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by Sputnic | September 29, 2008 at 06:07 am
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Christian scholars have accepted that the verse in the bible that states eve was taken from adam's rib to be a mistranslation. It is widely accepted that the verse should state that eve was taken from adams side. The verse is already present in this form in the quran. Do objects have more than a left and right side? They have front and back as well, right? Just as stem cell researchers were contemplating some pretty unethical research god gave them the knowledge to create stem cells from the spinal colum. The spine runs down half of one of the sides of the human body. Science and religion dont mix? I dont think so.
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at 10:11 on September 29th, 2008
What Scholars at what University based on what research, Financed by whom...?
This is as it is now, nothing but Here say, without any base nor foundation.
Not News rather Opinion at best and should be marked as OPINION.
at 09:04 on September 29th, 2008
The list is too long. A study commissioned by multy denominational christians (catholic and protestant) in 2002 (priests and cardinals not students or undergraduates) published its findings in 2006. Between 2500 and 3500 translation errors were discovered (dependant on the "version" of the bible) the verse about eve being taken from adams rib was found to have been mistranslated in every version. Constructive criticism is one thing but your comment is bordering on defamation
at 09:28 on September 29th, 2008
I do not think so Sputnic, first you put this up as news without sources nor links second you fail to mark it as an OPINION post that is the main point here and that is what would make all the difference. Was it an opinion Post, my comment would be different and if it was News with links and places or statements by so and so, again my comment would be different, however as is the post needs much work and is not acceptable. You could edit it and make it a news post or simply add OPINION and I take all comments away or edit them as well.
at 09:12 on September 29th, 2008
The list is too long. A study commissioned by multy denominational christians (catholic and protestant) in 2002 (priests and cardinals not students or undergraduates) published its findings in 2006. Between 2500 and 3500 translation errors were discovered (dependant on the "version" of the bible) the verse about eve being taken from adams rib was found to have been mistranslated in every version. Constructive criticism is one thing but your comment is bordering on defamation. Not sure whome you believe me to be defaming? If people take their religion as seriously as they claim to they should make the effort to find out the truth instead of believing what they are told
at 09:59 on September 29th, 2008
I do think so, refer to my previous comment. This piece is based on my memory of the study published two years ago. I can look it up but my memory is fine. This is too important a topic to base on hearsay. I dont lie! From past comments I gather you have read the quran? Then you should know that in the quran it states that eve was taken from adams side. I will add more "proof"
at 10:09 on September 29th, 2008
I have nothing against the topic nor the Opinion Sputnic, however it is not News without references and or links. As is it is an OPINION and should be marked as such.
I would even flag it if it was conform to NP guidelines since it is an interesting argument.
at 13:10 on October 25th, 2008
Are you attempting to create a perfect monster or something Paschen? A simple "Please mark as opinion" would work wonders. It's a thought provoking piece and I really didn't give damn what it was marked as. Stop being a vulture because what is news really? What YOU say it is. If people are skeptical about the content they can research it themselves as opposed to being sheep. GOOGLE IT!
at 10:43 on September 29th, 2008
Thanks for offer of flag. Errors in the bible are well known, this is one of the most famous, I am pretty well amazed you haven't heard of it. I am looking for (credible) sources to back up what I am saying. This was guite a big story here in the uk.
at 10:52 on September 29th, 2008
I have heard of it and that is not the point Sputnic. The point is it is not an NP news post as is and needs editing or an OPINION mark. We do have guidelines and rules that need to be followed because this is a NEWS SITE and not a BLOG SITE. That is all.
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at 11:31 on September 29th, 2008
Ok thanks paschen
at 20:20 on September 29th, 2008
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0102.htm
כב וַיִּבֶן יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים אֶת-הַצֵּלָע אֲשֶׁר-לָקַח מִן-הָאָדָם, לְאִשָּׁה; וַיְבִאֶהָ, אֶל-הָאָדָם. 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from the man, made He a woman, and brought her unto the man.The old testment was translated for the Torah, the above verse is the accepted translation from the hebrew. The bible translations however differ from bible to bible. For the correct translation the Torah is possibly the best source for a correct translation. It of course helps to speak Hebrew. Its definatly 'rib' and sorry to disapoint you, but you can always get a second opinion as the verse in hebrews above and there are many Rabi's online that will help you with your research.
Of course translations of the Torah it self could be different due to....
Hebrew is the liturgical language of Judaism (termed lashon ha-kodesh, "the holy tongue"), the language in which the Hebrew scriptures (Tanakh) were composed, and the daily speech of the Jewish people for centuries. By the fifth century BCE, Aramaic, a closely related tongue, joined Hebrew as the spoken language in Judea.[1] By the third century BCE, Jews of the diaspora were speaking Greek. Modern Hebrew is now one of the two official languages of the State of Israel along with Arabic.
Hebrew was revived as a spoken language by Eliezer ben Yehuda, who arrived in Palestine in 1881. It hadn't been used as a mother tongue since Tannaic times.[1] For over sixteen centuries Hebrew was used almost exclusively as a liturgical language, and as the language in which most books had been written on Judaism, with a few speaking only Hebrew on the Sabbath.[2]
But It looks like the original Tannaic the Torah was wrote in the original Hebrew and has not suffered a translation problem as its is termed the holy tongue....
Perhaps an email to mtr@mechon-mamre.org or office@WebYeshiva.org would quickly resolve all questions on hebrew translations.
Or learn Hebrew on line http://www.hebrewonline.com/default.asp if you are researching translations from the Torah
Hope I have been of some help.
at 02:29 on September 30th, 2008
Appreciate your comments Babelfish. As a muslim I do not accept hebrew as a holy language. Arabic is the holy language, the similaritys between aramaic and arabic point to this. Why else would one of the planet earths most important messengers (jesus) speak aramaic? How old is hebrew? Adam, the first man, worshipped god alone. This is what it means to be muslim, worshipping none other than god. David worshipped god alone. Both of these messengers are prophets in islam.
at 06:45 on September 30th, 2008
Original hebrew is as old as the first testiment of the torah. Jesus of course spoke the tongue of that time, but would of prayed in hebrew please look at old fashion wording in the published bibles to day, the thee's an thou's etc. Its difficult to understand but one can see the meaning. An Aramaic speaking jewish society would have the same problem in reading old fashion Hebrew. The languages are not to much un-alike, Jesus spoke the language of that age place and time.
The fact you are Muslim does not change the fact that Jews call the old hebrew "the holy tongue" as with me the athiest, it is would be polite and a human thing to do to respect such things. I have studied your religion and most others and one thing I always strive to do is to give respect to other peoples beliefs when in debate or writing articles.
What is mean't to be a muslim is to be a servant of God it also means what some Muslims tend to forget, is to forgive people for being human your great prophet explain this in the Koran. I learn't this fact from a very good muslim friend. Jesus the great philospher (thats how I see him) mention with great respect within the Koran also was trying to explain that people should forgive there enemies or those that sin.
King David did not pray to god alone, he was Jewish and human please read this http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt08b05.htm You really must read the Torah its as much your holy book as the Jews and the Christians don't let the Koran be the center of your education on Allah your great prophet would make bold statements about how important the Torah was to your religions history. If you are a dedicated follower of which I expect you are and you want to present your religion exactly how I see it a religion of tollarance, peace, love and understanding you really need to explore further than the Koran. The old testiments not those translations made by christians to suit their new religions but the core the Torah, and please read it with respect its your history.
Peace and may your god be with you to guide you on the right path to enlightenment.
at 02:30 on September 30th, 2008
Appreciate your comments Babelfish. As a muslim I do not accept hebrew as a holy language. Arabic is the holy language, the similaritys between aramaic and arabic point to this. Why else would one of the planet earths most important messengers (jesus) speak aramaic? How old is hebrew? Adam, the first man, worshipped god alone. This is what it means to be muslim, worshipping none other than god. David worshipped god alone. Both of these messengers are prophets in islam.
at 06:17 on September 30th, 2008
you only need to push the post comment button once however I will add to my past comment.
Did you know there where words in the Koran that can not be understood by clerics or Arabic readers? To me that adds to the beauty of the Koran I only wished I could speak Arabic like my father did and understand its poetry. My father used to read to me from the verses when I was very young and no he was not a muslim but someone that loved languages especially Arabic. I name myself in honor to my father and to the great Douglas Adams that invented the Babel Fish within one great comical and intreaging story "The hitch Hikers Guide to The Galaxy".
May your God be with you
at 09:10 on September 30th, 2008
Thanks for comments. This may get placed here a great many times as I am posting from mobile phone and the weather is bad although duplicate comments seem to happen whenever and not all the time ! I do respect others religious beliefs. It says in the quran that arabic is the holy language and so as a muslim I agree. As I am not jewish I dont accept hebrew to be a holy language. This isn't a matter of disrespect it is a matter of faith. The quran is the word of god, it says that david prayed to god alone so it is true. Who else do you claim, as an atheist, that david preyed to? God chose the time and place of jesus birth and therefor god chose the language that he spoke. There were many who followed only god at the time of jesus. They followed jesus lead and worshipped god alone. People often drift into idolatry, even during the lifetime of the messenger. Think of aaron the brother of moses and how when moses was taken up to be with god the people began to worship the calf. The same thing happened to the followers of jesus. Even those that believe jesus to be the son of god, why would they prey to the son and not the father? Douglass Adams used to be one of my favourite writers too. And hitch hikers one of his best books. He innovated about god in that book though when he said that god said if wouldn't offer proof of (his/her) his existence. Where is that written other than in that book? The word allah is without gender. The word god is taken to mean male.