President Obama indeed is a Liar

by makkardave | September 10, 2009 at 09:12 am
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Rep. Joe Wilson very rightly called Obama a liar last night during the Presidential address but that was not the right time and right venue. He should have called him a liar in front of the Media out side the well of the Congress.

According to Immigration Reform Groups any undocumented/illegal immigrant can buy Health Insurance under Public Option of Obama with no question asked about their status in the Country. It is very pathetic President Obama is knowingly misrepresenting the facts and telling the American Public his health care plan is not for illegal immigrants.

So Rep. Joe Wilson has all the rights to call President Obama a liar but still not in the well of the Congress.

OBAMA TOOK 6 MONTHS IN SELECTING A DOG FOR HIS DAUGHTERS BUT FOR YOUR HEALTHCARE HE IS GIVING YOU ONLY FEW DAYS TO DECIDE. 

Democrats headed by Comrade Obama after nationalizing Banking, Insurance & Auto industry wants to Nationalize Health Care. They have carried out their crimes, “through accounting tricks, fiction, hocus-pocus, trickery, misleading statements, half truths, omissions & outright lies for the benefit of big Campaign donors who helped Obama & Dems to buy White House & Congress.

Obama & Democrats are liars who says you can keep your Plan if you don’t want Obamacare. When Obamacare is subsidized with taxpayers money how other plans can survive in Market?

Obama rather than bringing tout reforms to stop billions being given in frivolous Medical Malpractice cases to Obama’s attorney friends, billions in perks & salaries again to Obama’s friends in pharmaceutical & Health care Industry; he wants to be your DOCTOR without any medical degree.

Open up healthcare to Foreign Companies like from India & put 30,000 healthcare Industry lobbyist & 880,000 Attorneys in Obama’s stable in the White House. Just for a small example Johnson & Johnson Bill the hospitals over $7,000.00 for a coated Heart Stent; installation & hospital expanses are extra. In India the same stent by Johnson & John one can have installed from $2,000 onwards to $5,000.00 depending on the facility you are going to. Same is with major medicines what we pay in America like $160 that medicine of US maker is sold there for $10 only.

Then there are 1,300 Health Insurance Companies in America; why not to allow all of them to compete in every state that will bring competition and eventually reduce the cost of Health Care in America. Let the consumer buy Health Insurance across state boarders and international boarders. Same should apply to prescription medicines.

Does the Unionized Republicans & Democrats Carrier Politicians has any explanation between my rising Health Premium $ 462.00 for a family of 4 in 1999 to $1,923.00 in 2009 with 40-60% reduced benefits, 6 times higher co-pay for Doctor visit up from $5 to $30, Medicine Co-pay from $5.00(Branded) to $50.00(Generic), $75.00(Formulation) & $100.00 (Branded)  and Health Company’s CEO’s pay up from $8.5 mil in 1999 to $32.5 mil in 2008?

Then my Property Tax $7,800 in 2001 has gone up to $16,380 for living in the most corrupt & racist state of the world New Jersey. In 1999 I used to work 80 hrs along with 2 Full timer & 1 Part timer and now I work 120 hrs along with my wife & 1 Full timer only but still unable to match my peak earnings of 2001 which has dropped by over 25% in real terms despite my 50% additional hrs I am putting in along with 30 hours by my wife.

How we can trust Unionized Gang of Democrats & Republicans; the Carrier Politicians running America when they don’t care what is happening in New Jersey. This state with over 9,000 elected scoundrels & 400,000 Employees under 588 Governments in 8,000 sq miles with a budget of $78 billion & deficit of $165 billion including unfunded liabilities like pension, transport fund etc for 8.5 mil residents is the most corrupt state in the entire world. This state is legally corrupt and legally racially segregated.

How these Unionized Carrier Politicians are proposing to Pay for Obama Care; even a 8th Grader can figure out. More taxes on honest working people of America to Socialize America under morally & ethically bankrupt Leadership representing brain paralyzed Carrier Politicians posing as Republicans & Democrats.

It is very nice to hear good oratory full of populist phrases & populist schemes with out any explanation from where the money will come from. Obama must know that at some point oratory & populist schemes has to meet ground realities. Team Obama with Congress full of economy idiots are going to bankrupt America in 4 years what the previous administrations could not do in last 40 years. 

Dave Makkar

 

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Barry Artiste

Whats funny, is the same  pharmaceutical manufacturer in the states. sells their drugs to us in Canada for $40.00 for Plavix, yet in Oregon it is $290 for you! Hmm seems US citizens are getting a good ass raping by the Pharma companies and the Democrats who allow this to continue!

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politisite

Some very good Points.  It is true that Congressman Wilson chose the wrong venue.  People keep pointing to one section of the Known Bill H.R. 3200 and say, see it says right here, "noting in this SECTION should be contributed as providing health care to illegal immigrants".  The problem with that statement is it is restricted to that ONE SECTION of the BILL not the WHOLE bill.  This is why they put statements in bills like this, so the electorate, untrained in legalize, will see this and say, "hay no illegals will get healthcare insurance under the govt plan". 

There are other SECTIONS and other bills that deal with this.  

If Illegals can get health insurance now, open bank accounts, pay taxes, use fraudlent SS cards etc.  Thwy will get health care that you subidize... like your doing right now

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bettermaker

I'm starting to think Obama doesn't think on his own.  He's just told what to say & do, like a metaphoric "puppet" as they say.

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Roy C

To be filed under "Goes Around-Comes Around" and "Hip-Hop-Hypocrisy: OK, If Done by Cool People".


Obama Accused Bill Clinton of Telling 'Bald-Faced Lies,' Reporter Says in Book

Newsweek reporter Richard Wolffe writes in Renegade: The Making of a President that Barack Obama's campaign struggled with figuring out how to respond to former President Clinton's attacks. 

President Obama accused Bill Clinton of peddling "bald-faced lies" during the presidential campaign, according to a new book on the 2008 race. 

Newsweek reporter Richard Wolffe writes in "Renegade: The Making of a President" that Obama's campaign struggled to figure out how to respond to former President Clinton, who during the early primaries was a fierce defender of his wife Hillary Clinton's bid for the Democratic nomination. 

"We had to figure out how to deal with a former president who was just lying, engaging in bald-faced lies," Obama told Wolffe. He also boasted about his campaign's ultimate ability to take on the former president. 

Asked about the claim that Bill Clinton got into Obama's head, Obama replied: "Yes, but I got into his." 

Tensions between Obama and the former president began to rise in late January 2008, with the Nevada caucuses and then the racially charged South Carolina primary. Clinton appeared to take a hard shot at Obama when he compared his South Carolina victory to the Rev. Jesse Jackson's -- a failed presidential candidate with limited appeal outside black constituencies. 

But Obama's tough comments to Wolffe apparently referred to the back-and-forth between the two Democratic campaigns over Obama's remarks to a Nevada newspaper about the influence of former President Ronald Reagan. In the interview, Obama said Reagan changed the "trajectory" of America, while appearing to dismiss Clinton's presidency as one of less historical import. 

In response, Bill Clinton and the rest of Hillary Clinton's campaign accused Obama of praising the Republican Party. 

Wolffe quoted Obama adviser David Axelrod as saying the former president was becoming "increasingly intemperate" and spreading "flat-out distortions."

Wolffe also wrote that Obama later told his senior aides that he was willing to consider Hillary Clinton, who is now secretary of state, as his running mate "if she helps us politically." Obama was reportedly unhappy that his short list was so short -- it included only Sen. Joe Biden and Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, who are now vice president and health and human services secretary, as well as Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine. 

But Obama told his aides he was worried Clinton's husband would be too much of a "loose cannon."


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Roy C

There was no money for that and now we owe for that on top of what we owed before.

So, there is no "surplus" or future income that is not already accounted for.

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Grace H

One, taxes are used to cover those without healthcare anyway. Two, if someone's life is in danger ie. car wrecks the hospitals have a civil and professional oligation to save their life. No doctor sits there and waits for results of who is/are this/these person(s). They rush victims to the ER and try and save their life.

If they do not have insurance it does not matter. The money to cover those victims sometimes come from other citizens healthcare premiums and various taxes. So either way if there is such a provision it will not change much fundamentally. Even if it does its no skin off anyone else's back. Is it not preferable that everyone pay for some form of health insurance than such a burden falling on those who do?

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lounsbury

Awesome article, keep up the good work!!!

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Francis B

Whats amazing to me is that all these conservatives and republicans suddenly care about the deficit.  YOUR PRESIDENT TOOK OUR BUDGET SURPLUS, PUT US IN TWO POINTLESS WARS, AND LEFT US WITH THE LARGEST DEFICIT IN HISTORY.We still have yet to pay for the Iraq/Afghan wars, thanks to Bush's ideas not to even add the war to the budget.STFU about where the money is coming from, your party sucks at dealing with money.  Unless its for sex.

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master_jim2008

I think people, even Obama miss the point on ONE aspect of health care. Not just that we all have affordable health care, but also that costs within that health care are reigned in.

FOR EXAMPLE: In June 1995 I shattered my left elbow into 22 pcs. Now while it was all covered under Workman's Comp, the hospital bill was staggering. Titanium pins, $82 per inch. Black and Decker drill usage by the doc, $460. Drill bit, $200. Drape for my arm during surgery, $68, Blanket, $85, Morphine $350 per bottle (and I only got one injection out of it when the rest could have been reserved for me. Everytime I got a shot they charged that much and trashed the rest of the bottle.)

THEY charged for every little thing you can think of. I'm surprised the bill didn't include electrical utilities and a water bill to boot.

THIS is the kind of stuff that makes doctor and hospital bills insanely high priced.

Before any bill Obama signs is to be really effective, costs like what I described must be brought to a grinding halt.

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lounsbury

What is happening is the left's MO lately...

The truth is presented, folks come out of the woodwork attacking the source, and another argument typically is spun out of it when we find ourselves debating on what the definition of is, is.

Truth of the matter is the truth of the matter. And the truth of the matter is that Obamunistas are clinging to technicalities such as whether or not the proposals flat out say things like "illegal immigrants will be covered". Of course the proposals don't say that. But as was the case with the observation by Sarah Palin that death panels will result from a government run health system, proponents point to omission of particular words as validation that they aren't up to EXACTLY what they are being charged with. Whether it be death panels, abortions paid with tax dollars or the fact that illegal immigrants will indeed be beneficiaries of a federal government run health care system, it's all the same... the truth is that the allegations are true, and that the omission of particular wording is nothing but word games that we all know are just that. Word games being spun by the left.

It's why they are all so upset with how the Town Hall meetings turned, at Glenn Beck, Fox News or any other source of the truth being known and freely discussed. Look at the comments here if you need further proof.

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jazzyzazzy

Huh Politicians Motto.Lie or Die.

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72JAG

Are you kidding me?

Don't any of you check in on the facts.  Here is the section that explains healthcare in relation to illegal aliens:

H.R. 3200 includes a provision that specifically says that there will be no federal funds spent to cover illegal immigrants:

H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

The preceding section reiterates this, stating that “the term ‘affordable credit eligible individual’ means … an individual who is lawfully present in a State in the United States.” In other words, no federal subsidies for you if you’re in the country illegally. Besides, illegal immigrants aren’t eligible for federal health programs under current law. (Tax dollars do, however, cover emergency care.)

The only way an illegal alien could get medical services provided in America is in the emergency room where doctors are legally required to treat ALL patients.

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Roy C

Are you kidding me?

When an illegal alien can get a job,  buy a car and get a house in the US without being challenged to show that he is here legally,

what would stop him from getting signed up on the public option as a legal resident, since he can buy cars and houses and the rest while he is illegal?

That is the point.

The bill can have whatever words you want to make us look like we don't know what is going on, but we do know what is going on.

Obama is against enforcement of existing laws against illegal immigration and until he backs that up with real policy, saying that the gov't won't pay for illegals is just a LIE.

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Grace H

The established system still pays for them. American hospitals do not turn people down or turn them out in times of need.

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rng

The bill can have whatever words you want to make us look like we don't know what is going on, but we do know what is going on.

Here we go again...he says one thing, but means another. He won't enforce the law. Absolute supposition and paranoia. The bill excludes illegal immigrants quite categorically. Your argument, then becomes but he won't enforce it? That is meant to be a rational criticism of the policy provision? Time to recognize, your issue is not policy; it is trust. There is nothing to fear in what the policy says; your fear emanates from somewhere else and much more primeval. Your allegation is a lie and directly contravenes the provision as described. You may want to think on that. You can attempt to post-rationalize your emotional reaction to the man, but I suspect, as evidenced by this latest comment, it has little to do with the facts

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Barry Artiste

And here is another theory, don't they have a photo of Obama sucking a marlboro, cause if it is true, then in Politically Correct Lefty British Columbia, Obama would be considered worse than Hitler!

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Sgt. Victor Rodriguez

Politisite is a joke, I used to write on this site and caught him numerous times putting out false information. When I questioned him on it he would not recant it. As for prescription drugs....my wife is from Canada and always laughs at our health care system.

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dunkelberg

Excellent piece of satire.

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eileen dunlevy

i trust you with my life. i have 4 grandchilden i know it will take time this did not start over night and it will take time. so keep the go work up it may sound childish but i mean what i say i am glad you are looking in to the school the kids are inporen  my housaand con not readhe is 6went to 8 grade my self i can read63 so in all the years past dont you thank it would be better lets talkabout my girls one 40 one38so 35 it shold be better and today they are come outand cant read  that is hard to belave i no   you will do right thing                                                                           thank you eileen dunlevy            

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