Planned Parenthood says Give the Gift of Abortion for Christmas

Thanks for the comment

Viva female reproductive rights. If you want mass murder just elect a conservative. 

George Carlin: 

"Boy these conservatives are really something aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born you're on your own...Pro life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to 9 months. After that they dont want to know about you. They dont want to hear about you. No nothing! No neo-natal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch,  no food stamps, no welfare...no nothing. If you're pre born you're fine...Pre-school you're F$%#ed. Conservatives dont give a S@$t about you until you reach military age. Then they think you are just fine, just what they've been looking for. Conservatives want lives babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers." George Carlin.

Rhonda,

I was once a pro-life pro death penalty.  Following research, I noticed that the scales of justice are not blind.  Too many people of color, poor, and others are on death row... where the rich seem to have an acquittal rate above the norms.  I took a head look at this as I was deep GOP.  I began departing from many GOP stances in this regard as those sales should be blind and the scale should not be tilted by money.  I am now against the death penalty until the justice system can show that black,  white, indian, and asians all have the same outcomes based on evidence.

I guess to Kill a Mockingbird had an effect on me.  

Since our government passes from the people to the Govt.  If one innicient man dies it is on my sholdiers.

No one has attacked the credentials of the workers at PP.  Their are other groups who provide services for free as well.

Barbara I'm not for or against abortion, but I am a supporter of a woman's right to choose because other wise we would return to those dark days of back street abortions when many women died or became infected, and then died.

Some of these same Christians have also supported the killings in Iraq and Afghanistan which far out number the number of terminations. The same Christians who support the death penalty. A very confusing picture.

Although I find an abortion gift certificate a bit our of line I, like you Barbara, Ido think that women have the right to chose. Not everyone gets pregnant in a loving way, for instance. There are so many women in this world who get pregnant as a result of rape or incest. I find it personally inhumane to force these women to carry the fruit of violence, as it disables them from coming to terms with what happened to them. And what about the child? I know people who have been conceived during a rape, and to them it is extremely tough to live with the idea that they were born out of one of the cruelest acts one can think of.

I have also interviewed women who have had a back door abortion. Some of them got infections, and are not able to conceive ever again. This could have been prevented if they could have gotten proper medical care.

I am not saying that abortion is per  definition good. But one should understand that there are very very strict rules when it comes to abortion. It is not as if you  can walk in and have it removed at any given moment.

Barbara:thanks for your commenr

I agree - a certificate is just an option, but not having to make a choice. I almost feel like it trivializes the seriousness of a decision like that, as a gift certificate just makes people think of going to the mall or something... it's so odd.

I think that is more of the spirit of the article.  While I understand that there are folks in America who are not Christians and to them it is just another day, the majority of American celebrate Christmas a  Holly day.  This article focus on the Gall of PP to use a Christian Holiday as a means to promote Their services.  If, as  many folks here say, PP offers free services, why then the need for Gift Certificates.  PP is not the only game in town, many other groups offer free services. 

I am aware that Abortion is legal in America.  I intentionally used an article from the Right side of the argument to show how unfeeling this group can be.  Had PP did this for a Muslim Holiday, or Kwanzaa, or some other non Christian religious activities the outrage would be heard throughout the world.

Some have offered that PP offers safe services and that is the case.  The issue here is that one should throughly read their websites that tout teen sexual experience as normal and provides information for young teens. 

When we speech of Privacy, One should consider it as a private matter then and not high jack a Holiday that is consumed by those who are against the practice.  If anyone cannot see the mockery of the Holiday here, one is very much like those who, against there own Parental responsibility vote for Kids to get abortions without parental consent, where PP officials take the role of the family to illuminate family involvement.  If ones teen is getting pregnant, there is a family issue, and families should be involved. The same family member that don't want any restrictions on abortion even for those under the age of consent demand family involvement in any other medial procedure, getting ears pierced and minor medical involvement,

How many sexual predators use PP as a means to keep family members out of the loop on their Abuse. 

Remember this is the same group that I wrote an article about that would allow donors to designate an Abortion for a minority group no matter the motivation of the giver.

Again, Many of us Accept that Abortion is legal.  The issue is not the legality in this article.  It is the audacity of this group to use a holiday that celebrates Birth.

I appreciate all of your comments and will not rebut any of them here.  I am hopeful the conversation will remain civil and that readers will attack the content of the article, not the writer or those who make comments.  Lets make sure that all views are allowed and each with respect. 

The first amendment should be preserved here and all should be allowed to post their views.  The first amendment also provides for religious freedom  but in recent years, folks have tried to minimize a faiths ability to freely exercise their faith in the public forourn.  PP should find another holiday to problegate their pro-chioce adgenda.  C'mon, leave Christmas along.  

I am also aware that this issue takes a back seat to the terror and death occuring in Mumbai.  My prayers are with the dead (families) and the injured.  I am hoeful the terrorists do not get their desired outcome.  I heard today that it is not Just the US... But Canada, AU, Japan, and others who have suffered along with man Hindus.  I pray that we can use our anger appropritlty.

Al (Politisite)

Not arguing the ban here... just the holiday the folks used to promote

No one advocated in this article banning abortion.  But how about get a loved one a certificate for a nice dinner.  Much less emotions associated with getting a gift certificate for Target or Walmart.

For the love of god i wish the world was like BC too! Donnie looking for an American wife by any chance!? I should start an adopt an american program. lol! I think we should have been able to seek political asylum from the bush administration! 

Rhonda:

That was the point.. timing for the offer.

Hopefully He is not trying to be born.  I am looking for him to come in the clouds... Global warming may be a problem in that descent.  Thankfully he is the Lord able to transcend the creation.  Lucky us!