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by worm wood | January 19, 2008 at 01:07 pm
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It is obvious that Brother Eliseo Soriano's call for a formal debate fell into deaf ears of the Manalo clan, who owns a sole corporation, that is, the Iglesia Ni Cristo, Church of Christ, (INC).
Cohorts do the action for INC ni Manalos. As proselytes, INC Ministers gone to the extent of incriminating themselves on TV.
Proselytes in the cyberspace do the same as their teachers do, more evil.
Too much hiding, they say, for the ultimate debate of all time can never happen.
INC Ministers who anchor at their program, Ang Tamang Daan, would boast and insinuate that they are the best Christian debaters. They say Bro. Eli cannot pull them down. They herald that Bro. Eli is not their level. Although their program starts and almost end bad mouthing Bro. Eli, and that is not a proof that Erano Manalo can debate.
INC Executive Minister Erano Manalo, also known as "Ka Erdie" or "Ka Erdy" Manalo leads INC ministers that don't question why he cannot debate Bro. Eli.
Not even INC Deputy Executive Minister Eduardo Manalo, also known as known as "Ka Eddie" or "Ka Eddie Boy", was authorized to debate Bro. Eli.
No Manalos dared to say "AYE!" or even announced, "YES!, let us debate NOW!" in response to the dare of Bro. Eli!
The self-appointed INC debaters instead took turns and laid the front acts to take Erano Manalo's responsibility to defend their faith and doctrines. Members do depend to their leaders in this obligation, but Erano Manalo, or any Manalos failed them.
Erano Manalo didn't give his authorization to send any INC debaters in his stead, only to Pope John Paul II, who was sickly then, to debate against Bro. Eli.
This is a blatant coward act, so much of the prestige known about the old INC Ministers, who really pursue their enemies whenever, wherever. Gone are the days.
Bro. Eli dared Erano Manalo in a peaceful debate. He debated several preachers and pastors, but there was never an instance that ADD members were noted for a fist fight in all these debates, but rather the opponents. It is actually the ADD members who were being beaten black and blue. Bro. Eli's debate were peaceful and lively, as the truth in his words comes out with the help of God! Watch these video compilations.
The Internet becomes the library of INCs where their whims and caprices to do the job of Erano Manalo to defend their faith against Bro. Eli.
But how they do it is a real problem, just like how vandalism is a problem to private properties, they do it in the cyberspace. But who polices them? None.
Not even the INC Deputy Eduardo "Ka Eddie" Manalo cleans the mess in the cyberspace nor scold them. He is also known as Edwardo "Ka Eddie Boy" Manalo.
INCs manifested their anticipation for their Executive Minister to come out in the open, perhaps if they vandalize. Or they are just fed up and dismayed watching, reading, listening to their INC Ministers who put them all in shame as these display their stupidity and brute.
They obviously display such bigotry, even the INC Ministers on TV and radio.
Who authorized them to act in Erano's behalf?
Take for example, Rizalino L. Arrabis, who said voluntarily that he was an employee of INC under finance, and he admitted too that he is an INC, a member of Iglesia Ni Cristo.
Arrabis wrote of his being a fanatic INC, saying, "...My idea here is to defend the Iglesia Ni Cristo, demolish, and neutralize the detractors for all these comes up as the battle for the hearts and minds. I know pretty well that I have done a good job worthy of a Christian soldier...." Arrabis' stated this as his comment from a news forum called Newsvine.
Is he is one of the SCANS (Society of Communicators; Association of Christians in IT)? If he is, then he represents the members by how he fight by all means for INC.
To further know him, one of the ex INC Minister, Brother Abner Martizano Sr. who for 23 years and 33 years was an extremist member of the Iglesia ni Cristo of Manalo, mentioned of this type of INC member at YouTube.com.
Arrabis maligns and name call the people who do not favor his INC belief as show in his comment posts at Newsvine.com. He uses the name-calling technique every time.
There are several inconsistencies in the preaching of the late Félix Ysagun Manalo, an ex-Presiding Minister and founder of Iglesia Ni Cristo. Baptism is important for them to be a part of the fold, but he was not baptized in INC.
The old Manalo in the standards of the INC Ministers according to the Pasugo is excluded from the salvation. They sentenced even the forefathers of Felix Manalo to hell, those who died before 1913.
Félix M. Ysagun a.k.a Félix Y. Manalo, calls "of the devil" those who ordained him. It includes the priests and bishops of other religious Christian denominations. Manalos from Felix down the line even sentenced everyone outside their Church (INC) to hell.
What is the opinion of the Muslim community about this statement of faith by the INC?
Even the late Brother Romy Espanol, an ex-INC Minister, knows the evil tactics of INC Ministers.
The Muslims brothers should watch first this broadcast of the program, INC Ang Tamang Daan where these two INC Minister-Anchors Michael Sandoval and Ramil Parba talks about inciting, connoting, and tagging three groups as if they are one, the Muslims, the suicide bombers, and the terrorists. They even gave them an assignment and plan how to get or corner Bro. Eli should he visits several places, including Mindanao.
INC Minister Ramil Parba incited whom?
Immediately, added by Michael Sandoval what it is to be done while giggling.
INC Minister-Anchor Ramil Parba said, "...If I am a Muslim, I will not allow just that..., If I were an Abu Sayaff..., or MILF..., or if I am a suicide bomber member for example, surely I will not allow that..."
"...I will attack Apalit!..." INC Ministers-Anchor Michael Sandoval replied immediately .
These two INC Ministers giggle and laugh after saying their plans. It is really unbecoming of a responsible TV anchor, even a Christian minister. Their thoughts, though how many times they hide, the recorded broadcast cannot even hide them, no matter how many times they edit it. It proves how their lips utter a prayer opposite of what their hearts say.
To incite a rebellion against the government is a treason. But what about Sandoval and Parba? What will the MTRCB do to such act of terrorism on TV? Is Laguardia doing her job? Just asking because that episode of the INC Ang Tamang Daan was a studio recorded one, among many others. Didn't it go first to her office for proper classification?
It is a clear plan, INC Administration wanted to stop Bro. Eli exposing them. And to stop him, they want some other groups to do the job for them, and it's the three groups they called.
Satan is pleased how the INC Ministers does his bidding: to harm the Ang Dating Daan, The Old Path followers.
After the plan has been said, these INC Ministers, Michael Sandoval and Ramil Parba their expression of fun and fulfillment they can't control, they giggle and laugh, though their call for terrorists and suicide bombers was morbid enough, what more if it is done? Would these INC Minister-Anchors jump in gladness?
I guess Filipinos were intelligent enough to discern that Bro. Eli is a faithful preacher of God. His good intention is heard in his preaching and seen in his management of the MCGI, even his charitable activities. Bro. Eli calls for people to become merciful and sober citizens of the Philippines, even the citizens of foreign countries.
Doing this, Bro. Eli fights for the salvation of everyone who has not learned of the real Jesus Christ and the Living God. He does these things biblical, based on the scriptures. While his enemies do the opposite.
John 16:
1"All this I have told you so that you will not go astray.
2They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.
3They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. 4I have told you this, so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you. I did not tell you this at first because I was with you.
The doctrine should have been INC Ministers-Anchors main focus of discussions on TV, but it is their eagerness and earnestness to malign the person of Bro. Eli that proves how they spent their effort and time on the whole show.
There is this one instance that they advertised pornographic materials in Ang Tamang Daan. I am again asking Ms. Laguardia of the MTRCB, don't you check and classify this TV program anymore? The said pornographic comics was endorsed by INC Minister Michael Sandoval.
Due to this, there is no need to wonder how INC was also behind the ABS-CBN vs. GMA bout.
The ABS-CBN Vice President for News and television program Bandila production head, an ex-Production Unit Manager of GMA-7 is Luchi Cruz-Valdez.
Luchi Cruz Valdez tried to further this defamation on her TV Program Special Assignment - a tactic she used for her special assignment about Bro. Eli.
In this regard, ADD analyzed the kind of journalism Luchi Cruz-Valdez employed, hear-says, and answered her point by point.
Mike Enriquez, the anchor of Imbestigador, a program of GMA channel 7, interviewed Bro. Eli on certain issues. Bro. Eli, on later part of the interview declared his dare to INC to let Manalo come out for a debate in television to stop all this issues between them, INC and ADD.
Is Erano G. Manalo the brains behind the propaganda or strategies of the INC Ministers against Bro. Eli?
Is Erano Manalo incapacitated now to do the job against Bro. Eli?
How about Erano's son, INC's Deputy Executive Minister Eduardo "Ka Eddie", the grandson of Felix Y. Manalo?
Did he leave his last will and testament to continue what he has started against Bro. Eli? If not, then who finances the INC Ministers? Is it the next Manalo-in-charge?
Did Ka Erdy finally have left the administration to the INC Ministers because he can no longer control them? Or is it Erano Manalo himself, remain to be the one manipulating the INC, even up to now?
These are just some of the questions that arise from those who have not seen how Erano Manalo defend his faith, nor has seen him personally - for he is nowhere to be found!
Those who has not followed the issue of debate between Members, Church of God International (MCGI) and Iglesia Ni Cristo - Manalo (INC) came about may watch this clip at YouTube.com.
INC Ministers anchor their Ang Tamang Daan program and display libelous technique, and they can get away with it. Erano Manalo knows them, in fact they call them cheats. Erano made a lecture and he reported how INC Ministers and workers work.
Bro. Eli is the Presiding Minister of Members, Church of God International, a religious sect that imitated the Church of God, as preached by St. Paul, written in the Holy Bible. His group is also known as Ang Dating Daan, The Old Path (ADD), their TV and radio program.
Bro. Eli has a program, Itanong mo kay Soriano, Biblia ang Sasagot (Ask Bro. Eli, the Bible shall answer) where the telephone line is open for everyone who wants to ask for the Truth up to the last minute of the program. Even Michael Sandoval announced his intention to call in the program of Bro. Eli.
The ADD, and the Ang Tamang Daan, and the viewers waited for Sandoval's call, but he never called - he is a man without a word of honor. Watch how Sandoval changed his mind he denied and changed his script when he first uttered his intention to call Ang Dating Daan. He said that he will call to inform ADD to ask to continue televising the recorded lecture of Erano Manalo about his cheats co INC Ministers and workers.
These Ministers of INC, Michael Sandoval and Maximo "Ka" Bularan even insinuated that Bro. Eli will not really debate with their INC Executives. They explained that it due to Bro. Eli's suggestion that a debate between him and INC leaders should be done from two studios to be broadcasted live in national television. What is wrong with that?
In fact, Bro. Eli's suggestion for a debate between two studios is feasible, it can be done, that aims to avoid violence that can arise when done in a plaza; more so, when the Manalos are not around. Here is an evidence of INCs' violent acts: .
Also a sample clip of a debate over the television, UNTV 37, with by the use of the internet between Bro. Eli and Mitch Vickers, a Head Elder of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, on the topic "Is it necessary to obey the Ten Commandments in the Christian Era based on the Bible?” .
Bro. Eli until now is waiting for Eraño "Ka Erdy" Manalo, to come out in the open to finally affirm his INC doctrines. Bro. Eli's dare to the Manalos for a formal debate was even aired from a Philippine National television from UNTV Channel 37.
Bro. Eli has employed every good means and ways he could ever think of, so that his dare for a debate reach the Manalos.
Bro Eli has even placed his gusto, to once and for all stop this wanton type of battle thrown by the mockers INC, by posting a paid advertisement in The Manila Times broadsheet calling for a final debate.
But Erano Manalo was nowhere to be found, except his most awaited response given to his minister Ramil Parba, crying out loud at their TV program, Ang Tamang Daan, that:
Bro. Eli should first debate with the ex Pope John Paul II and speak in Latin, before our INC Executive Minister, Erano Manalo will face him.
To the avid viewers’ dismay, they realized that the debate may never happen as the ex Pope is bed ridden.
Soon after the publishing of the paid advertisement of the said announcement for a formal debate with INC, the ex Pope died.
But since the Erano Manalo, Executive Ministers of INC, will not accept the much awaited ultimate, debate of all time, even people are asking Bro. Eli why he wants to debate with the Head Manalos and not to the INC Ministers themselves. Bro. Eli answered the audience.
Bro. Eli tells them that Manalos should debate him if to be done at a Plaza, because this will prevent the INC violence for their Executive Minister's sake.
Here is an example of a result of a supposedly debate between members of ADD and INC where the Manalos were not present.
Even Ministers of INC went to a Bible Exposition at General Trias, Cavite and tries to put self-incriminating statements to the mouth of Bro. Eli. He did this while asking Bro. Eli with regard to his teachings from the Bible.
An INC Minister who introduced himself as Joselito Fernando Geron from Apalit Pampanga went in front to ask Bro. Eli, despite that he was not called yet, but a Muslim. This INC Minister Geron was there to clear things by his own opinion “nasabi lang niya”? Video in YouTube: Why do you particularly want to debate Ka Erdy?
What was Geron’s opinion?
1. that his INC Executive Minister Erano “Ka Erdy” Manalo doesn’t retreat to a gentlemanly debate.
2. that INC have no doctrine that states “Iglesia ni Cristo ni Manalo” and if Bro. Eli wanted to prove it, he do it through a gentlemanly debate.
When Bro. Eli was about to clarify those statements, Geron interrupted him and wanted to immediately start his question. And not only that, he interrupted Bro. Eli saying that those things he just mentioned were just his own opinion “nasabi ko lang”.
Was there any reliable information that this Geron can impart in that event when all he can say is, “nasabi ko lang’, no official statement from INC? Geron stated his mere opinion.
Geron, since he doesn’t want Bro. Eli to state why INC is INC ni Manalo, he continued to ask:
1. Why would you particularly wanted to fight brother Erano Manalo when you wanted to fight in the side of righteousness, to disprove wrong teachings and not the man or the preacher?
Bro. Eli clearly stated the teachings in the Holy Bible, as expected from the most sensible preacher of this time. Bro Eli, as expected answered him based on the scripture.
Ephesians 6:12
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”
Bro. Eli said he wanted to debate with the authorities/rulers. In this way, the followers will have no alibi when their Head Minister was proven wrong. The followers can just brush off with their embarrassment, but not the leader, should he lost in the debate.
Bro Eli continued the related verses:
II Corinthians 10:4
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)”
Bro. Eli added verse 5,
“Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;”
Bro. Eli highlighted that the Apostles fight not the flesh or the person himself but every high thing, the imaginations. Bro. Eli added, who did they fight it against?
Ephesians 6:12
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world…”
Bro. Eli, highlighted those they fight against as stated in Eph 6:12, …, against the rulers!
Geron said that they just wanted to clarify that their INC Executive Minister Felix Manalo is not their pillar of faith. He continued saying that once Bro. Eli proved that the INCs’ teachings are wrong, and not the person, they will follow and believe in him. So he wanted a discussion about teachings not the preacher.
Geron was insistent that Bro. Eli did not want to converse about the teachings. But Bro. Eli had highlighted the rulers and imagination that they fight against: “laban sa mga namamahala ng kadiliman."
Then Geron asked:
2. Is it the literal person or the teachings?
Bro. Eli said, it is the teachings and the authority who brings the teachings.
Geron started saying that he will proceed to another question after he insisted and accused Bro. Eli of not wanting to converse about the teachings.
And as expected, Bro. Eli won’t allow the accusation unanswered. Bro. Eli replied that even from the very beginning, he has been reading to him the teachings or verses from the scriptures.
Bro. Eli continued with his answer, but Geron would remain interrupting him with disdainful remarks or throwing “patutsada”.. Bro. Eli told Geron that if he has a question, he should quit treating him with disdain, to quit using his lying tongue or giving “patutsada” that Bro. Eli was getting angry.
Since the Manalos has no guts to debate, Geron tried to treat Bro Eli with disdain. He questions Bro. Eli’s answer. He can’t just say that he wanted a debate because he has no authorization from Manalo, instead he was pretending to be seeking for an answer from Bro. Eli.
Geron continued and question a doctrine that they clash on which can be viewed in YouTube: If Holy Kiss is not cheek to cheek then what is HOLY KISS?
INC Minister Joselito F. Geron stated that Bro. Eli claimed that the Holy kiss is not a holy kiss.
Bro. Eli did not say that Holy Kiss in not a Holy Kiss.
Geron continued and asked,
“…if the holy kiss is not “beso-beso” (a cheeks to cheeks kiss), what is then a holy kiss?”
Bro. Eli Soriano waited for the loud applause of the audience to subside, then answered Geron back:
“Why, do you believe that HOLY KISS is beso-beso?”
That question, if Geron answers on that very moment, people might assume that Erano Manalo finally sent his authorized debater in his stead. So Geron evaded the clarification. Geron escaped the question thrown back to him and decided that he came there to ask instead.
Geron continues to interrupt, giving disdain remarks “patutsada” while Bro Eli Soriano was talking.
But Geron tried very hard to evade the question, he didn’t answer if INC’s stand to “the holy kiss” is beso-beso or kiss on the cheek by a cheek.
There’s no authorization that’s why Geron, as planned by his INC Admin, would try to say that he was just asking, not debating. But later on, Geron came up with a debate topic which contains deceptive premise and then claims that Bro. Eli said it.
Didn’t Bro. Eli explicitly read the teaching in the Holy BIble and Geron was just there to say his opinion? Indeed, no authorization from INC Erano or Erdy Manalo, only disdain remarks, “patutsada.”
Geron continues to interrupt, so, Bro. Eli finally told Geron to affirm his intention to debate and he will answer him about the Holy Kiss.
Now, Geron changes what Bro. Eli have just said. Geron said,
“My countrymen, let’s make it official, he [Bro. Eli] said to affirm that the Iglesia will debate if it’s in pre-debate conference."
It’s clear that Geron was there to fight for Erano Manalo. He was consistently interrupting Bro. Eli. There were a lot of people who went there to asked, and the way Geron asked was truly different, he was rude.
Bro. Eli told him to let Erano Manalo come out instead. Bro. Eli said that the worse part is that Geron’s leader was in the closet, hiding.
Other vidoes: YouTube: Hamon sa Debate
Response: AUTHORIZATION hamon ni Eli Soriano
The new stand or doctrine of the INC which they just recently changed and revealed in their program, Ang Tamang Daan, is that a "Holy Kiss" is "beso-beso". Before, they said that "the name Iglesia ni Cristo is the Holy Kiss". The name "Iglesia ni Cristo" is to be used to greet the Churches of Christ. The new explanation of their doctrine which they copied from a commentary of Wycliffe a protestant leader, and now became INC's STAND as further explained by Ramil Parba.
Another, Minister, Mendoza went in front to ask Bro. Eli and introduced himself as an INC member only and continued to deny his position as an INC Minister. He claimed that he is just a member, despite the insinuation given by the panel of ADD and ADD witnesses that he is really a Minister of INC.
Both Ministers went in front without following the rules in the question and answer portion which is a first come first serve basis. Minister Mendoza claims that he just arrived and he has no knowledge of the rules and just wanted to ask.
But knowing the INC that they are, Michael Sandoval, again revealed their true color at their own program. By presenting Mendoza as a Minister on their TV program, Sandoval actually proves that Mendoza lied for denying his being a Minister of INC, previously saying that he is just a member.
When Mendoza failed to get what he wanted, he then walked out giving a dirty finger. In contrary to Mendoza's action, Sandoval and Parba even exhibited this kind of hypocrisy from their own program.
One episode of their program shows how they find it difficult to utter words such as "gago" (fool) and "tanga" (ignorant).
But can we blame them? Eraño Manalo was heard saying such word "gago" (fool) to a higher degree when he exclaimed, "napakagagong pangangasiwa...!" or "...so stupid administration that you spend for the polluter..." Even Erano Manalo claimed that almost all of their church workers are liars, insinuating that he is not excluded. He also mentioned that his workers are cheats, thieves, etc.
Again, it is obvious that the dare and call for a formal debate have fallen into deaf ears of the Manalo Clan of the Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC), Church of Christ, the reason why their cohort Ministers do the action for them, to the extent of incriminating themselves in live television.
An example of this was their mock/scripted debate between INC Ministers and a Catholic representative. INC Minister Parba said, "deception, deception!" as if referring to himself, for their scripted debate show. This is a cheap trick a Catholic Faith Defender called Mr. Talibong did to them just like what INC did in their Pasugo, their INC magazine adding and subtracting words from verses from the Holy Bible and or explaining the meaning of it differently.
Now, even the internet was not spared to this kind of devilish technique as exhibited by a member of the INC, Arrabis, who out of nowhere, not only fought fangs but also spitted derogatory remarks to Jane Abao, a journalist by profession and a woman. Indeed, Arrabis, having not only the pleasure to name call Ms. Abao, even souls of commenters' were not spared. Arrabis even extended his most treasured gift of his father by displaying it at his article.
Arrabis' article is entitled, "Another Chigoe Bites The Dust." While some of his writings can be found also at Newsvine.com. According to the Institute for Propaganda Analysis, 1938,
Even, the video proof that INC placed on youtube.com is sufficient for anyone to realize that this people will do everything to achieve their self interest schemes. How can people see the real INC acts and what not when the captions, which are supposed to narrate the scenes, have almost covered the whole screen of the video? The narration was an attempt to point fingers to Marcos Mataro's shouting that caused the ill-fate of his ADD brothers. But then again, no information was stated about what Mataro said from the shout that they heard.
People wanted to witness how cruel INC can be. But the people were denied of this opportunity, instead they were slapped of a broadsheet like narration of the scene on their faces. Since they do not have the original copy, INC editors manipulated the video so that the manifested uncontrollable angst of INCs be stopped from being exhibited in the whole world. Again they tried to hide their true colors in vain. Please see the edited video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyoAWvcusk.
Indeed, INC editors are wrong, they cannot hide the truth by mangling a video copy, even the shout that they insinuate hearing from Marcos Mataro. Here is a clear video copy of the said issue: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iSs652gTMm8.
Below are the conversations which you will hear from the video translated in English:
"No, nothing like that... Do not, Do not... Psst... No grabbing of camera" and "why are you wringing the neck" and "NO beating up!", " Stop it!" And then, the ADD brethrens suffered the INCs' beating spree when they did not succeed on grabbing the camera. Every INC there wants to have a share of beating the ADD members and ex-INC members. The police officer even said: "I didn't know what to do earlier on. Although I am an officer... they do not recognize even an officer... don't recognize anybody."
The police officer was talking about the INCs whom he has no power to control, not because of their numbers, but because these INCs won't even follow the LAW, what more of a police officer like him?
How come INC bowed down to the Japanese occupants during the war, to the extent that Felix Manalo stepped down because of the Japanese decision? INC fears those that can hurt them! Arrabis and his INC brethren have shown no fear because he knows that the Ang Dating Daan members will not inflict bodily harm on them. MCGI, fight a good fight of faith!
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at 13:24 on January 19th, 2008
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and dagat dagadatng apoy (not verified)at 13:19 on July 27th, 2009
leche wag kaung magulo!
at 18:19 on January 21st, 2008
I nominate Erano Manalo of the Iglesia ni Cristo to the Guinness
Book of Records for having the thickest porcupine shield that his pride
is not pricked at all even if his teachings are being questioned.
at 18:24 on January 21st, 2008
worm wood, sure the story is good! A crusade for truth and social action. Where, by the way is this icon now?
at 06:50 on January 22nd, 2008
He firmly believed that he has an angel for a father. Therefore, he has a power to hide.
at 17:57 on January 27th, 2008
Are you sure Manalo is alive? I mean Erano Manalo, the incumbent
Last Messenger. He just had his 82nd birthday, I believe. But since
people do not see him around, and most of his people NEVER SAW HIM, why
shouldn't they ask questions?
Why not Eduardo Manalo, the impending Last Messenger to be the one to come forward?
I think they are not sure now who is their leader over there.
at 06:44 on January 30th, 2008
Today is the time to fight spiritually. Not later, not tomorrow, but now!
at 19:07 on February 3rd, 2008
Suddenly, no one is reposponding from the INC.
However, their
materials that portend to destroy Eliseo Soriano are now found with
other preachers from different religions. I would not say, how come?
David Swift, a born-again pastor, for example, is displaying
materials from the INC website. He is also not arguing responsibly from
the Bible but he aims his attack on personalities. For example, he was
showing Soriano as a sickly man.
The insight here is that lies seem to easily fly high and get protected anywhere.
I remember that thing about THE PRINCE OF THE POWER OF THE AIR.
It is in operation, right?
at 04:39 on May 16th, 2008
Just wait for Bro Eli meeting them face to face. Let us see if both David Swift and the INC are sharing the same shameful spirits.
at 06:31 on June 4th, 2008
Rizalino L Arrabis,
Do you remember Marcos Mataro of the Ang Dating Daan who was almost beaten by your brethren in Jollibee in Apalit, Pampanga? Even your sisters in faith where there, very angry shouting in Kapampangan and they are really ready to faught fangs too, literally, like you do in your writing!
I do not wonder why your sisters in faith are now telling you on the rumor of the closure of the ADD Convention Center compound. Why didn't you go yourself in Ang Dating Daan Convention Center compound where your "INC Secret Agents/Spies" reside and feed for free.
I guess you do remember Marcos Mataro of Ang Dating Daan who shouted the words below:
I read someone saying, "Sadly, they are the ones who went amok in Jollibee Apalit Pampanga; they hit the ADD members and blow the skull, noses, lips, face off - they still have the nerve to file suits and accuse the ADD homicide cases. The perpetrators acted as the victims here. Youtube has the videos, they can deny it but videos can't."
And now, Marcos is dead. Mataro was killed.
I do not recall that the Apostles IN THE OLD TIMES got the government working for them to have a kapilya "chapels where the unwanted people CANNOT go in and out without being harassed or BEING KILLED or mugged inside or even beaten to DEATH beside its own walls!
What I can recall in the Bible is that these Apostles were instead sent to prisons, cursed, maligned, and even killed!
And what the true ways of God we cannot fathom. I remember, the motorcycle which was used by the gunners of the host of UNTV program, D’ X-Man - Marcos Mataro, was left in the vicinity because it failed to start after they shot Mataro. Who owns the motorcycle? Who borrowed the motorcycle?
"In his passing, Marcos Mataro’s fearless and unabashed expose when he was still alive, except that he is not after corrupt politicians and government scams, but of religious systems, now only earned a much bigger credibility, successfully sending a strong message about the sinister nature of the former religion that he was unabashedly and fearlessly exposing.
In a way, his fight was little victory earned, recalling in mind the little David getting the giant Goliath piqued. Even if it means one’s own life. A sweet death. After all, what is life on earth if not well spent in standing in the path of Truth."
http://www.angdatingdaan.org/justice-for-marcos-mataro.html
You know what? Your INC Ministers and Officers, even INC members, including you, have one thing in common, a set of minds and hearts that speaks of evil: You do not think twice just like Satan. You almost always leave a trail that will prove what you have done wrong, and you implicate yourselves.
Truly, this is the next question, "When will it all end, Erano Manalo?" OH! Not yet! Erano Manalo is still in hiding. The next best thing only God can tell. To die or to live, God knows best!
at 09:09 on June 5th, 2008
Listen up!!! Proceed to the nearest chapel....
Hahaha! To your chapel of lies and liars?
Keep dreaming you are growing bigger and growing more and more.
Now, listen!
Where's Manalo? When will he come out of his porcupine shell to debate with Bro. Soriano?
Why are you the one answering for him?
Why don't you answer issues instead of building up lies to the person of Mr. Daniel Razon and Bro. Soriano and even to me?
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Anonymous (not verified)at 22:07 on July 10th, 2008
Dr. Jane Kivorckian Abao,
You know pretty well of who just came out from her porcupine shell!!! It is Eliang Soriano with her P240,000 bailbond after having been captured by the police. Your Convention Center of lies and deceptions are now padlocked!!! It was used for multiple scams perpetrated and perpetuated by your cult and Eliang Soriano. Let your hardheaded cult and leader keep dreaming of a growing and bigger monetary returns from the corruptions that you have been doing eversince.
Now listen, if what you got from Eliang Soriano is not enough to satisfy your yearnings for more money, make a business like what Eliang did!!! Sell her comics including her latest, "THE SECRETS OF ELISEO SORIANO". You have to do it fast. The year 2010 is fast approaching!!! Eliang is running for President of the Philippines. She failed the last time around and that's why she could never forgave the Iglesia Ni Cristo for her debacles. It was formerly revealed by you that there is more than 12 million voters from your cult!!! But you included the dead who were burried even before the arrival of the apostate church in the Philippines, the Catholic Church.
Why are you covering Eliang Soriano of her crimes? Why are you doing the talking for her? She has two mouths, the upper and the lower!!! If she is really intelligent, let her do the talking and not you who can't understand partial from impartial!!! You would just fail her!!!Why don't you come out and debate with us in a civil way!!! Your non-passing bar examiner, Daniel Razon, and your cult's scam leader, Eliang Soriano, are the very ones who are not confronting issues and had been building up lies and deceptions against the Iglesia Ni Cristo!!!
Of the multiple cults that Eliang Soriano registered with the Security and Exchange Commission, which one will be saved by Satan??? Which one is the true Satanic Church??? How about the "Ang Dating Daan Break-away Group", what happens to them??? What happens to the lover of Soriano in the beak-away group?
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caerlcionne (not verified)at 13:46 on August 12th, 2008
Who in the world is Eliang Soriano? I bet the correct name is Eliseo Soriano, isn't it? Hmm... you can't even post correct information of your subject. How come you commented immediately without reviewing your notes? Hihi...
And why do you use inappropriate pronouns? I am not that good in grammar but I learned that masculine name deserves masculine pronouns like "he" or "his," right? So proper noun Eli should have pronouns "He," "His." Correct me if I am wrong. (whoah! I miss elementary English!)
Oops! Does Dr. Abao have foreign blood? I didn't know that. Kivorckian- is she half Russian or what? I want to know where you got that surname. I'll check maybe I have French blood. A tout a l'heure! Ciao!
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arcon (not verified)at 13:47 on August 12th, 2008
Who in the world is Eliang Soriano? I bet the correct name is Eliseo Soriano, isn't it? Hmm... you can't even post correct information of your subject. How come you commented immediately without reviewing your notes? Hihi...
And why do you use inappropriate pronouns? I am not that good in grammar but I learned that masculine name deserves masculine pronouns like "he" or "his," right? So proper noun Eli should have pronouns "He," "His." Correct me if I am wrong. (whoah! I miss elementary English!)
Oops! Does Dr. Abao have foreign blood? I didn't know that. Kivorckian- is she half Russian or what? I want to know where you got that surname. I'll check maybe I have French blood. A tout a l'heure! Ciao!
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ELIAS IBARRA (not verified)at 19:19 on August 19th, 2008
Arcon,
No, the correct name is Eliseo Fernando Soriano!!! Eliang Soriano as a name came about after the rape of the cult's General Secretary!!! The public came to know that the cult leader is really a woman!!! The name was given to him as an appeasement of his womanhood!!! She loves to be called a woman!!! She desires it so much that is why a part of the tithing, teething, and "titing" were used by him for cosmetics in the amount of more or less P50,000 a month in order to project an image of pure womanhood!!!
Why are you not so familiar with Mr. Soriano? You seem to be coming from the "Ang Dating Daan Break-away Group"!!! Are you trying to infiltrate the loyalist camp? You can't do that!!! Jane Abao, Wormwood, Capt. Smiley, and other Chigoes won't approve of your scheme!!! The use of the personal pronouns she and her by Mr. Rizalino L. Arrabis to describe Eliseo Fernando Soriano or Eliang Soriano in his other multiple personality are accurate and precise!!! You probably did not read the story of "Eliang". Eliang is a woman like Soriano!!! Ask the Filipinos who worked in the Middle East!!!
About the family name Kivorckian, you seem really to be out of this world!!! Ask Jane Abao? She knows about him? Please read Time and Newsweek Magazines the next time around!!! I am not your teacher!!! If you are un-informed, it is not my problem!!! It is probably because your cult leader told you to stop studying because Judgment Day would take place in the year 2000!!! Did it happen? You were duped ha? You were duped yesterday and today!!! You will be duped by Eliang forever!!!
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*** (not verified)at 00:41 on December 24th, 2008
Bro Eli didnt get any amount of peso from the members of MCGI.He has his own business to live well and sustains their needs and as a proof, he is the one who always help the poor members even non members and also with bro Daniel of course with help of Almighty God.(watch the UNTV 37 and pls go to www.angdatingdaan website and www.untv.
We know the secrets of your religion.maganda kayo sa panlabas pero sa loob ay parang burak .
Cult pala ha! kayo ang tunay na Cult!!!!mali mali ang aral nyo!kunwari bawal ang feast day pero naghahanda at nakikikakin pa...umiinom pa ng alak(bawal daw hehe..lokohin nyo sarili nyo)yosi kadiri pa kayo..pasamba samba pa kunawari pero after worship nila nagyoyosi naman....yan ba ang banal?sa church compound lng nagpapalda ang babae pero paglabas mahalay na ang damit..kunwari mababait ang manggagawa pero may mga masamang gawa din at manloloko pa sa mga babae nilang kapatid..
at 08:20 on June 6th, 2008
Rizalino L Arrabis, you are again, carelessly implicating yourself by telling us your father's plan, you malicious liar.
By the way, the acronym of your religious program Ang Tamang Daan is ATD, and you know its equivalent from what you wrote above. How can you smell something far from you more than the shit you have and those around you? Indeed, you cannot smell your own shit because of the familiarity, you adapted.
Rizalino L Arrabis, you lose the debate. You confirmed that God is exercising His ownership of the Church. If we follow your line of reasoning, it will still be correct if we call it the Church of God. The Church of God has been there since time immemorial and because there is a need for the different vine to cleave to the true vine, those who will cleave will be a part of the vine. We are registered Members, Church of God International in the government. And the prophecy remains true, the word cannot be broken.
1 Corinthians 1:2 To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those EVERYWHERE who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours:
Rizalino L Arrabis of the Iglesia ni Cristo ni Manalo, your chapel will burn to the ground come the judgement day. Or you do have another doctrine to tell us, don't you?
Amos 5:11You trample on the poor and force him to give you grain. Therefore, though you have built stone mansions, you will not live in them; though you have planted lush vineyards, you will not drink their wine.
But we have a house we look forward to - The rooms, the many mansions in heaven, prepared by Jesus Christ, in his Father's house.
John 14:1-4 "Don't let this throw you. You trust God, don't you? Trust me. There is plenty of room for you in my Father's home. If that weren't so, would I have told you that I'm on my way to get a room ready for you? And if I'm on my way to get your room ready, I'll come back and get you so you can live where I live. And you already know the road I'm taking."
Rizalino L Arrabis, the fanatic liar, you are adapting to the smell of your ATD, "Ang Tamang Daan", a loveless world, a sightless world, a salty-less body. It is just but a salty-less temple and body. Ask the Bible about it. Your spies living in our Convention Center in Apalit Pampanga even eat the free food, literally and spiritually, that Brother Eli has prepared for the visitors.
I hope this INC members will not go for the payment they get from their INC Ministers. I hope their eyes will be opened too so, they will learn of the Truth, by heart, by love, by charity.
John 14: 22Judas (not Iscariot) said, "Master, why is it that you are about to make yourself plain to us but not to the world?"
23-24"Because a loveless world," said Jesus, "is a sightless world. If anyone loves me, he will carefully keep my word and my Father will love him—we'll move right into the neighborhood! Not loving me means not keeping my words. The message you are hearing isn't mine. It's the message of the Father who sent me.
25-27"I'm telling you these things while I'm still living with you. The Friend, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send at my request, will make everything plain to you. He will remind you of all the things I have told you. I'm leaving you well and whole. That's my parting gift to you. Peace. I don't leave you the way you're used to being left—feeling abandoned, bereft. So don't be upset. Don't be distraught.
28"You've heard me tell you, 'I'm going away, and I'm coming back.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I'm on my way to the Father because the Father is the goal and purpose of my life.
"Get up. Let's go. It's time to leave here."
Your INC spies are in Apalit Pampanga and listening to Bro Eli's preaching, when he reads the Holy Bible. The INC spies will know something from the BIBLE, ahead of time, what is to be done. They have a choice.
John 14:29-31"I've told you this ahead of time, before it happens, so that when it does happen, the confirmation will deepen your belief in me. I'll not be talking with you much more like this because the chief of this godless world is about to attack. But don't worry—he has nothing on me, no claim on me. But so the world might know how thoroughly I love the Father, I am carrying out my Father's instructions right down to the last detail.
Brother Marcos Mataro, an ex-INC, is now resting. Some of us might taste the same fate, to rest ahead. But we do not fear the guns, we don't live with it! We do not live by guns!
John 16: 1-4 "I've told you these things to prepare you for rough times ahead. They are going to throw you out of the meeting places. There will even come a time when anyone who kills you will think he's doing God a favor. They will do these things because they never really understood the Father. I've told you these things so that when the time comes and they start in on you, you'll be well-warned and ready for them.
31-33Jesus answered them, "Do you finally believe? In fact, you're about to make a run for it—saving your own skins and abandoning me. But I'm not abandoned. The Father is with me. I've told you all this so that trusting me, you will be unshakable and assured, deeply at peace. In this godless world you will continue to experience difficulties. But take heart! I've conquered the world."
Thank God, there are no more figures of speech for the Christians who believe. Plain language for the believers and we are not deprived of our right to cleave to the Good, only the Father is Good - He owns the Church of God.
Mark 10:18 (King James Version) 18And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
The "Ang Dating Daan" program has members who cleaved to the Church of God owned by the only good, that is, God.
The "Ang Dating Daan" program has listeners who is being taught and indoctrinated to learn the Church of God, owned by the only good, that is, God.
James 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.
(The Message) James 1:16-18So, my very dear friends, don't get thrown off course. Every desirable and beneficial gift comes out of heaven. The gifts are rivers of light cascading down from the Father of Light. There is nothing deceitful in God, nothing two-faced, nothing fickle. He brought us to life using the true Word, showing us off as the crown of all his creatures.
This is our cup of tea: Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
at 09:48 on July 1st, 2008
It tells as a just verdict to the both parties - terminating the junk or scum of the society. The author of this wants to tell the TRUTH. As we have knowledge of the purpose of debate - to clear up issues and to compare both parties who is telling the Truth. I think it is illogical to say that your product is effective when you don't have to prove it. You must need to test it first and discern the effectiveness of that product. Let the scruples and fair minded people decides if what is for them deserves upright!!
I amazed regarding with the issues of the both parties that Mr. Manalo (INC leader) cannot face Mr. Soriano (ADD Presiding Minister) for the formal debate.. I cannot see something wrong with the invitation because first and foremost the goal of this debate is to clear up issues who's telling the truth between the both parties. Now, Mr. Manalo decline this invitation or debate, is it rightful to conclude that this man cannot prove his principle true?
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Anonymous (not verified)at 20:01 on July 8th, 2008
Mr. Esstat17,
It is common knowledge all over the world that the Iglesia ni Cristo or the Church of Christ never refuses to debate with anybody as long as the topic of the debate is fully agreed upon and all the pre-requisites and requisites in order for the debate to succeed are present. You can ask those who had debated with the ministers of the Church of Christ for the abject truth on this matter. You are right by saying that the purpose of a debate is to clear up issues and to compare the arguments of both parties as to who is telling the truth. The issue that the Iglesia ni Cristo is not going to debate with the leader who is accused of rape, Eliang Soriano, is outright rediculous and presumptous. Look!!!, the place where she was caught by the police is just a few miles from the Central Office where Bro. Erdie Manalo is holding office as the Executive Minister of the Church of Christ. Had Eliang Soriano used her time in confronting the leader of the Iglesia Ni Cristo with the time that she had during the interregnum of her hiding, she could have had debated already with us. However, the opposite is true!!! She was hiding from 2005 until her capture by the police!!! And she did nothing to have the debate succeed!!! I have been trying also my best here to have her give me her account number including that of the addresses of her lovers but to no avail for there is no answer!!! In fact the Cetral Office of the Iglesia Ni Cristo could easily be accessed by using the phone and fax numbers, e-mail, and postal mailing addresses which are readily available in our magazine, GOD'S MESSAGE!!!
The so called challenge for a debate by the cult leader of the Church of Gays, International, Eliang Soriano, is nothing but a bluff to cover-up her numerous crimes against society by using the Iglesia ni Cristo as scapegoats of her woes!!! To prove this, you yourself Mr. Esstat17 could challenge any minister of the Iglesia Ni Cristo or you could work in tandem with Eliang Soriano!!! You can proceed to the Central Office with her and present your invitation for the debate!!!! Hurry up!!! What takes you so long!!! I will be asking you here as to what takes both of you so long to prepare for the debate!!! From 2005 up to the present, there is no answer from the cult of Soriano although for several instances I have kept on repeating my challenge to her!!! It is now rightful and safe to conclude that the Pseudo-preacher and ACCUSED RAPIST, ELIANG SORIANO, can not prove her arguments!!! What a shame on her!!! She will be placing you in ABJECT HUMILIATION TOO, MR. ESSTAT17, in case she does nothing!!!
The works of the Almighty God through the last messenger of these last days, if compared to a product, would readily show its glorious stature. In fact people have had commented already that "the Church of Christ is a force to be reckoned with". The presence of the Church of Christ in all the habitable continents of this earth clearly indicates the success of the mission from the Far East. With more than 90 countries,105 nationalities, and more or less 6,000 congregations under its umbrella of influence, and with hundreds of houses of worship constructed and under construction, surely a person with a sensible mind would conclude that this is not a push-over church but a DYNAMIC CHURCH.
NOW, WE WILL HAVE A GRAND BIBLE EXPOSITION HERE IN GUAM AND ALL OVER THE WORLD!!! THIS IS NOW YOUR CHANCE TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE WORDS OF GOD AND OF JESUS CHRIST THROUGH THE PREACHING FUNCTIONS OF OUR MINISTERS!!! I AM NOW INVITING EVERYBODY TO GIVE YOURSELVES A CHANCE!!! PLEASE PROCEED TO OUR NEAREST CHAPELS AND INQUIRE!!! INQUIRE AS TO WHO THE ONLY TRUE GOD IS??? OUR TRUE GOD IS DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF THE CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS!!! OUR GOD IS ALONE AND NOT A TRIUNE GOD!!! HE DOES NOT NEED ANY COMPANION TO BE POWERFUL!!! WAKE UP AND LISTEN!!!
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ecrivain (not verified)at 16:45 on August 14th, 2008
Anonymous wrote:
NOW, WE WILL HAVE A GRAND BIBLE EXPOSITION HERE IN GUAM AND ALL OVER THE WORLD!!! THIS IS NOW YOUR CHANCE TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE WORDS OF GOD AND OF JESUS CHRIST THROUGH THE PREACHING FUNCTIONS OF OUR MINISTERS!!!
(Screech) Why "OUR MINISTERS?"
Can't you be proud of saying: NOW, WE WILL HAVE A GRAND BIBLE EXPOSITION HERE IN GUAM AND ALL OVER THE WORLD!!! THIS IS NOW YOUR CHANCE TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE WORDS OF GOD AND OF JESUS CHRIST THROUGH THE PREACHING FUNCTIONS OF OUR eraño manalo, (or eduardo manalo)
Can't you? Can't you? WHY??? (Is it because they are not fond of facing people?)
And hey!!! Grand Bible Exposition all over the world???? I don't see ur expositions obvious here in the Philippines. Maybe you do that in corners? And yet you are proud, hahah... (pity.)
He also wrote: THIS IS NOW YOUR CHANCE TO INQUIRE...
Huh??? Inquire who? Eraño, or Eduardo Manalo? (Duh...)
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Anonymous (not verified)at 10:33 on July 9th, 2008
To: Anonymous (not verified)
As you have said that iglesia ni cristo never refuses to debate.. As i have learned long time ago while Mr. Soriano (presiding minister of the members of ADD) was here in the Philippines, as I watch his TV programs called ANG DATING DAAN, he spent resources and money in advertising materials and resources to let the world know that he invited the presiding minister of INC or Mr. Manalo for a formal debate but unfortunately the INC party responded that he must face first Pope John Paul II before facing their presiding minister. Is that acceptable response?
If Mr. Manalo have accepted that invitation I guess the issues will minimized somehow. But until now the issue is still hot because I've learned from news that there are killings happens because of the rivalry of the both parties..Mr. Marcos Mataro, I hope I correctly got his full name, a member of church of God was killed with a gunshot wounds, get shed his blood resulting of harsh killing. The suspect/s of this crime undoubtedly the other party or INC members because Marcos Mataro is an ex-INC member and adventurously affiliate to the church of God, and he exposed the spoiled doctrines of his ex-religion or INC. Is God tells us to fight against flesh? It is an anti-christ acts. .
Well, I don't wonder that the INC members refuses to accept the invitation of Mr. Soriano because I've seen a video on how the Iglesia ni Cristo debates with 7th Day Adventist. See even 7th Day Adventist they cannot defeat much more If they contend Mr. Soriano because as I watch the programs regarding his debates with other religions, there is no such videos showing that Mr. Soriano have been lost.
Where is the presiding minister of INC? are you contented of always hiding in your wardrobe? and even there net warriors camouflaging there identities.
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jay01 (not verified)at 12:30 on July 11th, 2008
I have a question for the ministers of INC. Would you force your members to marry someone whom they do not love? On the context that you've found out that these people had premarital sex. And, would the family of these parties be affected, for example the church would disown them if one of these parties would not agree to the marriage?
at 06:01 on July 24th, 2008
Arrabis, "You said that "Just go to the chapel nearest you and ask the minister with your problem!!! to Jay01" So therefore if the truth seekers are seeking biblical answer from you.. can't you give biblical answer to them? If you are really in Christ, you are always ready to give biblical answer to those who are seeking the real gospel of Christ. But I do not wonder if you can't provide a biblical answer and you rather want to recommend someone as your scapegoat, because your minister cannot provide too because they cannot understand the real meaning of words written in the bible. And they prefer to degrade the personality of Bro. Eliseo Soriano. They rather like to defame him despite the fact that he is always telling the truth. They always make devices or inventions of maligning the morality of man. IF MR. RIZALINO L. ARRABIS only acquainted with what so called Bible, as the real basis of faith, he should not match-up the leader to cohorts of another party, if he is using his mind, but as we noticed, he isn't.. even there is no logical point of view.. he is just like a robot or A.I. program that covers all questions and controversies of there congregation esp his leader Mr. Manalo "THe Billionaire Preacher" . And being hired for his own profits by defaming others. Leaders must contend against leaders, as written in Ephesians 6:12, it says "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places". The Rulers Must Be Wrestle!! Vital Statistics
at 08:51 on July 26th, 2008
rizalino l arrabis,
But if you can't even talk or see Erano Manalo personally, let me help you recall your so called "convictions" in writings then, when you laid your cards on the table:
rizalino l arrabis, like his INC Ministers http://youtube.com/watch?v=_GQVPHhUtbo, uses rumors and uses these pull down Bro Eli Soriano. This is the Daniel "PUTO" Veridiano who said that he was raped by Bro Eli Soriano http://youtube.com/watch?v=kdp5xedvL44 who was physically impossible to be with "PUTO" http://youtube.com/watch?v=93AIMfYHShc. The fact is, Daniel "PUTO" Veridiano was excommunicated in Ang Dating Daan for raping several male brethren, whom I think, have forgiven him http://youtube.com/watch?v=LzgyvOFTWCk. Daniel "PUTO" Veridiano, since he has nowhere to go, and wanst to retaliate, he let himself be used by INC Administration for having the same ill-motives! http://youtube.com/watch?v=CDpifIJ4pIA.
And now, INC is using Daniel "PUTO" Veridiano to invented file suits against Bro Eli Soriano, to destroy reputation. INC Administration even used some high government officials, to continue that case, which was supposed to be dismissed last http://youtube.com/watch?v=93AIMfYHShc because there is no probable cause found, but the case still remains due to a high government official's influence youtube.com/watch?v=93AIMfYHShc.
rizalino l arrabis, aren't you tired on fighting physically, beginning from your youth up to joining the army? It is very tiresome and cannot even be compared to CAT-1! But now, I want to fight for the faith that I learned to carry in my heart, to serve God and my countrymen. I learned to hope not only for myself, but for my family and friends. I also learned to hope for my enemies that someday, they will learn the word of God. It is hard, but when love abideth, Jesus Christ will be your helper to carry the burden for you if you just have the right faith, hope, and love. Even if it is difficult to teach those who can kill the body, my hope still lies in the hands of my Maker, He owns my spirit.
To the gays out there, learn what you really need to do in God's presence, even you rizalino l arrabis. Then you'll be able to live out your days free to pursue what God wants instead of being tyrannized by what you want.
INC Administration wants to stop the ADD members to proclaim the true message, the gospel that God himself gave. There are several plans made by this INC Administration, but it is only God who can tell what is enough, and what we deserve in this lifetime, what our body will face.
The INC Administration set traps, http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dp1h1NsLq3c, http://youtube.com/watch?v=FXAfdfHs1U4&feature=related, but it is INC who got caught, though they can do away with it, come judgement day, they will surely get what they deserve and can never escape that. INC Administration planted traps, they tried to send INC spies in the ADD Convention Center, and these INC spies went back to where they belong to host some of the Ang Tamang Daan segments enumerate on the following video clips of your INC ex and current brethren: http://youtube.com/watch?v=spScHHCNwzM
INC Administration filed several suits against Bro Eli Soriano and you will read sooner or later as you go along as rizalino l arrabis writes here what he got from the diary of Erano Manalo and INC Administration. Actually, some of the INC spies are in ADD Convention Center, eating the food that Bro Eli Soriano prepared, for the physical and spiritual needs of our poor brethren.
Next, INC lawyer ran amok in the Add Convention Center again together with NBI agents (who called themeselves as such) having high caliber weapons. Then, INC Ministers called from Ang Tamang Daan (ATD) in TV broadcast the suicide bombers and terrorists to go to the ADD Convention Center in Apalit, Pampanga. And now, rizalino l arrabis spreads rumor that together with a local goverment official in Apalit Pampanga went to ADD Convention Center to close it! INC Administration tried so hard, and up to now, everything to stop spreading the Word of God! They are trying to police, abuse, and terrorize us even in cyberspace! These actuations of video tape and voice tape mangling of the INC Administration are the standards of INC, even from whom rizalino l arrabis got his idea of news article mangling and his idea:
rizalino l arrabis, if you think you were forced by Erano Manalo to say your piece, it's up to you to decide, whether to follow him or to follow yourself, or to follow God.
When you follow God, you'll be able to live out your days free to pursue what God wants instead of being tyrannized by what you want.
But INC Administration used different people, their brothers, the excommunicated ADD members, even people they hire to file suits agains Bro Eliseo Soriano. The MTRCB even favored them and suspended the program several times including bro Eli Soriano from speaking live on National Television.
rizalino l arrabis, watch this clip yourself on how you and your INC Ministers pride on your conviction and stand, to even negate the words in the Holy Bible itself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6kHVLe0lOg And the INC call for the debate was even a pre-recorded one, not even a live broadcast! INC editors really can't edit, and their INC Advisers can't advise, can they? Even mangling tapes, they leave traces of their devilish act. INC Minister Joe Ventilacion never replied afer watching himself and the answer of Bro Eli Soriano!
Now, even if Bro Eli Soriano can surely suffer these things from the INCs, http://youtube.com/watch?v=yLmwZ0SRt9I, http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dp1h1NsLq3c, http://youtube.com/watch?v=FXAfdfHs1U4&feature=related, http://youtube.com/watch?v=_GQVPHhUtbo, when the debate is done in a PLAZA, he will surely face any MANALO who will represent INC ni Felix Manalo conviction and doctrines in a spiritual debate! http://youtube.com/watch?v=VlMEdyCAGz0
Answer this rizalino l arrabis, Is Erano Manalo an INC Minister or not? Is Erano Manalo a sent mesenger in these last days or not? Can Erano Manalo debate or not? Can Erano Manalo come out now to face Bro Eli Soriano in the much awaited debate of this Era? http://youtube.com/watch?v=VlMEdyCAGz0
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The One New Man (not verified)at 05:40 on July 29th, 2008
at 06:45 on July 29th, 2008
Rizalino, you're only getting one warning here - cut it out with turning people's names into swears. Your behaviour is in clear violation of our terms of service.
Also everyone needs to take a deep breath and calm down, or take this to private messaging.
at 16:31 on August 3rd, 2008
That now is called moderating.
I salute NowPublic for that.
And now, Arrabis, have you come face to face with the mirror?
I hope you have seen at least a part of yourself.
Be brave and log in and do not hide under Anonymous
at 07:27 on August 3rd, 2008
Hey Editors,
What happened to the comments of rizalino l arrabis?
Even some of my comments were deleted.
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rapiersword-esstat17 (not verified)at 08:09 on August 8th, 2008
hello everyone!!!
what happen to this page.. The other comments are deleted? It cannot bear the uncleanness of Rizalito Ocampo, the robotic and fanatic adherent of Iglesia ni Cristo (Manalo), the other version of fraternity group, which tends to use the name of God in vain but actually at the back of this congregation, They bury their member alive, they unconsciuosly done inequity and evil deads and they are thinking that they are serving their god.
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at 08:13 on August 8th, 2008
Where is eraño manalo? click here!