No prison time for former Cheney aide

by infomatique | July 2, 2007 at 02:08 pm
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President George W Bush has spared former vice presidential aide Lewis 'Scooter' Libby from going to prison for two and a half years for obstructing the CIA leak investigation.
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Kaitlin

infomatique, thanks for getting this story out so quickly. It will now show up on the home page for four hours. If new developments justify it, I'll renew this flag for another cycle.

Michelle Says So
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at 14:25 on July 2nd, 2007

Go figure....  He saves his best buddy.  Don't you just love those all male "secret societies"?  Screw Bush and his old school boys' "posse".

Kaitlin
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at 14:29 on July 2nd, 2007

infomatique, thanks for your speed and efficiency...you get stories up faster than Superman leaps tall buildings. We'll have to start calling you Clark Kent!

Damn that boys club (as Michelle Says So says). It's so embedded and sad you have to laugh. 

If you get a chance, add a few of your thoughts in there...I know you were just trying to get it up quickly, but now you can go back and put your two cents in. :) 

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infomatique

Not being from the USA and not living there I find it difficult to comment on their politics. Europeans have a very different view of the world so if I did make any political comments I might be branded left wing or a commie or maybe something worse like ending up in a holiday camp in Cuba.

I have a problem with "Boys Clubs" no matter where I have come across them and I must admit that I have come across many instances of the practice especially in the workplace. This story is a prime example of a "Boys Club"

mbaumgartner
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at 14:40 on July 2nd, 2007

infomatique, you've convinced me you've done the work - it's authentic. I also think that you've been fair and thorough. I didn't get the sense that you were hiding your biases, or passing off other's work as your own. Or worse -- getting paid by those you cover -- so it's transparent and independent. I also think you deserve praise for being an eyewitness, and for your investigative efforts. Good stuff.

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joellerose

This had already been reported on NowPublic.

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infomatique

That is the problem with highlighting. Your story was not online when I first checked so by the time that it was transmitted and published your story was already published. If the editors wish to merge the two stories and credit you I will not object.

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mtippett

It takes a lot to shock me these days about the depravity in Washington but this is unbelievable.

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Michelle Says So

When I referred to "the boys club"...I'm talking about the infamous Skull & Bones society, The Freemason's, etc.  They are bound to each other and as far as I know, no women are allowed.  They are like a really sofphisticated and morally corrupt fraternity.

Check these out...very interesting: 

The Skull & Bones Secret Society:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=54&name=Skull-&-Bones

The Freemasons: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasons 

 

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babblingdweeb

Do I think this is a abuse of G. W. Bush's power? Yes. Do I think it was a protection mechanism? Yes. Mostly because the Vice President was "spared" in a situation I personally feel he was more accountable for -however, that is just my own personal opinion.

As for "the good 'ol boys club"... 

There are a lot of bad co-ed clubs, all girls clubs as well as boys clubs. There are some good ones too...however, usually within any one group, there will always be a few bad apples to ruin its image. This can be shown with groups, clubs, religions, countries and societies as a whole. Catholics are not bad all people, but there are child molesters amongst them...Germans are not all bad people, but their history has a few pivotal muderers as well.

The Skull & Bones Society is an honors society at Yale that has an interesting history and some awesome conspiracy theories (many grounded in historical fact). Do bonesmen back each other up? I'm sure they do. Their political connections are openly discussed in the media; John Kerry and George Bush Sr. have both commented on their membership in the organization on camera in a formal interview. Is it scary that some political leaders are from this group? Maybe. Groups like Skull & Bones that take the top 5-10% of a class at a top school in the U.S. like Yale are bound to have people that are highly successful. I'm not disputing family favors, nor political favors...I am simply pointing out that highly selective plucking from a highly selective school is bound to have many successes -as well as some "bad apples".

I could talk ears off on the subject of Freemasons; but I won't. I will simply say that the vast majority of Freemasons are regular men (and women in some countries), most of which have a common interest in family, charity and socializing...as well as your standard morals and values. Not too fancy is it? 

There may be a "New World Order" or a group called "Illuminati" -but a large portion of members of organizations like Freemasons and Skull & Bones are not ruling the world. Most of them are working at regular jobs, their families spend time together and they talk about the same things regular folks talk about. They are no worse for society than a Glee Club, Americorps or a kids club.

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joellerose

I commend President Bush for commuting Libby’s sentence.  Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald makes D.A. Nifong look like a paragon of justice for prosecuting Libby for a political disagreement, especially when he knew from the start who the "real" leaker was.  this was a prosecution derived from the 'snit' of the prosecutor.  The real liar, Joseph Wilson, has paid no price.


 


My Reasons for the Pardons




By WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, NY Times  (Excerpt)

HAPPAQUA, N.Y. — "Because of the intense scrutiny and criticism of the pardons of Marc Rich and his partner Pincus Green and because legitimate concerns have been raised, I want to explain what I did and why.


First, I want to make some general comments about pardons and commutations of sentences. Article II of the Constitution gives the president broad and unreviewable power to grant "Reprieves and Pardons" for all offenses against the United States. The Supreme Court has ruled that the pardon power is granted "[t]o the [president] . . ., and it is granted without limit" (United States v. Klein). Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes declared that "[a] pardon . . . is . . . the determination of the ultimate authority that the public welfare will be better served by [the pardon] . . ." (Biddle v. Perovich). A president may conclude a pardon or commutation is warranted for several reasons: the desire to restore full citizenship rights, including voting, to people who have served their sentences and lived within the law since; a belief that a sentence was excessive or unjust; personal circumstances that warrant compassion; or other unique circumstances.


The exercise of executive clemency is inherently controversial. The reason the framers of our Constitution vested this broad power in the Executive Branch was to assure that the president would have the freedom to do what he deemed to be the right thing, regardless of how unpopular a decision might be. Some of the uses of the power have been extremely controversial, such as President Washington's pardons of leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion, President Harding's commutation of the sentence of Eugene Debs, President Nixon's commutation of the sentence of James Hoffa, President Ford's pardon of former President Nixon, President Carter's pardon of Vietnam War draft resisters, and President Bush's 1992 pardon of six Iran-contra defendants, including former Defense Secretary Weinberger, which assured the end of that investigation."

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