Obama's Food Police HR 875

by CynicalPatriot | April 9, 2009 at 03:22 pm
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THE OBAMA FOOD POLICE...H.R.875 NEW BILL BEING PASSED!!!

IS THIS THE CHANGE YOU THOUGHT HE PROMISED?

THERE ARE MANY LAWS BEING PASSED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN THE WHITE HOUSE! ONE OF THE MOST HEINOUS IS CALLED H.R.875 PLEASE GOOGLE THIS AND LEARN FOR YOURSELF. IT IS A BILL THAT WILL MAKE GROWING YOUR OWN FOOD ILLEGAL UNLESS WE BUY IN TO THE NEW FEDERALLY MANDATED LAWS CONCERNING PESTICIDES AND FERTILIZERS. THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS FOR THIS BILL ARE SO VAGUE THAT IT WILL MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY SMALL FARMER OR BACK YARD GARDENER TO GROW FOOD WITHOUT USING THE NEW FEDERAL LAWS FOR FOOD PRODUCTION. THERE WILL BE BIG FINES AND ALSO YOU CAN LOSE YOUR LAND BY SEIZURE. PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME TO START GETTING EDUCATED ABOUT WHAT OUR OWN GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO DO TO US

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dfndr13

Interesting.  I don't see President Obama's name anywhere on the bill.  Perhaps you should take a closer look.

While you're doing that, venture over to this site that has the facts versus myths of the bill:

http://www.lavidalocavore.org/diary/1329/

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CynicalPatriot

How can you tell when a politician is lying? Their lips are moving?

It seems to me that you are an Obamaphile? It seems therefore that you have bought into the proganda and pablum that the 2 major political parties use to have us all chasing our own tails over abortion and gun control while they steal us blind aka bank bailout and spending bill aka stimulus aka pork redistribution.

And just so you know know i am not anti Obama, I am anti corrupt politician:

http://delicious.com/DonMashakPoliticsElectionVoterParadigmShift

http://www.squidoo.com/USA_VOTERS_VOTE_NO_TO_GOVERNMENT_CORRUPTION_THIS_ELECTION

http://donmashakspoliticalponderings.blogspot.com/2009/04/big-brother-wants-to-keep-your-babys.html

http://donmashakschallengetouspoliticalparty.blogspot.com/2009/04/don-mashaks-ethical-challenge-to-usa.html

http://bankbailoutblog.wordpress.com/

Obama said no lobbyist in the white house and no more pork barreling earmarks.

Lying bastard politician. I presume you will not challenge the factual basis for referencing him like that.

Who do you think puts those letters and words on the teleprompter?

Why can't he speak extemporaniously?  It is because the thoughts are not his ownand if he speaks from the hip he commits policy faupax's. Take a bow President Obama.

Now to the food police.  First Credentials, I grew up on a diary farm and keep honeybees as a source of second income.  What are your agricultural credentials?

Perhaps you need to ask the Native American Indians about the USA Government keeping its word and not being duplicitous.  Are you high, drunk, stupid, naive or a willing sycophant of the corrupt politicians... Wake up and come to your senses.  They are all crooks?  Either from the start or seduced over time.

Next, look at all the rezoning of all the Agricultural status being removed from land plots less than 5 or 10 acres, depending on the state.   They removed the ag status of my 5 acres though i keep colonies of bees all over the county.  Did you know that honeybees have been hit by a disease with a 50% mortality rate? Did you know that 35% of the food you eat depends on honeybess? My real estate taxes went up $500.00 per year.  What small organic farmer can absorb a $500.00 increase in taxes ?  Oh, they forgot to tell you about that little policy change, did they?

Now lets talk about that Bovine Growth Hormone RBGH, that they use on cows to increase milk production....  The large commerical farms wanted to use it. They said it was safe and does not pass through the cow to the cows milk... Bullshit.  I do not know how much milk I dumped when I was on the farm because a cow was treated with Triple Sulpha, Penicyllan and other medications.  For 48 to 72 hours after treatment the milk was not considered fit for human consumption because the medicines got in the milk....   Now those were artificial chemicals; BGH is a substance that occurs naturally in the cow.  And you would think that natural selection would give an advantage to cows whose milk contained BGH so the calves got bigger, self-sufficient sooner and not vulnerable to predators earlier... So what do you think, is BGH more likely or less likely to get into cows milk?  No wonder girls are entering puberty and having kids at 9 years old...  Do you think any scientists and politicians got money under the table to slide this poisoning of our children through?  Is that a close enough look of the facts vs myth for you?

And lastly, I live in Minnesota.  Here is how the lying corrupt politicians slipped that seatbelt stuff into law against the will of the people.  1st they said it would just be a warning ticket with no fine nor effect on your insurance.  Then they said they needed an administrative fine after a few years to offset the cost.  Then they said it should just be a regular fine after a few more years.  And now it is a fine and affects your insurance.  This is known as the Slippery Slope?  They get this bit passed and the its tenticles and roots spread and grow year after year.  The new citizens dont know the way it use to be and the ones that know, eventually die off...  Thank your public schools for not keeping the old knowledge alive.

So please, dont comment on anything until you have matured enought to realize the true realities of the world we live in, and don't comment on stuff you don't know beans about.

This NAIS stuff is just the beginning of the slippery slope to let big brother into back yard gardens and hobby and organic farms as well as all other food production.

We need less government, not more government?

Have a great day in your fantasy world...

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dfndr13

All I did was point out that Obama's name is not attached to that bill in any way.

I also took the original poster up on their request to google the bill for more information.

I posted the web page that had a list of fact versus myth.  Interestingly, you didn't comment on any of those fact versus myth bullet points.

I didn't comment on anything I didn't know beans about, I mearly provided more information for people who are interested in learning.  Did you have anything to contribute to a discussion on the bill?

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CynicalPatriot

As for addresssing your purported facts, what part of proganda and pablum and corrupt politicians and spin do you not understand. What part of "lying bastards" and lying whenever their lips move don't you get.  What part of talk to me when you decide to leave fantasy land do you not understand...

As for Obaman not being involved, have your savior Obami send me a letter that he opposes it, and i will begin to listen to your protests that he does not....

The democrats implement programs and spending that will get them reelected and lobbyist money when they are in power. And the Republicans do the same thing when they are in power.  . Those things are not usually in the best interests of the country or the general public. 

We are suppose to live in a Republic, though some think it is a Democracy.

In Reality we live in a Plutocracy, Government by the highest bidder.

WITH ALL THAT SAID, IT IS TIME TO STOP THINK DEMOCRAT VS REPUBLICAN AND START THINKING AVERAGE VOTER VS CORRUPT POLITICIAN.

Each major party is stealing us blind and diverting our attention with other issues like abortion and gun control to divert our attention; like the man behind the curtain in the wizard of Oz.

As for further comment on the bill, I have 2... First, thus begins the slippery slope; Do you remember when Social Security started and was supposed to be a seperate fund?  And now it gets poured into the general fund, Is that clear enough for you. Second, the old adage, We are from the Government and we are here to help you?

You want to say that you read something about legislation about agriculture and food processing and therefore you are an expert.  I lived the life.  I told you about the government telling us that Bovine Growth Hormone was not harmless and you were not moved to care. If you dont know about agriculture and you dont care about salient points that i make based on my personal experience, their is no point in debating the issue.  No thank you very much. i could have easily block you from commenting, but I thought we could have a discussion about the important real issues not the exchange of dogma. 

I told you about Bovine growth hormone affecting our kids and the seat belt law.  Maybe you have heard about the chemicals leaching from the plastic into the contents, some causing cancer and some simulating human hormones.  How can you not figure out that your governmetn lies to you?

When I did believe the propaganda and pablum of the 2 major political parties and was asked by others about how to vote I would reply; If you think you can take care for yourself and want less government, vote republican;  If you think you need and want the help of Government, vote Democrat...

I want less government no more government.  All the beaurcracies they create just cost more tax money and erode our liberties. Are you some kind of fool to want them to raise your taxes and give them more power to subvert our liberties?

My arguements are not at the level of debating any individual issue except to use them as proof that a bigger problem exists; The systemic corruption of our Government.

<a href=http://donmashakschallengetouspoliticalparty.blogspot.com/2009/04/what-if-they-are-all-corrupt.html tagged="_blank"> What if they are all Corrupt?</a>

 <a href="http://www.vote-no.us" tagged="_blank">Are you happy?</a>

<a href="http://digg.com/business_finance/Del_icio_us_Don_Mashak_URL_s_of_Interest" tagged="_blank">Yours Truly,

Don - The Cynical Patriot </a>

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dfndr13

"You want to say that you read something about legislation about agriculture and food processing and therefore you are an expert."

I never said this, you apparently assumed it.  Do you know the old adage about assuming?

I actually agree with you about stopping people from thinking Democratic versus Republican.  It would be interesting to see how much more would get done if people voted their conscience instead of their party's line.  I am not an Obamaphile, but I think we ought to give the guy a chance before we start to bash him. 

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CynicalPatriot

I inferred, as opposed to assumed, that you were holding yourself as an expert by the following excerpt of yours "

"I posted the web page that had a list of fact versus myth.  Interestingly, you didn't comment on any of those fact versus myth bullet points. I didn't comment on anything I didn't know beans about, I mearly provided more information for people who are interested in learning.  Did you have anything to contribute to a discussion on the bill?"

You do not say someone elses webpage, you refer to facts vs myth, by your grammar and context, I infer from that that you know enough, (i.e. expert) to know that the article you cite is a true and factual list of fact vs myth.  In fact, you say "provided information for people who are interested in learning" You placed no disclaimers on the validity of the the alleged facts and myths.  You challenged me to comment on this list of alleged fact and myth as though it was the final authority and for you to have made your judgement that it was the final authority, you yourself must be an expert on the truth and fiction of the points contained therein... You offerred that article in proof of your points and in contradiction to what i had written.

And, unless you are prone to non-sequitor thinking you must agree with the article you challenged me to comment on and to agree with the article you must be sufficiently knowledgeable (expert) of the subject matter to deem it a credible challenge to my position on the matter.  Remember the article regards food production and Agriculture... Remember me the Dairy Farm kid that just told you about the specific horror of Bovine Growth Hormone...

NOW LET US TONE THIS DOWN A BIT:

With regard to Obama, the Savior....What follows is something I wrote before Obama was elected... 

Is Obama black enough to be a exopresent Black male and therefor suffer rejection by the African American vote

Before the election, I was torn between abandoning the Republian Party and voting for a 3rd party candidate.  I decided to back John McCain because he said he was going to toss out the lobbyist and restore the goverment to the people rather continue with Government by the highest bidder.  I made this decision based on 2 acts of character that John McCain displayed....1) He would not leave the Vietnam POW camp before those POW's that came before him even though that was protocol for sons of Military commanders (I believe his dad was a admiral) The man arrived in prison with 2 broken arms that were never properly treated To this day he can not raise his hands above his head.  That is a test of high moral character that I do not know if I could even pass.. 2) He did not change his position on the Iraq war a year before the election when everyone else was.  Regardless of whether you are for or against that war, if you are being honest with yourself, it was a strong showing of character not to vascilate on the issue and instead say, "I would rather lose an election, than lose a war. NOW, YOU WILL HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT BUT I VOWED IF MCCAIN WAS ELECTED AND DID NOT KEEP HIS WORD TO WEED OUT THE CORRUPTION, I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR EITHER OF THE CURRENT 2 MAJOR US POLITICAL PARTIES EVER AGAIN.  AND I MEANT IT.

Further,  if you are still being honest with yourself, you recognize that Obama has broken two major campaign promises already; NO LOBBYIST IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND NO EARMARKS.  These promises have been thrown to the wind and/or made excuses for.

I DO NOT WANT THE MAN TO FAIL IN KEEPING AMERICA FROM COLLAPSING.  But he is not fighting the special interests and corruption and he is spending money like a drunken sailor on shore leave. I THINK THE USA IS TETERING ON THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE WITH THE BARBARIANS WAITING AT THE GATE. We can't afford to have Obama fail?  There is no room nor cushion for further failure.

Now, regarding how people decide to vote for who: I don't think people are voting their conscience.  I think the 2 major political parties have cast the election in the flavor of abortion vs gun control and rich vs poor, etc... I think it is a deliberate charade to give the impression of a political revolution by changing the parties rather than have an actual violent revolution.  Peoples attention and energy gets focussed on the election and when they are unhappy they vote against whoever made them unhappy. Regardless of who wins the Plutocrats are still running the show.

And then I get to read stuff like this....

Click Here and Scroll down the page - read INSIDER ALERT 80 THOUSAND TROOPS SET ASIDE FOR DOMESTIC EMERGENCIES

Thank god for second Admendment rights.

Have a great day!


Your Freind,

Don - The Cynical Patriot

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CynicalPatriot

Food Police Raid Organic Farm - Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdLxMKuxyr4

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