? I suggest you check out that video. Ames discovered that food additives caused mutations, but that natural foods were even more mutagenic.
Now, that, my friends, is real science.
Speaking of worldviews, well, let's just say that the Platonic worldview, the one that posits an ideal form to everything and it is our job to remove the error to embody the ideal, is not quite right.
That is the problem. For example, pharmacos is a Greek word for toxins, poisons used to heal. Food is more complex than is commonly understood. What stresses us may be good for us in a certain measure.
The essay below is a synopsis of a long article in Science magazine from the 1980s that would be too long to reproduce here. The summarizing essay and the long article were both in Pearson and Shaw's Life Extension Companion. Let me explain the point of why I have posted this.
There is an article here about the carcinogens in fried potatoes, well-intentioned, but I am of the opinion that it is premised on the idea that the "good food" doesn't have carcinogens and the "bad food" has carcinogens. Once you discover a carcinogen- that is it! You don't eat that food. You only eat the "good foods". Very Platonic!
It is not that simple. In practice, there are no good foods. There are only better foods and worse foods.
Reading through the long article, it seems that basically all foods have carcinogens, or have them after you cook them, or have them after the ordinary process of digestion has been underway. Hey, and that includes all rabbit food and veggie fare as well.
Now I don't eat fried potatoes because of their fat content, but if I wanted to eat them, I wouldn't let that carcinogen stop me.
Alcohol is far more carcinogenic. I continue to drink, though, less than five drinks a week, and I take a lot of anti-oxidants that can neutralize the carcinogenic by-products of alcohol.
Wine is a combination of carcinogens, alcohol, for example, and anti-carcinogens such as resveratrol.
So, food, even good food, contains carcinogens. What you want to eat is a lot more anti-carcinogens on balance. I will follow up on this with some more information about diet and nutrition, the aging process and how supplements can contribute to well-being in the here and now as well as postpone the worst aspects of aging.
"In this issue of Science, Bruce Ames reviews the increasing body of evidence that large numbers of potent carcinogens arise from natural processes. Mutagens are present in substantial quantities in fruits and vegetables. Carcinogens are formed in cooking as a result of reactions involving proteins or fats. Dietary practices may be an important determinant of current cancer risks.
Ames describes the role of plant materials as follows: Plants in nature synthesize toxic chemicals in large amounts, apparently as a primary defense against the hordes of bacterial, fungal, and insect and other animal predators.
Plants in the human diet are no exception.
The variety of toxic chemicals is so great that organic chemists have been characterizing them for over 100 years, and new plant chemicals are still being discovered. Recent widespread use of short-term tests for detecting mutagens and the increased testing of plant substances for carcinogenicity in animals have contributed to the identification of many natural mutagens, teratogens, and carcinogens in the human diet.
Safrole and related compounds are present in many edible plants. Safrole is a carcinogen in rodents and some of its metabolites are mutagens. Oil of sassafras, once used to flavor some root beer, is about 75 percent safrole. Black pepper contains about 10 percent by weight of a closely related compound, piperine. Extracts of black pepper at a dose equivalent to 4 milligrams of dried pepper per day cause tumors in mice at many sites.
Many hydrazines are carcinogens and mutagens, and large amounts of them are found in edible mushrooms. One carcinogenic hydrazine is present in the false morel at a concentration of 50 milligrams per 100 grams. It causes lung tumors in mice at a level of 20 micrograms per mouse per day.
Carcinogens and mutagens are present in mold-contaminated foods such as corn, nuts, peanut butter, bread, cheese, and fruit. Some of these contaminants, such as aflatoxin, are among the most potent known carcinogens and mutagens. Nitrosamines and nitroso compounds are suspect as causative agents of stomach and esophageal cancer in humans. In the digestive system these nitrogen compounds are formed from nitrate and nitrite.
Beets, celery, lettuce, spinach, radishes, and rhubarb all contain about 200 milligrams of nitrate per 100-gram portion.
Rancid fats are possible causative agents of colon and breast cancer in humans. These forms account for a substantial fraction of all the cancer deaths in the United States. Poly-unsaturated fats are easily oxidized on standing and in cooking to form mutagens, promoters, and carcinogens. Among the numerous products of such oxidations are fatty acid hydroperoxides and cholesterol epoxide. Thus the colon and digestive tract are exposed to many fat-derived carcinogens. Human breast fluid can contain high levels of cholesterol epoxide.
Burnt and browned materials formed by heating proteins during cooking are highly mutagenic. Chemicals isolated from such products have been found to be carcinogenic when fed to rodents. In addition, the browning reaction products from caramelization of sugars or the reaction of amino acids and sugars during cooking contain a large variety of DNA-damaging agents.
The view that dietary practices might be a causative factor in cancer is not new.
Epidemiologists have noted marked differences in cancer rates between population groups.
Effects from changes in diet following migration have also been observed. Results of current studies are beginning to delineate more sharply specific causative agents. When more definitive information is available, it should be possible for prudent people to choose fruits and vegetables that present minimal hazards. In the meantime, there is persuasive evidence that charred meats and rancid fats should not be part of the diet.
—Philip H. Abelson"
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Most RecentMost Recommended Comments (31)
at 21:06 on February 22nd, 2009
You can not let every single report of possible danger stop you from enjoying the little things in life and by the same token, anything in excess is bad for you, even water. Good report. Thank you.
at 11:11 on February 23rd, 2009
Thanks for bringing this up. Very interesting angle. I was taught in my biochemistry classes that even water can be a mutagen as it has the potential to produce radical oxygen particles under certain conditions. When it comes to nutrition, there is such thing as moderation, however. Consumption of food in small quantities will limit the amount of free radicals in one's system, allowing natural anti-oxidants that we also consume in our food to neutralize the free radicals to a sufficient degree before they do any cellular or DNA damage.
at 11:16 on February 23rd, 2009
Thanks for the post. I thought that Ames made the best case pointing out that pesticides were less mutagenic than a lot of foods.
We ask for science and then we don't listen to the results because revising our opinions takes a lot of emotional work.
The intellectual work is easy and has been done for us.
Another example: DDT was supposed to have caused eagles' egg shells to thin, which accounted for the weak eggs and the dead offspring.
I just accepted that as fact because I assumed that idea had been tested. When it got tested, though, when DDT was put in eagles' food in a lab, the eggshells didn't thin.
Meanwhile millions die of malaria because DDT has been banned. Rachel Carson made it up.
at 20:23 on February 23rd, 2009
Thank You.
at 20:51 on February 23rd, 2009
Like Rosann RoseAnnaDanna once said, "its always something"!
at 10:25 on February 25th, 2009
It seems everything is dangerous to your health.
Sorry for the delay in commenting. I am in the process of moving. I will be back on regularly by 5 March.
at 10:27 on February 25th, 2009
Is everything bad for our health?
Sorry for the delay in commenting. I am in the process of moving. I will be back on regularly by 5 March.
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at 11:51 on February 26th, 2009
We are all going to die. I say, eat the food you like in moderation, get some exercize and spend less time trying to "perfect" life.
at 10:00 on March 11th, 2009
You speak of "natural" food.
There is ongoing debate in the food industry as to what is going to define "natural".
Does natural mean "organic" here?
There is a huge difference between organic and natural. It's really sort of ridiculous to have to use these definitions, but many companies are advertising their products as being "natural".
People can actually die from an overdose of water!
Yup, everything in moderation.
at 17:22 on April 6th, 2009
OMG What can we eat that is safe. this is facinating we certainly do learn something new every day. Am gonny stop delibertly burning ma toast now.
at 20:07 on April 8th, 2009
Good one, Roy. Still reading.........
at 07:07 on April 14th, 2009
The public is still reading your story.... some are timeless.
I never thought about this one, so I asked "my higher self".... (talk about scientific study).
The answer:
We all have cancer cells, our immune system is capable of getting rid of them. There is just a breaking point, where it no longer can do this. It happens when the assault is too great. This point is different for everyone, depending on how strong the immune system is.
The question is how do we increase our immunity? This is my story.
at 06:45 on April 14th, 2009
Maybe there are good and bad carcinogens, like bacteria.... There is so much we don't know. Sometimes I think we still live in the dark ages.
at 07:46 on April 14th, 2009
thanks for all the new posts.
at 20:24 on April 30th, 2009
This is a fact! Lots of microorganisms inhabit on foods that are exposed. Well there are some ways to prevent for exposure to this harmful unseen organism by means of proper isolation. Toxic assets, toxic swine flu, and so on, but the word have been popping up more than would seem normal. The word itself comes from the Greek, referring to poison that archers would dip their arrows into. (Etymologies are so cool, if you're into that sort of thing.) Right now, toxic is the state of unemployment. Job hunting is going on at a massive scale; people are clamoring for job interviews, in the hope that they can secure employment. It's good to look professional and update the resume if you're trying to find new work. Personal loans are vastly inferior to wage income and an end to toxic.
at 22:05 on May 5th, 2009
Good post And interesting too.
at 08:15 on May 8th, 2009
Dettol and rust are also carcinogen.
at 05:32 on May 31st, 2009
Very interesting. Our immune system is built for the task of fighting such toxins. However, if the amount is too great or too potent, it could do nothing about its malevolence. That's why moderating is always up to us, so we could steer clear of the hazards that food and even water could bring.
at 10:45 on May 31st, 2009
Thank you for this, it makes interesting reading. That last part is especially relevant, now that the barbeque season is upon us.
We are hunter-gather omnivores, biologically speaking, so setting fire to our food and growing it are relatively new things for our bodies to adapt to.
I guess these toxins in plants could be helpfull in the begnign mutation of species as well as the harmfull ones. They may even be the key to the genetic differences. Who knows?
at 15:33 on May 31st, 2009
Very interesting, thank you for this
at 06:53 on June 1st, 2009
It is concerning to know that even veggies have carcinogens. But its always up to us to prevent its malevolence by taking each food in moderation. Great read, thanks!
at 05:59 on June 10th, 2009
So does it then mean that there are no really good foods? Very concerning. I'll definitely keep my eyes on this study and see how it pans out.
at 07:53 on June 12th, 2009
Can't believe in this, in planning out diets we always try to look at the ingredients and what's actually in them, thanks for the post, really eye opening.
at 22:46 on June 16th, 2009
Well thanks for such a nice post.this is really an eye opener... get up people check out your diets...
at 02:27 on June 19th, 2009
i don't think all the foods can give us bad effects, cause they say if we eat vegetables, they are good for our health and they can give nutrients and provide some health to our body, but i'm sure this foods are those with pesticides and not harvested with good condition.
at 05:43 on June 23rd, 2009
lol
at 05:44 on June 23rd, 2009
lmao noob
at 01:43 on July 9th, 2009
balance, balance, balance. We have to know how to balance the carcinogens inside the body and how to cook better, I guess.
at 08:53 on July 11th, 2009
We all have cancer cells, our immune system is capable of getting rid of them. There is just a breaking point, where it no longer can do this. It happens when the assault is too great. This point is different for everyone, depending on how strong the immune system is.
at 17:46 on July 11th, 2009
This is truly an eye-opener. People nowadays are starting to be health-conscious and lead a healthy lifestyle. Thus is very informative for everyone to let them know that we don't just acquire carcinogens through food labeled as "bad" food. The bottomline here is to be well-equipped with proper knowledge on the food that we take.