Public supports closing safe injection site, Ottawa says

by Rob Peters | August 7, 2008 at 01:37 pm
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Canada's health minister recently claimed at an international conference that Canadians want to shut down Vancouver's safe injection site, but critics say his comments are ideologically driven and embarrassing.

MEXICO CITY -- Ottawa is determined to shut down Vancouver's safe-injection site because it's necessary to "draw a line" about which public health measures are acceptable, Canada's Health Minister says.

Tony Clement said that while the government supports needle exchanges as a legitimate intervention, providing a site to facilitate the injection of illegal drugs is going too far. He also invoked the slippery-slope argument.

"There are already people saying injection sites aren't enough, that true harm reduction is giving out heroin for free," the minister said.

"You have to draw the line somewhere and we feel we're drawing the line in a place Canadians are comfortable," Mr. Clement said in an interview in Mexico City, where he is attending the 17th International AIDS Conference.

But Carolyn Bennett, the Liberal public health critic, balked at that suggestion, saying Mr. Clement "opposes supervised injection sites yet says he supports needle exchange, which makes no medical sense."

She said the Conservative government's stand is driven by ideology, not compassion, and accused Mr. Clement of "embarrassing Canada" on the world stage.

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eastvanray

Politically their position makes sense.  Even if the majority of Canadians support the existance of safe injection sites, the majority of Conservative voters do not.  In addition, few if any voters would change their vote based on the status of Insite as other issues are of far greater political importance (economy, environment, basic health care). 

I expect we will see the Feds do their best to get out of supporting the safe injection business as they need some socially conservative victories in the win column to energize their base of supporters.  Abortion and gay marriage are too contentious to play with so harm reduction will take the hit.

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at 14:56 on August 7th, 2008

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You know, for once, we could try treating addicts with some compassion.  These people are sick and need help. They're not lepers.  And that 'thin end of the wedge' baloney is just sabre-rattling and rabble-rousing.  It smacks of the bad logic that descends into hyperbole as soon as there's an election on the horizon.

(sorry, but I've already passed my daily limit for short-sighted politics)

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eastvanray

I suppose we should look compassionately at all those affected.  That list would include the people who own the property that the addicts steal to buy their drugs, the business that face losses due to addicts hanging out in the streets near their store fronts, the overburdoned police and court system and anyone who has the unfortunate displeasure of having to watch these addicts shooting up in plain sight on public sidewalks and alleyways. 

I lived in the DTES for 5 years a few years ago.  The safe injection site didn't change a single thing down there (even their own data theoretically estimates that one overdose a year is prevented by Insite - not a great outcome for the money spent).  If anything the situation seems worse now than ever.  I am in favour of any harm reduction teps that can be shown to make one of the affected groups better of without harming the others.  I just think that the poverty industry does not have any interest in healing these addicts as that puts them out of a job.  They thrive on "helping" addicts not curing them.  I have had many conversations with people that work in the poverty industry down there (Portland Housing Society, VANDU, DERA etc.) and all they talk about is how if they just had more government funding things in the DTES would be so much better.  I guess it would be....better for those that earn their living scqandering our tax money on band-aid solutions, that is.

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amyjudd

I completely agree that the safe injection site should be left open. Closing it will only make matters worse, and the problem of drugs in the DTES is never going to get solved, so they shouldn't take away at least one means of controlling it.

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eastvanray

If it was a success I would completely agree but with only 5% of IV drug addicts using it I think the money could be reallocated to detox facilities instead.

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fuzZz

 

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Kikyta ♥

This is alarming, I believe we must put limits on this, because even if it appears that the application makes sense, drugs are a pandemonium that must be combated can not give tools to people to follow these ever to reaching more and more people destruction.

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eastvanray

Drugs have been used as long as humans have existed.  We are not going to change that and we have no right to change that.  People should be allowed complete freedeom to do what they want with their own bodies, even if it is self-destructive.  The only role society has is to prevent the actions of individual citizens from negatively impacting the other members of the society.  To that end we should engage in harm reduction not prohibition. 

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Propagandalf

It's a fine line... The drugs are illegal, but denying the addicts the safe injection sites will only make them spread all over the city and beyond. International experience states that a safe injection house will attract users, and because of the amnesty given to them through the site, they will be concentrated in one specific area instead of spread all over the city. Keeping the safe injection sites would gain both the users themselves and the local inhabitants.

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eastvanray

In the case of Vancouver you are not correct.  I have lived here all my life and the addicts have been in the same place the whole time.  They put the injection site where the addicts are. As for it's benefit, that is debateable as only 5% of the addicts use the facility.  They will not "spread all over the city" if we close it down as the area where it operates is a drug superstore with all the drugs a junkis could ever want and the pawn shops neseccary to fence the property that they steal from law abiding, tax paying citizens like me.

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charlieg

the point is that people are stupid and need to be educated. moral conservatives are on top of this list.

again, in england, addicts are provided what they need under the supervision of the medical profession. hitting drug dealers hard where it hurts.

if a safe injection site means less needles litering our cities then the little money involved is well worth it. its funny that today i receive a leaflet in the mail from the conservative government refering to people addicted to drugs as 'junkies'! and a picture of a needle in a playground! and yet, they want to close safe injections sites.

ideologists simply don't want to solve problems! they're happy to have problem remain as long as actions don't cross their ideological lines. the point should be to address the issues and reduce addiction.

its been shown statistically that greater legal penalties do reduce crime. the conservative government is correct in this tactic. but they're lost when it comes to removing the consumer of addictive drugs and drying up the marketplace.

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eastvanray

I am a harm reductionist but if we are only getting 5% of the IV drug users targetted by this initiative here in Vancouver I have to question if the funding couldn't be used with more impact somewhere else.  Meanwhile there is no scientific evidence that HIV and Hep-C infection rates have gone down at all.  So, ask yourself, what benefit are we actually producing?  Crime is not down, addiction is not down, discarded needles and  paraphanalia still clog the streets as they did before the safe injection site.  I think the people who are blinded by their ideology are those who refuse to ask these questions and simply assume that the facility is somhow beneficial without demanding proof.

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charlieg

you haven't just read what tony clement said... he mentions nothing on even looking at the data.

i don't have the data and i'm not sure where you get the 5% number from or how it can be statistically applied. if we applied twice as much money would we get 10% of the users?

tony clement probably says that 'crime is not down' too! but what the heck does that mean? where does one get that stat? crime rates have been steadily dropping in north america for 18 years now. its just too easy to pick stuff out of the air like that...

again, read what tony clement says... its a ideological decision on his part. he's "drawing the line".

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eastvanray

I don't pay attention to Tony Clement.  The 5% figure is based on the number of Insite users divided by the population of IV dug users in the target area.  If you think spending more mojney will make drug users more likely to use Insite then you have never known an IV drug user.  I lived down there before and after Insite opened and I can say first hand that Insite changed nothing.  I want a solution to the problem and don't care who's ox get gored.  The DTES is a disgusting place, filed with disgusting self-destructive behavior and it must end.

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charlieg

fair enough. thats a valid opinion then... given your familiarity with it.

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