Londonistan Calling

by joellerose | May 9, 2007 at 07:56 am
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Calling London, Londonistan is Christopher Hitchen's way of pointing out the changes he has observed since he left England and moved to the United States.  He is a highly respected, liberal author who writes for Slate, Salon, Vanity Fair and even, surprisingly, for the Wall Street Journal.  We disagree in many areas, but I have tremendous respect for his knowledge and his wit, and he "gets" it, with regard to the dangers facing the civilized world from Islamic terrorism and unending attempts to impose Sharia law.  I have included two excerpts from this long article just out in "Vanity Fair".

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The <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />London neighborhood of the author's youth, Finsbury Park, is now one of the breeding grounds for a new phenomenon: the British jihadist. How did a nation move from cricket and fish-and-chips to burkas and shoe-bombers in a single generation?


 

 "They say that the past is another country, but let me tell you that it's much more unsettling to find that the present has become another country, too. In my lost youth I lived in Finsbury Park, a shabby area of North London, roughly between the old Arsenal football ground and the Seven Sisters Road. It was a working-class neighborhood, with a good number of Irish and Cypriot immigrants. Your food choices were the inevitable fish-and-chips, plus the curry joint, plus a strong pitch from the Greek and Turkish kebab sellers. There was never much "bother," as the British say, in Finsbury Park. Greeks and Turks might be fighting in Cyprus, but they never lifted a hand to one another in London. Many of the Irish had republican allegiances, but they didn't take that out on the local Protestants. And, even though both Cyprus and Ireland had all the grievances of partitioned former British colonies, it would have seemed inconceivable—unimaginable—that any of their sons would put a bomb on the bus their neighbors used.

Returning to the old place after a long absence, I found that it was the scent of Algeria that now predominated along the main thoroughfare of Blackstock Road. This had had a good effect on the quality of the coffee and the spiciness of the grocery stores. But it felt odd, under the gray skies of London, to see women wearing the veil, and even swathed in the chador or the all-enveloping burka. Many of these Algerians, Bangladeshis, and others are also refugees from conflict in their own country. Indeed, they have often been the losers in battles against Middle Eastern and Asian regimes which they regard as insufficiently Islamic. Quite unlike the Irish and the Cypriots, they bring these far-off quarrels along with them. And they also bring a religion which is not ashamed to speak of conquest and violence...."


 “It's interesting that it should be authors from Muslim backgrounds—Salman Rushdie, Hanif Kureishi, Monica Ali, the broadcaster and co-author of the Policy Exchange report Munira Mirza—who are issuing the warnings. For the British mainstream, multiculturalism has been the official civic religion for so long that any criticism of any minority group has become the equivalent of profanity. And Islamic extremists have long understood that they need only suggest a racial bias—or a hint of the newly invented and meaningless term "Islamophobia"—in order to make the British cough and shuffle with embarrassment. Prince Charles himself, the heir to the throne and thus the heir to the headship of the Church of England, has announced his sympathy for Islam and his wish to be the head of all faiths and not just one. This may sound good, if absurd (a chinless prince who becomes head of a church because his mother dies?), but only if you forget that it was Prince Charles who encouraged the late King Fahd, of Saudi Arabia, to contribute more than a million pounds to build … the Finsbury Park Mosque! If you want my opinion, our old district was a lot better off when the crowned heads of the world were busy neglecting it.


 


Anyway, you can't be multicultural and preach murderous loathing of Jews, Britain's oldest and most successful (and most consistently anti-racist) minority. And you can't be multicultural and preach equally homicidal hatred of India, Britain's most important ally and friend after the United States. My colleague Henry Porter sat me down in his West London home and made me watch a documentary that he thought had received far too little attention when shown on Britain's Channel 4. It is entitled Undercover Mosque, and it shows film shot in quite mainstream Islamic centers in Birmingham and London (you can now find it easily on the Internet). And there it all is: foaming, bearded preachers calling for crucifixion of unbelievers, for homosexuals to be thrown off mountaintops, for disobedient and "deficient" women to be beaten into submission, and for Jewish and Indian property and life to be destroyed. "You have to bomb the Indian businesses, and as for the Jews, you kill them physically," as one sermonizer, calling himself Sheikh al-Faisal, so prettily puts it. This stuff is being inculcated in small children—who are also informed that the age of consent should be nine years old, in honor of the prophet Muhammad's youngest spouse. Again, these were not tin-roof storefront mosques but well-appointed and well-attended places of worship, often the beneficiaries of Saudi Arabian largesse. It's not just the mosques, either. In West London there is a school named for Prince Charles's friend King Fahd, with 650 pupils, funded and run by the government of Saudi Arabia. According to Colin Cook, a British convert to Islam (initially inspired by the former crooner Cat Stevens) who taught there for 19 years, teaching materials said that Jews "engage in witchcraft and sorcery and obey Satan," and incited pupils to list the defects of worthless heresies such as Judaism and Christianity.

 

What this shows is the utter futility of the soft-centered explanations of the 7/7 bombings and other outrages. It was argued for a while that the 7/7 perpetrators were victims of unemployment and poverty, until their remains were identified and it became clear that most of them came from educated and reasonably well-off backgrounds. The excuses then abruptly switched, and we were asked to believe that it was Tony Blair's policy in Iraq and Afghanistan that motivated the killers. Suppose the latter to be true. It would still be the case that they belong to a movement that hates Jews and Indians and all kuffar, or "unbelievers": a fanatical sect that believes itself entitled to use deadly violence at any time. The roots of violence, that is to say, are in the preaching of it, and the sanctification of it.

 

If anything, Tony Blair is far too indulgent to this phenomenon. It is his policy of encouraging "faith schools" that has written sectarianism into the very fabric of British life. A non-Muslim child who lives in a Muslim-majority area may now find herself attending a school that requires headscarves. The idea of separate schools for separate faiths—the idea that worked so beautifully in Northern Ireland—has meant that children are encouraged to think of themselves as belonging to a distinct religious "community" rather than a nation. As Undercover Mosque also shows, Blair's government has appeased leading Muslim apologists by inviting them to join "commissions" to investigate the 7/7 attacks, and thus awarding them credibility well beyond their deserts. A preposterous and sinister individual named Inayat Bunglawala, assistant secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain and a man with a public record of support for Osama bin Laden, was made a convener of Blair's task force on extremism despite his stated belief that the BBC and the rest of the media are "Zionist controlled."

 It's impossible to exaggerate how far and how fast this situation has deteriorated. Even at the time of the Satanic Verses affair, as long ago as 1989, Muslim demonstrations may have demanded Rushdie's death, but they did so, if you like, peacefully. And they confined their lurid rhetorical attacks to Muslims who had become apostate. But at least since the time of the Danish-cartoon furor, threats have been made against non-Muslims as well as ex-Muslims (see photograph), the killing of Shiite Muslim heretics has been applauded and justified, and the general resort to indiscriminate violence has been rationalized in the name of god. Traditional Islamic law says that Muslims who live in non-Muslim societies must obey the law of the majority. But this does not restrain those who now believe that they can proselytize Islam by force, and need not obey kuffar law in the meantime. I find myself haunted by a challenge that was offered on the BBC by a Muslim activist named Anjem Choudary: a man who has praised the 9/11 murders as "magnificent" and proclaimed that "Britain belongs to Allah." When asked if he might prefer to move to a country which practices Shari'a, he replied: "Who says you own Britain anyway?" A question that will have to be answered one way or another."

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Kaitlin

joellerose, I think your story has potential but needs some improvement. I've got a few suggestions, and if you give them a try, I'd be happy to remove this flag.

This is an unusual piece for you--you haven't explained the background (I know Londonistan, but many people may not...clarify that this is a novel and who the author is). Also, it's difficult to tell where the excerpt ends and your commentary begins...is there a better way to organize this? 

give it a look and see if there's a better way to put this together. I leave it in your capable hands.

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Kaitlin

joellerose, thanks for improving your story -- I can see you've put more effort into it. I've removed the flag and now more readers can see it. Thanks for your contribution.

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joellerose

I have added some introductory commentary and an additional excerpt.  Everything else consists of Hitchen's thoughts.

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chaz

 

"How did a nation move from cricket and fish-and-chips to burkas and shoe-bombers in a single generation?"

The very same way the United States is moving to Tacos and Ponchos. Once there's enough Mexicans they'll quit marching in our streets to protest legal immigration and start burning cars and maybe just blow-up buses instead.

 

The Brits did it with Muslims because one party or the other pandered to the immigrants and allowed to large a number of immigrants into their country. That sounds familiar to me here in America , we lost control of our  immigration and will have a different group that may adopt the same tactics as the Muslims. 

Here we sit with NO ONE in Congress and a President that will do nothing to curb the flow of people who obviously don't mind breaking our laws(they did it to get here and will do it again once their here) if they feel like they need to.  

 

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johnny1989a

Re: Chaz - What a sweaping statement of rubbishness regarding Muslims & indeed Mexicans.  I'm not a Muslim myself (technically I'm C Of E - Church of England although I'm not religious) but know the vast majority of them are not suicide bombers.


Considering the fact that alot of America was built on immigration & the fact a lot of Southern USA was originally part of Mexico I find the attitude that is sometimes displayed to Mexican's hard to believe.


Of course you need to curb "flooding" of immigration but to say that a particular nation is one thing shows ignorance in my honest opinion.


However, unfortunately these fanatics have tarred many of the good Muslims, in the same way the IRA did with the Irish all those years ago.

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chaz

By the good Muslims, I guess you mean the ones, calling publicly and openly in the media for these murderers who  are posing as Good Muslims to be chased down and brought to justice? I'd like to see an article showing these good Muslims marching against Al Qaeda and maybe Iran's involvement.

 Unfortunately these vocal Muslims appear to be almost invisible. Is there any shame, do they donate to a Christian/Jewish charity to help victims of those religions? Actions speak volumes.

I'm happy to call anyone a friend, until it's pointed out that their associates are attempting to kill me, then I get a bit suspicious as to whether they're with me or with their associates. I'm not the one asking for trust, I think absolute clarity of actions and deeds have to be visible before I'm able to trust and turn my back to that friend.
     
 As for immigration,  it's not a right.     I don't have a right to drive and Mexicans don't have a right to drive or cross our national border. Just ask the blond bimbo "what's her name Hilton" Who's supposed to do 45 days in jail time because she broke our laws.

I think they're welcome, as legal citizens.

If twelve million American Citizens refuse to fill out or pay their Income Tax, will they be allowed to continue to do so?

The actual numbers make this a "sweeping", huge failure of Government, and a breakdown of organized society.
As would twelve million citizens refusing to pay their taxes or drive without license or twelve million bank robbers... If the Elected Government we installed, isn't in control then who is, do you actually promote chaos?   

Sweeping?.. yes and rightfully so, Rubishness?... maybe in your mind.    

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joellerose

A. While just about every thinking person now knows, all Muslims are not terrorists, but, for the most part, all terrorists are Muslims.  What many do not realize (or won't face) is that everywhere in the world where Muslims congregate, whether it's Great Britain, the Netherlands, Canada or the USA, they try to impose their Sharia laws on everyone.


B. What citizens of the USA want is that our laws be enforced and our borders secured.  Right now we have no way of knowing how many terrorists are crossing our borders every day, in addition to the incredible drain that illegal Mexican immigrants place on our welfare, medical and prison resources.

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johnny1989a

First off I would like to point out that I'm not for these Terrorists at all, in actual fact what they did was disgraceful, but many a Muslim I know strongly condemed these attacks.  Unfortunately the idiots who do the death threats always end up on TV & end up being the generalisation.  I just didn't agree with your generalisation of Muslims that's all, there are quite a few of the younger generation that are rebelling against their religious ways by smoking, drinking, etc.


Secondly I would like to apologies regarding the Mexican side of things, I never realised so many try to get into the country illegally.  The problem is though with the USA technically larger parts of it did originally belong to Mexico.  The British, Spanish & other European nations invaded other parts of the world did what ever they wanted to do & then p*ssed off when they wanted to or got kicked out leaving a trail of problems in the countries they left behind, although I know this wasn't a problem in the USA.


Immigration rights wise it's a bit different (I think) in the UK.  British Commonwealth (Ex-British Empire) Countries are (I think) allowed easier access to the UK, also being part of the EU allows easier access to the country.  However seeing as it was revealed that both Labour & the Tories mucked up on monitoring asylum seekers, perhaps that's why it seems easier over here

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chaz

I dumped on Mexicans but in actual problem, I think it will be Cuban or Nicaraguan or Venezuela  that would be the ones hiding in the mass migration that could cause us the most grief.

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chaz

 

If all these illegals are good for America, Why aren't they good for their own country inside their own borders? 

Send all of them you want to America, but first help me fix the system so I don't pay all the taxes to support everyone who comes for the free stuff.  As soon as the government changes to a fair tax system(sales tax) so that Illegals are paying along side me instead of living off of me. Then direct them to the entry gates where they can be documented and we can keep out the murderers. 

After that, I have nothing against letting people come here to work and suck up the safety net services that we set up for for Americans and our children. Till then treat them equal,  Americans are arested for earning money illegally, we are arrested and our assets confiscated by the IRS. Do these same things to the illegals.   Make them equal, that's what you want right. If the government does this then Illegals will stay out since being arested and all their money being confiscated means there is no reason to come. We don't need a fence. Great I don't want a fence.

 

Muslims... soon the oil will be gone then they can go back to raising camels and we can burn our food in our cars. They will be left alone which is what they are demanding. The great satan will have zero interest in them.

 

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