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Posted by World_Groove at 08:43 on August 21st, 2008 | 33 Posts | 0 Recommendations

I can be a bit cynical at times ("All times", or so my significant other would say)..... .... .. .

We were all asked recently to write up a story about the things you love about NowPublic, and for me that was too hard of task so I am taking the easy road out.

This will probably turn into more of a rant or ramble than a story but I've noticed something about NowPublic recently which seems a bit odd. I'll start out with some stats :

3770 views - 4 gs - 6 comments

451 views - 157 pictures - 27 videos - 1 gs

240 views - 136 pictures - 0 gs - 3 comments

974 views - 232 pictures - 36 video - 2 gs

881 views - 188 pictures - 7 gs

2467 views - 0 gs

These are all taken from some of my recent posted stories. I even posted a story this morning that within minutes had 20 pictures posted to it, yet only 1 comment and one gs (same in one).

It seems to me that there are some here that must be in the relentless search for glory and points, always looking for that easy "10". Seriously, if you have the time to go browsing through a load of pictures, don't you have time for a comment ? and if a story has you looking for pictures in the first place doesn't that in itself make it GS ?

Don't get me wrong, I think it is fantastic people get so involved in stories and take so much time to share their images (and other peoples), but I just can not understand why there is such a vast divide in many cases between adding pictures versus comments and GS left.

And isn't it bizarre when a story can get thousands of views and virtually no comments ?

I say lets all get involved more deeply. Discussions no matter how trivial are what make NowPublic a special place.

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Anon2

the posts which get 100's of photo's aren't uploaded by individual members but by NP staffers from Flickr, each person is given a new account. These are all requested photo's?

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JohnDoe2

The biggest problem with the forum is once stuff is buried here, its very difficult and time consuming trying to locate a post or comment that you may want to re-read?

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World_Groove

I agree, Placing something here seem to me to be in essence a gag order... a story or issue death sentence pure and simple

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World_Groove

I honestly have not paid much attention to the specific people who have loaded to my stories, too many to keep track of, I will look into it further. After reading your comment I would have to say it does sound like a marketing for members campaign. In fact that is how I became a member, I found out about NowPublic through a Flikr photo request.  I do like a good conspiracy theory every now and then. =-)

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Vinny

I would find the forum more use if it was easier to navigate and comments on older threads showed up on the recent comments feed. I have been using the site for over a year and still find it hard to find older threads. As a result members end up asking things that have been raised on previous threads but have no idea the previous thread even exists.


Welcome to death row World_Groove!

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Paschen

We raise that point a week ago or  two, it would indeed be nice if the Forum would be more accessible and easier to navigate! One has know what is in here in order to find it and that is not always easy either. I do hope it will come though, it is a work in progress.

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Amy Judd

I completely agree with you here - the forums could be more user friendly.

We are in the process of over-hauling the forums - we know they are hard to use.

We're going to make them much more user friendly and easier to find everything.

I apologize that things are so hard to find now!


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World_Groove

Oh great forum how you have fallen. Once a great place in the center of a Roman city rife with activity and political debate, now a chamber of whispers up some dark never trodden alley.

One must ask given the difficulty of use, and the stumbling blocks one must transverse in order to find, can this place actually be called a "Forum"? Should it be down graded to a much less lofty title of "Feedback", and remain here otherwise unchanged, as hidden and meandering as always.


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Paschen

You fund it, did you not? so it cannot be that well hidden since you are here.

The forum does need work and so do many other things here as well, and they are being addressed and worked on, even Rome was not build in single day. And since we are not paid nor rich decadent Senators, this Forum will be active when people have time and something constructive to say. 

Be well.

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PlanMyGreen

It sounds like the forum problems are being addressed so I won't comment, but I do agree that this is not news.  Though there are many things in the media that most readers don't care about, reading about how NowPublic contributors get ranked is only important to NowPublic contributors.  I am sure their are plenty of people that want to critique whatever social, news, networking website they view, but frankly why would anyone care about that unless they were directly involved with that process.  I am completely unfamiliar with the stats of how many non-contributors view NP each day, but with all the weight of contributor comments and flags to casual flags and comments, these kind of stories would easily top the site each day.  I personally don't feel like seeing the Top News story each day be of someone suggesting ways to make NP better.  Clearly the common denominator in everyone viewing this forum is that they most likely are active in contributing material to NP and not just viewing it.  Bringing up the flaws and personal suggestions for improving Microsoft or Google might be one story every couple months, while we ALL log onto NP everyday and have our personal opinions which get shared daily.  I don't feel this is any sort of censorship, but a valid way to organize vast amounts of suggestions in a fashion that doesn't annoy a casual reader or even a contributor that likes to see external news as opposed to the views on the medium they choose to read and interact with articles and opinions.

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World_Groove

can one not find something if it is hidden ? of course....But one has to be looking for it.

Yes I found it, because I was told I was breaking the NowPublic "rules of conduct" with a story by a moderator, which I was not, and thus had a story moved here, which I was basically fine with, but still debated.....playing devils advocate a bit.

One can not say some here are not rich nor decadent, nor even Senators, though I find that one unlikely. The forum, in my opinion, if set up like the rest of now public, and with a place on the main page on the main menu, will be used much more often and have far greater input and constructive feedback from users. The current secondary page entrance door, with a chaotic navigation structure is sadly inadequate, and because of its location just not used as much as it would be.

I have posted questions and queries here before, the first of which still has not been answered. Has nothing to do with time of users, even the paid moderators are not always looking into the questions unless it becomes a hot button issue. 

Cheers



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World_Groove

Great Post ! If the Forum was in full working order, or even if some obvious effort or official commitment was made to improve on the forum, I would agree 90%. But since I am not aware of such things being in the works I will give you a 60% agreement and kudos for your excellent post.


The other 10-40% are for things between the lines of what has been written here, which is another story all together.

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PlanMyGreen

Lol, Thank you?

Alright, I will take 60%.  I will admit that I am confused as whether to start a new topic on a few things I have noticed (bugs and such), and have been reluctant to share those things.  Instead it seems easier to just comment on someone else's post that may only partly along the same lines.  Anyways, I think your post is a great read for those interested in contributing, just hate to turn away those that don't know and don't care about the ranking. 


 

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