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Actual News Geezer

Hey Newsifiers,

Rather than respond to all the threads separately, thought I would take a moment to lay out all the open issues here. If I miss any, please accommodate by commenting to this.

1. On February 3rd, 2007, DIG THE HEAVY says:Question.......Is it ok to put your own original headline on a republished story. I see it all the time where you have the same content but another publication will have a different headline.

Highlight tries to import the original headline but often they are dull or irrelevant. Writing a headline can be a lot of fun, and take some effort. My sense is we want to encourage originality.

2.On February 2nd, 2007, killfile says
: I continue to wonder what NPs policy is on content republishing. Fair Use does allow the partial reproduction of materials, but I would hesitate to say that it allows me to copy an entire article from the NYT and publish it to NP.

We just had a perfect illustration with a posting of one of our members who had quoted an entire article from Stars & Stripes magazine (www.stipes.com). We received the typical cease & desist, which we complied with immediately by truncating the article. This is a major issue as far as I am concerned and we need to deal with it. One solution, as I discussed before, would be to limit the number of words that can be captured by our HL tool; the other is to replace the "Quote" window with a blank text box where people would have to write their own header to the quoted material. But I am very open to suggestions.

3. On February 2nd, 2007, publicreader responded to MattE thusly::

Do we need another category in the editorial bubble for this (discouraging people from posting quotes with no original material) ? Inauthentic and incomplete have meanings other than the ones I think we might wish to convey.. something like "Great story but ..."?

Thanks to all of your efforts, we are discovering the inadequacies of our "trust marking" system. I think we do need another option in the flag bubble, something that is less harsh than inauthentic or incomplete, more learning-oriented. Your suggestions will be gratefully accepted.

4. On February 2nd, 2007, matte says:

What is boils down to, I think, is a need to go back and review the whole interaction NP has with contributors - review and rewrite a lot of the 'what we are about' stuff and maybe even push people towards some tutorials on how to write a news story, and how what they are reading now can be integrated into it.

Agree. We do have some tutorial material - click on the Code of Conduct link at the bottom of the page and you'll find some Journalism Tips there.

We are working on a new flagging system right now that will give all editors instant access to our "knowledge base" - so you can essentially instantly paste in suggestions, etc. As this redesign goes on I will copy here the discussions we're having with our Development Team.

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publicreader

Great set of answers- I very much agree that NP should not just be a republishing site. Apart from anything else, this causes no end of legal headaches. How about a bubble heading that says "this appears to be republishing" and then links to a very specific section of the Code, telling the author how to avoid same?

I also like the idea of the Header to the quoted material. In addition to any other merits, this simple device would have the virtue of reminding NP writers that they are in fact, reproducing another's work- it is up to the author to then tell us why we should care-or what the material means. Essentially, this boils down to two heuristic questions: "What are we reading?" and "So what?". Answering those two questions will tap good journalistic originality and creativity because most people have some idea of why what they highlight should matter. It is just that in many cases, the authors don't articulate that.

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DIG THE HEAVY

I'm very green when it comes to publishing rights. How is my local newpaper able to use an entire Associated Press story as apposed to part of the story that leads the reader back to the original source.

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matte

Another request on our editors bubble - make it bigger!. Once we have selected an option it could easily be 3x bigger so we can see all we have written.

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Actual News Geezer

They pay for it. That's the big diff.

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matte

duh - observant - that's not me!

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DIG THE HEAVY

Matte when I flagged your weather story as incomplete earlier I was merely trying to let you know that no one was given credit for the piece. I usually sign my stories at the end......It kinda seems like you retalliated on my taser sory. If thats the case all my stories should be flagged as incomplete. By the way the guy tasered had a goldfish.

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matte

A good point about signing stories, unless the fact that it is posted by the member suffices? Maybe the technology can have a little checkbox that is yes/no for "Are you the original author". Given the push now for original contributions and original intros, this may be a this to seriously consider.

No relatiation, some of the NP heavies will be Incompleted as well...good we can all help raise the standards together ;) 

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DIG THE HEAVY

Cool but if you are the source of the story it should be signed. The source or author  being posted is the equivalent of a seal of authenticity. - DTH

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killfile

They pay a LOT for it.  My company gets an AP feed for our News Page and let me tell you.  Wow that's expensive. 

 

 

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