INC still shouts: "Where is Sir Erano Manalo?
It is obvious that Brother Eliseo Soriano's call for a formal debate fell into deaf ears of the Manalo clan, who owns a sole corporation, that is, the Iglesia Ni Cristo, Church of Christ, (INC).
Cohorts do the action for INC ni Manalos. As proselytes, INC Ministers gone to the extent of incriminating themselves on TV.
Proselytes in the cyberspace do the same as their teachers do, more evil.
Too much hiding, they say, for the ultimate debate of all time can never happen.
INC Ministers who anchor at their program, Ang Tamang Daan, would boast and insinuate that they are the best Christian debaters. They say Bro. Eli cannot pull them down. They herald that Bro. Eli is not their level. Although their program starts and almost end bad mouthing Bro. Eli, and that is not a proof that Erano Manalo can debate.
INC Executive Minister Erano Manalo, also known as "Ka Erdie" or "Ka Erdy" Manalo leads INC ministers that don't question why he cannot debate Bro. Eli.
Not even INC Deputy Executive Minister Eduardo Manalo, also known as known as "Ka Eddie" or "Ka Eddie Boy", was authorized to debate Bro. Eli.
No Manalos dared to say "AYE!" or even announced, "YES!, let us debate NOW!" in response to the dare of Bro. Eli!
The self-appointed INC debaters instead took turns and laid the front acts to take Erano Manalo's responsibility to defend their faith and doctrines. Members do depend to their leaders in this obligation, but Erano Manalo, or any Manalos failed them.
Erano Manalo didn't give his authorization to send any INC debaters in his stead, only to Pope John Paul II, who was sickly then, to debate against Bro. Eli.
This is a blatant coward act, so much of the prestige known about the old INC Ministers, who really pursue their enemies whenever, wherever. Gone are the days.
Bro. Eli dared Erano Manalo in a peaceful debate. He debated several preachers and pastors, but there was never an instance that ADD members were noted for a fist fight in all these debates, but rather the opponents. It is actually the ADD members who were being beaten black and blue. Bro. Eli's debate were peaceful and lively, as the truth in his words comes out with the help of God! Watch these video compilations.
The Internet becomes the library of INCs where their whims and caprices to do the job of Erano Manalo to defend their faith against Bro. Eli.
But how they do it is a real problem, just like how vandalism is a problem to private properties, they do it in the cyberspace. But who polices them? None.
Wikipedia.orgEduardo Villanueva Manalo has contributed to the founding of an organization within the INC called The Association of Christians in Information Technology (AsCII), an organization consisting of INC members in the Information technology field who perform computer-related assistance to the church.
Not even the INC Deputy Eduardo "Ka Eddie" Manalo cleans the mess in the cyberspace nor scold them. He is also known as Edwardo "Ka Eddie Boy" Manalo.
INCs manifested their anticipation for their Executive Minister to come out in the open, perhaps if they vandalize. Or they are just fed up and dismayed watching, reading, listening to their INC Ministers who put them all in shame as these display their stupidity and brute.
They obviously display such bigotry, even the INC Ministers on TV and radio.
Who authorized them to act in Erano's behalf?
Take for example, Rizalino L. Arrabis, who said voluntarily that he was an employee of INC under finance, and he admitted too that he is an INC, a member of Iglesia Ni Cristo.
Arrabis wrote of his being a fanatic INC, saying, "...My idea here is to defend the Iglesia Ni Cristo, demolish, and neutralize the detractors for all these comes up as the battle for the hearts and minds. I know pretty well that I have done a good job worthy of a Christian soldier...." Arrabis' stated this as his comment from a news forum called Newsvine.
Rizalino L. Arrabis alias Ka DodongMy idea here is to defend the Iglesia Ni Cristo, demolish, and neutralize the detractors for all these comes up as the battle for the hearts and minds. I know pretty well that I have done a good job worthy of a Christian soldier
Is he is one of the SCANS (Society of Communicators; Association of Christians in IT)? If he is, then he represents the members by how he fight by all means for INC.
To further know him, one of the ex INC Minister, Brother Abner Martizano Sr. who for 23 years and 33 years was an extremist member of the Iglesia ni Cristo of Manalo, mentioned of this type of INC member at YouTube.com.
…links a person or idea, to a negative symbol. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject the person or the idea on the basis of the negative symbol, instead of looking at the available evidence.
There are several inconsistencies in the preaching of the late Félix Ysagun Manalo, an ex-Presiding Minister and founder of Iglesia Ni Cristo. Baptism is important for them to be a part of the fold, but he was not baptized in INC.
The old Manalo in the standards of the INC Ministers according to the Pasugo is excluded from the salvation. They sentenced even the forefathers of Felix Manalo to hell, those who died before 1913.
Félix M. Ysagun a.k.a Félix Y. Manalo, calls "of the devil" those who ordained him. It includes the priests and bishops of other religious Christian denominations. Manalos from Felix down the line even sentenced everyone outside their Church (INC) to hell.
What is the opinion of the Muslim community about this statement of faith by the INC?
Even the late Brother Romy Espanol, an ex-INC Minister, knows the evil tactics of INC Ministers.
The Muslims brothers should watch first this broadcast of the program, INC Ang Tamang Daan where these two INC Minister-Anchors Michael Sandoval and Ramil Parba talks about inciting, connoting, and tagging three groups as if they are one, the Muslims, the suicide bombers, and the terrorists. They even gave them an assignment and plan how to get or corner Bro. Eli should he visits several places, including Mindanao.
INC Minister Ramil Parba incited whom?
YouTube.com from NET 25 Ang Tamang Daan INCI will attack Apalit!
YouTube.com from NET 25 Ang Tamang Daan INCIf I am a Muslim, I will not allow just that..., If I were an Abu Sayaff..., or MILF..., or if I am a suicide bomber member for example, surely I will not allow that...
Immediately, added by Michael Sandoval what it is to be done while giggling.
INC Minister-Anchor Ramil Parba said, "...If I am a Muslim, I will not allow just that..., If I were an Abu Sayaff..., or MILF..., or if I am a suicide bomber member for example, surely I will not allow that..."
"...I will attack Apalit!..." INC Ministers-Anchor Michael Sandoval replied immediately .
These two INC Ministers giggle and laugh after saying their plans. It is really unbecoming of a responsible TV anchor, even a Christian minister. Their thoughts, though how many times they hide, the recorded broadcast cannot even hide them, no matter how many times they edit it. It proves how their lips utter a prayer opposite of what their hearts say.
To incite a rebellion against the government is a treason. But what about Sandoval and Parba? What will the MTRCB do to such act of terrorism on TV? Is Laguardia doing her job? Just asking because that episode of the INC Ang Tamang Daan was a studio recorded one, among many others. Didn't it go first to her office for proper classification?
Satan is pleased how the INC Ministers does his bidding: to harm the Ang Dating Daan, The Old Path followers.
After the plan has been said, these INC Ministers, Michael Sandoval and Ramil Parba their expression of fun and fulfillment they can't control, they giggle and laugh, though their call for terrorists and suicide bombers was morbid enough, what more if it is done? Would these INC Minister-Anchors jump in gladness?
I guess Filipinos were intelligent enough to discern that Bro. Eli is a faithful preacher of God. His good intention is heard in his preaching and seen in his management of the MCGI, even his charitable activities. Bro. Eli calls for people to become merciful and sober citizens of the Philippines, even the citizens of foreign countries.
Doing this, Bro. Eli fights for the salvation of everyone who has not learned of the real Jesus Christ and the Living God. He does these things biblical, based on the scriptures. While his enemies do the opposite.
1"All this I have told you so that you will not go astray.
2They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.
3They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. 4I have told you this, so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you. I did not tell you this at first because I was with you.
The doctrine should have been INC Ministers-Anchors main focus of discussions on TV, but it is their eagerness and earnestness to malign the person of Bro. Eli that proves how they spent their effort and time on the whole show.
There is this one instance that they advertised pornographic materials in Ang Tamang Daan. I am again asking Ms. Laguardia of the MTRCB, don't you check and classify this TV program anymore? The said pornographic comics was endorsed by INC Minister Michael Sandoval.
The ABS-CBN Vice President for News and television program Bandila production head, an ex-Production Unit Manager of GMA-7 is Luchi Cruz-Valdez.
Luchi Cruz Valdez tried to further this defamation on her TV Program Special Assignment - a tactic she used for her special assignment about Bro. Eli.
Mike Enriquez, the anchor of Imbestigador, a program of GMA channel 7, interviewed Bro. Eli on certain issues. Bro. Eli, on later part of the interview declared his dare to INC to let Manalo come out for a debate in television to stop all this issues between them, INC and ADD.
Is Erano G. Manalo the brains behind the propaganda or strategies of the INC Ministers against Bro. Eli?
Is Erano Manalo incapacitated now to do the job against Bro. Eli?
How about Erano's son, INC's Deputy Executive Minister Eduardo "Ka Eddie", the grandson of Felix Y. Manalo?
Did he leave his last will and testament to continue what he has started against Bro. Eli? If not, then who finances the INC Ministers? Is it the next Manalo-in-charge?
Did Ka Erdy finally have left the administration to the INC Ministers because he can no longer control them? Or is it Erano Manalo himself, remain to be the one manipulating the INC, even up to now?
These are just some of the questions that arise from those who have not seen how Erano Manalo defend his faith, nor has seen him personally - for he is nowhere to be found!
INC Ministers anchor their Ang Tamang Daan program and display libelous technique, and they can get away with it. Erano Manalo knows them, in fact they call them cheats. Erano made a lecture and he reported how INC Ministers and workers work.
Bro. Eli is the Presiding Minister of Members, Church of God International, a religious sect that imitated the Church of God, as preached by St. Paul, written in the Holy Bible. His group is also known as Ang Dating Daan, The Old Path (ADD), their TV and radio program.
Bro. Eli has a program, Itanong mo kay Soriano, Biblia ang Sasagot (Ask Bro. Eli, the Bible shall answer) where the telephone line is open for everyone who wants to ask for the Truth up to the last minute of the program. Even Michael Sandoval announced his intention to call in the program of Bro. Eli.
The ADD, and the Ang Tamang Daan, and the viewers waited for Sandoval's call, but he never called - he is a man without a word of honor. Watch how Sandoval changed his mind he denied and changed his script when he first uttered his intention to call Ang Dating Daan. He said that he will call to inform ADD to ask to continue televising the recorded lecture of Erano Manalo about his cheats co INC Ministers and workers.
These Ministers of INC, Michael Sandoval and Maximo "Ka" Bularan even insinuated that Bro. Eli will not really debate with their INC Executives. They explained that it due to Bro. Eli's suggestion that a debate between him and INC leaders should be done from two studios to be broadcasted live in national television. What is wrong with that?
In fact, Bro. Eli's suggestion for a debate between two studios is feasible, it can be done, that aims to avoid violence that can arise when done in a plaza; more so, when the Manalos are not around. Here is an evidence of INCs' violent acts: .
Also a sample clip of a debate over the television, UNTV 37, with by the use of the internet between Bro. Eli and Mitch Vickers, a Head Elder of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, on the topic "Is it necessary to obey the Ten Commandments in the Christian Era based on the Bible?” .
Bro. Eli until now is waiting for Eraño "Ka Erdy" Manalo, to come out in the open to finally affirm his INC doctrines. Bro. Eli's dare to the Manalos for a formal debate was even aired from a Philippine National television from UNTV Channel 37.
Bro. Eli has employed every good means and ways he could ever think of, so that his dare for a debate reach the Manalos.
Bro Eli has even placed his gusto, to once and for all stop this wanton type of battle thrown by the mockers INC, by posting a paid advertisement in The Manila Times broadsheet calling for a final debate.
But Erano Manalo was nowhere to be found, except his most awaited response given to his minister Ramil Parba, crying out loud at their TV program, Ang Tamang Daan, that:
Bro. Eli should first debate with the ex Pope John Paul II and speak in Latin, before our INC Executive Minister, Erano Manalo will face him.
To the avid viewers’ dismay, they realized that the debate may never happen as the ex Pope is bed ridden.
Soon after the publishing of the paid advertisement of the said announcement for a formal debate with INC, the ex Pope died.
But since the Erano Manalo, Executive Ministers of INC, will not accept the much awaited ultimate, debate of all time, even people are asking Bro. Eli why he wants to debate with the Head Manalos and not to the INC Ministers themselves. Bro. Eli answered the audience.
Here is an example of a result of a supposedly debate between members of ADD and INC where the Manalos were not present.
Even Ministers of INC went to a Bible Exposition at General Trias, Cavite and tries to put self-incriminating statements to the mouth of Bro. Eli. He did this while asking Bro. Eli with regard to his teachings from the Bible.
An INC Minister who introduced himself as Joselito Fernando Geron from Apalit Pampanga went in front to ask Bro. Eli, despite that he was not called yet, but a Muslim. This INC Minister Geron was there to clear things by his own opinion “nasabi lang niya”? Video in YouTube: Why do you particularly want to debate Ka Erdy?
What was Geron’s opinion?
1. that his INC Executive Minister Erano “Ka Erdy” Manalo doesn’t retreat to a gentlemanly debate.
2. that INC have no doctrine that states “Iglesia ni Cristo ni Manalo” and if Bro. Eli wanted to prove it, he do it through a gentlemanly debate.
When Bro. Eli was about to clarify those statements, Geron interrupted him and wanted to immediately start his question. And not only that, he interrupted Bro. Eli saying that those things he just mentioned were just his own opinion “nasabi ko lang”.
Was there any reliable information that this Geron can impart in that event when all he can say is, “nasabi ko lang’, no official statement from INC? Geron stated his mere opinion.
Geron, since he doesn’t want Bro. Eli to state why INC is INC ni Manalo, he continued to ask:
1. Why would you particularly wanted to fight brother Erano Manalo when you wanted to fight in the side of righteousness, to disprove wrong teachings and not the man or the preacher?
Bro. Eli clearly stated the teachings in the Holy Bible, as expected from the most sensible preacher of this time. Bro Eli, as expected answered him based on the scripture.
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”
Bro. Eli said he wanted to debate with the authorities/rulers. In this way, the followers will have no alibi when their Head Minister was proven wrong. The followers can just brush off with their embarrassment, but not the leader, should he lost in the debate.
Bro Eli continued the related verses:
II Corinthians 10:4
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)”
Bro. Eli added verse 5,
“Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;”
Bro. Eli highlighted that the Apostles fight not the flesh or the person himself but every high thing, the imaginations. Bro. Eli added, who did they fight it against?
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world…”
Bro. Eli, highlighted those they fight against as stated in Eph 6:12, …, against the rulers!
Geron said that they just wanted to clarify that their INC Executive Minister Felix Manalo is not their pillar of faith. He continued saying that once Bro. Eli proved that the INCs’ teachings are wrong, and not the person, they will follow and believe in him. So he wanted a discussion about teachings not the preacher.
Geron was insistent that Bro. Eli did not want to converse about the teachings. But Bro. Eli had highlighted the rulers and imagination that they fight against: “laban sa mga namamahala ng kadiliman."
Then Geron asked:
2. Is it the literal person or the teachings?
Bro. Eli said, it is the teachings and the authority who brings the teachings.
Geron started saying that he will proceed to another question after he insisted and accused Bro. Eli of not wanting to converse about the teachings.
And as expected, Bro. Eli won’t allow the accusation unanswered. Bro. Eli replied that even from the very beginning, he has been reading to him the teachings or verses from the scriptures.
Bro. Eli continued with his answer, but Geron would remain interrupting him with disdainful remarks or throwing “patutsada”.. Bro. Eli told Geron that if he has a question, he should quit treating him with disdain, to quit using his lying tongue or giving “patutsada” that Bro. Eli was getting angry.
Since the Manalos has no guts to debate, Geron tried to treat Bro Eli with disdain. He questions Bro. Eli’s answer. He can’t just say that he wanted a debate because he has no authorization from Manalo, instead he was pretending to be seeking for an answer from Bro. Eli.
Geron continued and question a doctrine that they clash on which can be viewed in YouTube: If Holy Kiss is not cheek to cheek then what is HOLY KISS?
INC Minister Joselito F. Geron stated that Bro. Eli claimed that the Holy kiss is not a holy kiss.
Bro. Eli did not say that Holy Kiss in not a Holy Kiss.
Geron continued and asked,
“…if the holy kiss is not “beso-beso” (a cheeks to cheeks kiss), what is then a holy kiss?”
Bro. Eli Soriano waited for the loud applause of the audience to subside, then answered Geron back:
“Why, do you believe that HOLY KISS is beso-beso?”
That question, if Geron answers on that very moment, people might assume that Erano Manalo finally sent his authorized debater in his stead. So Geron evaded the clarification. Geron escaped the question thrown back to him and decided that he came there to ask instead.
Geron continues to interrupt, giving disdain remarks “patutsada” while Bro Eli Soriano was talking.
But Geron tried very hard to evade the question, he didn’t answer if INC’s stand to “the holy kiss” is beso-beso or kiss on the cheek by a cheek.
There’s no authorization that’s why Geron, as planned by his INC Admin, would try to say that he was just asking, not debating. But later on, Geron came up with a debate topic which contains deceptive premise and then claims that Bro. Eli said it.
Didn’t Bro. Eli explicitly read the teaching in the Holy BIble and Geron was just there to say his opinion? Indeed, no authorization from INC Erano or Erdy Manalo, only disdain remarks, “patutsada.”
Geron continues to interrupt, so, Bro. Eli finally told Geron to affirm his intention to debate and he will answer him about the Holy Kiss.
Now, Geron changes what Bro. Eli have just said. Geron said,
“My countrymen, let’s make it official, he [Bro. Eli] said to affirm that the Iglesia will debate if it’s in pre-debate conference."
It’s clear that Geron was there to fight for Erano Manalo. He was consistently interrupting Bro. Eli. There were a lot of people who went there to asked, and the way Geron asked was truly different, he was rude.
Bro. Eli told him to let Erano Manalo come out instead. Bro. Eli said that the worse part is that Geron’s leader was in the closet, hiding.
Other vidoes: YouTube: Hamon sa Debate
The new stand or doctrine of the INC which they just recently changed and revealed in their program, Ang Tamang Daan, is that a "Holy Kiss" is "beso-beso". Before, they said that "the name Iglesia ni Cristo is the Holy Kiss". The name "Iglesia ni Cristo" is to be used to greet the Churches of Christ. The new explanation of their doctrine which they copied from a commentary of Wycliffe a protestant leader, and now became INC's STAND as further explained by Ramil Parba.
Another, Minister, Mendoza went in front to ask Bro. Eli and introduced himself as an INC member only and continued to deny his position as an INC Minister. He claimed that he is just a member, despite the insinuation given by the panel of ADD and ADD witnesses that he is really a Minister of INC.
Both Ministers went in front without following the rules in the question and answer portion which is a first come first serve basis. Minister Mendoza claims that he just arrived and he has no knowledge of the rules and just wanted to ask.
But knowing the INC that they are, Michael Sandoval, again revealed their true color at their own program. By presenting Mendoza as a Minister on their TV program, Sandoval actually proves that Mendoza lied for denying his being a Minister of INC, previously saying that he is just a member.
When Mendoza failed to get what he wanted, he then walked out giving a dirty finger. In contrary to Mendoza's action, Sandoval and Parba even exhibited this kind of hypocrisy from their own program.
One episode of their program shows how they find it difficult to utter words such as "gago" (fool) and "tanga" (ignorant).
But can we blame them? Eraño Manalo was heard saying such word "gago" (fool) to a higher degree when he exclaimed, "napakagagong pangangasiwa...!" or "...so stupid administration that you spend for the polluter..." Even Erano Manalo claimed that almost all of their church workers are liars, insinuating that he is not excluded. He also mentioned that his workers are cheats, thieves, etc.
Again, it is obvious that the dare and call for a formal debate have fallen into deaf ears of the Manalo Clan of the Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC), Church of Christ, the reason why their cohort Ministers do the action for them, to the extent of incriminating themselves in live television.
An example of this was their mock/scripted debate between INC Ministers and a Catholic representative. INC Minister Parba said, "deception, deception!" as if referring to himself, for their scripted debate show. This is a cheap trick a Catholic Faith Defender called Mr. Talibong did to them just like what INC did in their Pasugo, their INC magazine adding and subtracting words from verses from the Holy Bible and or explaining the meaning of it differently.
Now, even the internet was not spared to this kind of devilish technique as exhibited by a member of the INC, Arrabis, who out of nowhere, not only fought fangs but also spitted derogatory remarks to Jane Abao, a journalist by profession and a woman. Indeed, Arrabis, having not only the pleasure to name call Ms. Abao, even souls of commenters' were not spared. Arrabis even extended his most treasured gift of his father by displaying it at his article.
Arrabis' article is entitled, "Another Chigoe Bites The Dust." While some of his writings can be found also at Newsvine.com. According to the Institute for Propaganda Analysis, 1938,
Institute for Propaganda Analysis, 1938Bad names have played a tremendously powerful role in the history of the world and in our own individual development. They have ruined reputations, stirred men and women to outstanding accomplishments, sent others to prison cells, and made men mad enough to enter battle and slaughter their fellowmen. They have been and are applied to other people, groups, gangs, tribes, colleges, political parties, neighborhoods, states, sections of the country, nations, and races.
Even, the video proof that INC placed on youtube.com is sufficient for anyone to realize that this people will do everything to achieve their self interest schemes. How can people see the real INC acts and what not when the captions, which are supposed to narrate the scenes, have almost covered the whole screen of the video? The narration was an attempt to point fingers to Marcos Mataro's shouting that caused the ill-fate of his ADD brothers. But then again, no information was stated about what Mataro said from the shout that they heard.
People wanted to witness how cruel INC can be. But the people were denied of this opportunity, instead they were slapped of a broadsheet like narration of the scene on their faces. Since they do not have the original copy, INC editors manipulated the video so that the manifested uncontrollable angst of INCs be stopped from being exhibited in the whole world. Again they tried to hide their true colors in vain. Please see the edited video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyoAWvcusk.
Indeed, INC editors are wrong, they cannot hide the truth by mangling a video copy, even the shout that they insinuate hearing from Marcos Mataro. Here is a clear video copy of the said issue: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iSs652gTMm8.
Below are the conversations which you will hear from the video translated in English:
"No, nothing like that... Do not, Do not... Psst... No grabbing of camera" and "why are you wringing the neck" and "NO beating up!", " Stop it!" And then, the ADD brethrens suffered the INCs' beating spree when they did not succeed on grabbing the camera. Every INC there wants to have a share of beating the ADD members and ex-INC members. The police officer even said: "I didn't know what to do earlier on. Although I am an officer... they do not recognize even an officer... don't recognize anybody."
The police officer was talking about the INCs whom he has no power to control, not because of their numbers, but because these INCs won't even follow the LAW, what more of a police officer like him?
How come INC bowed down to the Japanese occupants during the war, to the extent that Felix Manalo stepped down because of the Japanese decision? INC fears those that can hurt them! Arrabis and his INC brethren have shown no fear because he knows that the Ang Dating Daan members will not inflict bodily harm on them. MCGI, fight a good fight of faith!