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Obama Woos Doctors on Health Care Reform - Consider the VA
The New York Times is reporting on Today's speech to The American Medical Association (AMA) on Government Health Care Reform. Many appear skeptical over the Government intervention on any front these days. One should look at past and present take overs by the government and review the success rates of each. Many consider Veterans medical care as an example of what Obama-care would look like. The Military Medical insurance systems as well as the Veterans health care turned to Quantity of care rather then Quality of care as a matter of record in the early 90s. The auto take overs should look at AMTRAK and the Banks should look at Government accounting. Many as does this writer has reservations on the Governments ability to do anything at responsible costs of efficiently. The old saw goes, "How can one manage a million when one can't manage a hundred"
WASHINGTON — President Obama took his health care overhaul proposal to one of its more skeptical audiences, telling doctors at the American Medical Association conference in Chicago that the United States is “not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children.”
Mr. Obama’s much-anticipated address appeared carefully calibrated to woo doctors to support — or at least, to not actively oppose — his sweeping health proposals. He also sought to reassure doctors who are skittish about his proposal for a government-run insurance plan as one option from which consumers could choose.
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at 17:18 on June 15th, 2009
Bloomberg reports that this Health Care Reform will take 600 Billion in additional taxes and Obama is already shifting 500 Billion from Medicare and Medicaid.
One should look at this with skepticism. There are many examples of Universal Health Care around the world. None of them are perfect but are workable. The danger here is that this is Health Care Reform without a lot of thought. President Obama wants a bill on his desk by July 31st.
Health Care in Canada is administered by the Provinces and what it delivers is slightly different in each jurisdiction. Basic Health Care is mandated by the Canada Health Act.
Just today there was a newsclip on local Alberta news that accused the Alberta Government of having a hiring freeze on nurses. The nurses union vowed to vigorously fight the Alberta Government.
Since the beginning of this year they have taken sex change surgery off the eligibility list. Recently they revamped benefits for Seniors and the list will go on and on.
My point is to carefully study health care, implement the good and first and foremost let the States administer it.
at 19:17 on June 15th, 2009
Thanks for your comments and insight that I do not have into the Canadian system of Healthcare. It is not my intention to cut down any other countries system. Those receiving the services are best prepared to comment on them.
What I do know about is the VA system. I am a former provider of Govt Healthcare through the Army Med Corps and the Department of Veterans Affairs. I am a 100% disabled Veteran who uses the system. The two systems do some wonderful things and have excelled in certain areas. At the same time the system has some portions that are seriously broken. Since the Government can't seem to excel in a large portion of the components of healthcare, I agree with you that congress should think this thing through.
Government health care has never been cheap and it has focused on quantity of care rather then quality of care. I can't blame them for the this as tax dollars where not there to provide quality of care. Folks who have medical insurance and can get other healthcare services as needed will use the services of others rather then the govt system.
at 19:30 on June 15th, 2009
I agree with you. When it comes to tax dollars it boils down to priorities and those are not necessarily those of the people. In Canada we passed the Veterans Act last year and it has led to some improvements in Veteran Care. With the emergence of PTSD or should I say PTSD is now understood as a real disability expenses have risen substantially. Afghanistan, Bosnia and other troublespots that Canadian troops have been exposed to has increased those that are disabled by PTSD.
at 21:36 on June 15th, 2009
what we need here in USA is a 100% free health care system 100% funded by the drug companies who make one of the largest profits...
at 11:50 on June 17th, 2009
I used to work for a MAJOR drug company. I was barely getting by. I also knew lots of scientists and researchers in the company labs who were not doing so well financially. They're looking to give up their hard earned degrees and go into selling real estate to feed their families.
The populist view is go after the drug companies with pitchforks and torches without thinking about the people who work for those companies and are not making the big $$$.
I also know of doctors who quit medicine because all the heavy government regulations have made it hard for them to make a living. They've gone into the sales force instead to make a living.
Yeah, FREE medical care sounds great. What is really means is over-worked, under-paid medical workers who will flee this country to go where they can make a good return on their years of hard-earned medical school degrees. What will be left are the doctors who couldn't make it in the real world. I wouldn't even want them caring for my dog!
at 09:08 on August 9th, 2009
The AMA does not represent practicing physicians. Look at their membership numbers, subtract out the medical students & resident physicians & compare that with number of physicians. You'll find a rather non-representative group comprising about 17% of actual practicing physicians. And they are losing membership over this position supporting healthcare "reform" in a big way.
The public option will reduce all anesthesia reimbursement to the medicare rates (approximately 35% of what is actually charged for anesthesia care). Inasmuch as I already feel undercompensated for the amount of immediate (& I do mean IMMEDIATE) life and death responsibility I take on, the fact I have lots of liquid assets (moved to Switzerland already), and no mortgage (I never bought a house 'cause I thought the prices were ridiculous), The toyota prius is paid off & I usually get around town on a vespa, also paid for --- you see, I'm actually doing something about global warming rather than driving around in a limo called "the beast" & just talking about it. I, for one, will quit medicine to manage my money full time (i.e., trade for a living). It's clear there is no incentive to be a physician, and I certainly don't want an income high enough to be considered "rich" by this administration.
Doctors are rather intelligent folks as a group (at least the ones practicing today --- that may change!), and intelligent people will always have options. If you need an anesthetic, I've heard Michael Jackson's cardiologist is looking for a job.
at 18:29 on August 22nd, 2009
I think Dworkin in his WSJ opionion piece erred in how he tried to explain the sociologic changes that have happened to the medical profession over the last few decades. His analogies made it too easy to digress onto issues addressed everywhere else and ignore and important message that needs to be conveyed regarding my little understood specialty of Anesthesiology. People just don't know that their best friend in the operating room and labor suite is being accidentally "thrown under the bus" as part of the larger health care reform rush. A 60% income drop will be devastating to not only the profession but to patient safety well into the future.Anesthesiology is a difficult specialty for which to create quality practitioners. Merely having someone dedicated to caring about people is not enough. They also must be physically dexterous and mentally very quick. We use our experience as physicians to plot a course that minimizes risk and discomfort for each patient's medical condition. Our time frame for anticipating, preventing, recognizing and acting upon problems is in seconds. Even worse, critical situations occur suddenly out of nowhere. We work long hours at a task which requires continual diligence even if things seem routine. A mediocre practioner is fine when nothing is happening, but you cannot predict that things will remain routine. Judgement, skill and experience take a long time to develop. I would estimate it takes five or more years AFTER residency for a new anesthesiologist to see enough critical events to build a seasoned repertoire of responses. Before that, you're relying on training combined with the person being much brighter than average to keep you out of trouble. You cannot replace good anesthesiologists quickly and you cannot get good ones unless they are adequately paid relative to other specialities and professions.It wasn't long ago that anesthesiology was an undesirable "back water" specialty. It paid poorly and that meant you didn't attract the most capable graduates into the speciality. Medical students, choose a specialty that matches their personality and provides a good quality of life for their work. When incomes improved, there was an influx of the higher quality trainees. Those are the practitioners you enjoy today.The proposed degree of income reduction, perhaps 60%, would be devastating. Those talented individuals who invested an entire life of superlative educational effort and professional training would be asked to lose their homes, drastically curtail their children's education, and work harder for less pay. And as Dworkin alluded, physicians no longer enjoy a sense of being well valued in society. We get satisfaction for relieving pain, but in terms of return for effort we're essentially piece workers. Yes, you usually get paid by the case. How many people who are talented and bright would keep on delivering a superlative effort in a specialty that saw such an income cut, demanded more work, and further diminished their social standing? A medical student will give up 12 years of their life in preparing to become a novice physician. It isn't enough to just feel a "calling." There has to be sufficient recompense to make so onerous an initiation and life remain worthwhile to tomorrow's care givers. From the outside it may seem a "cushy" life, but it is not. Anesthesiologists face extreme stress every day. We work long hours. We work 24 hour shifts. We do it under the never ending pressure that it has to be perfect each and every time. There are no second chances. You'd be a complete fool to do it for just money. You'd burn out very quickly. A strong degree of dedication to excellence and patient care is also needed to sustain one through the anesthesiology career path. Cut reimbursements by 60% and most of your anesthesiologists, THE person dedicated to watching over you in the operating room, will lose their homes, be unable to send their kids through higher education, and have their life calling of helping others become a bitter lot in life. The best won't enter the field and you'll lose many already in it. In short, you shift the balance towards mediocrity. "Medical excellence every day" becomes "Medical ADEQUACY every day"I'm glad Dworkin spoke up. He raised a warning that needs to be addressed before patients get injured. Retirement of some of our most experienced anesthesiologists would be an early effect. Those in the middle of their careers will lose their homes and look hard at what other options they have. They are bright people and no degree of personal "calling" assuages a capriciously legislated inability to pay the mortgage and bills. Yes, anesthesiologists are better paid than the average person, but they work in a field that requires superlative personnel each and every time. Do YOU really want a cheapest person possible to keep you alive and whole? This is a terrible situation being brewed. Anesthesiology is a tiny specialty. It does not have enough numbers to wield the political clout to avoid being incidentally destroyed. We're potentially falling off a precipice that will hurt you the patient, demoralize today's practitioners, and cut off tomorrow's generation of anesthetic excellence. Dworkin does not get it all right, but I thank him for raising his hand. Anesthesiology and our patients need all the help we can get to help policy makers realize how bad this side effect will be.Guy Kuo, MD