Army Corrupt: Secretly Changes Soldiers' Health Profiles to Return Them to Battle

Hello Watermon,

Thank you for your comments and the flag. :)

I was horrified to hear that this had been done so many times.  I checked the GoArmy web site, to see if they had reported on it, but naturally it didn't appear there.  One can only hope that the inquiry will flush out these irresponsible doctors who send our boys back into battle on crutches and addictive pain killers.

I'm really very angry about this story and what it means for our soldiers.  Thanks again Watermon.
       ~Swan

Swan, good work

I must say though, that sadly it demonstrates that every country is just as guilty as any other of ethically and morally corrupt practices.

This places the US army right up there with the Australians and British who exposed soldiers to nuclear contamination during atom bomb testing on the 1950s, Saddam's treatment of opponents, Russia's treatment of dissadents - China, Cuba, many African nations, the list is sadly endless.... 

Very informative post.

     When a vehicle is not prepared to move it is "deadlined".  When a soldier has a profile, they are not prepared to go at 100%.  The United States Army would not approve of changing paperwork to deploy a troop.  If some lower official changed a profile to meet personnel needs they will be disciplined.   It is important to know that some members of the Armed Forces are not following regulations. 

Hello Quotato .. and welcome to Now Public, :)

Thank you for that explanation!  So in essence your confirming that the boy should never have been deployed.  But this is happening over and over again, surely you can't tell me that it's only perpertrated by "some lower official," and that his superiors know nothing about it.

I'm not trying to sound contentious really, I'm just in awe of that fact that you could believe that.

I agree with you absolutely, when you say:

Thanks for stopping by and commenting, ;)
      ~ Swan

hey my husband is on medical profile and his sgt. if making him break it and is also refusing for him to see his surgeon because he had surgery may 19 2008 and it is all messed up. isnt that against army regulation? hes knee looks like a 4 leaf clover and he has pain all over his leg.

my email is lofallinve6705@yahoo.com

please email me

i am a new soldier myself i had extended basic training and ait

i thought joining the army was something good it is corrupt

and no one listens to privates they cover everything up to make themselves look good

i am in iraq as i write this struggling with my own situations it isnt iraq for me it is the chain of command above me why because i am a god fearing good hearted person

i get locked in my room by a e5  and they say oh i forgot you were in there after the 5th time come on already

i was told i am not aloud to discuss this with anyone outside the platoon

i have had things of my destroyed and got threatened they coverd it up saying the person who said that to me ment they were going to do it to themselves but they are still aloud to carry a weapon

there is a soldier in the army who has a real bad knee had surgery twice and wasnt supposed to come to deploy well he is here

he cant lift more than 20 pounds but he is he tried to get help they threatend to throw himi in jail the sgt behind his back to every one else was stating how "they" wanted to beat that person up for not working not allowing them to even eat or go shower

this is our army and no one is doing anything about it

before i got to my first duty station i was proud to be in the army wanted to stay in for 20 years and now i just feel like i cant wait to get out already its too much to be at war alone then to have to deal with this on a daily basis and the people who hold rank over you

are the ones people listen to weather you are right or wrong it doesnt matter there is no justice

then they try to deface youand lie about you see it gets you know where but worse off not worth being in the army if you are a good person it gets you know where absolutely no where unless you go to ocs to become a captain or lt

just a private in iraq serving more than the mission

In what world do you live? 

Who would a medical officer be pressured by to change a soldier's medical records?  The only person would be the soldier.

You're an idiot if you think this is something that happens all the time.  There are plenty of jacked up things to report about in the military, you don't need to report on something that is very rare IF a medical officer did in fact change his records.  What most likely happened is he asked for the change to deploy with his unit (as they are all rather close), then he got there and decided that it was a dumb idea. 

Oh and I'm sure you also delete most posts that go against you're article.  Even some of your "private" and "Anonymous" posts seem like a hoax.

Look at other armies and their soldiers conditions.

kthxbye

I don't know about the "changing" of records, but my husband is going through something like this as we speak. He was injured in Iraq. He was originally diagnosed with a class 3 ACJ separation (his left shoulder) the Dr, after finding out he was soon coming home on leave, told him to take care of it here. So they just wrapped him up and put him on a profile where he could do nothing, not carry his weapon or wear his body armor. Now he is home, he's gotten re-evaluated. The new Dr has stepped it up to a class 4/possible class 5 separation, needing surgery. They've already set the surgery date, put him on a non-deployable status. All he needs is a signature from his commander allowing the surgery. It's been a week now, and we've not been able to get the signature. We've talked to everyone, the Dr has e-mailed memos about the importance of this surgery. My husband's been told that if he doesn't return to Iraq on his scheduled day, he could face disciplinary action.

Today we talked to the Division Surgeon who looked at his records and told us, that if we wait much longer on the surgery, his ligmants will be no good and will have to be replace with cadaver ligaments when they do the surgery at a later date. So he also made a phone call to try to get a signature for us. Still nothing. It makes no sense but this will not be the first time we've had issues with the Army.

The last time I wrote a letter to our local Congressman, and actually got results, but it took 2 months, this time, we don't have that much time, so ..... I'm thinking of calling the media and exposing our issue with the names of the people who are stopping my husband from getting the medical care that he needs.

Just an update, although I think no one else is reading this. Through contacts of my own, from work, I was able to get in touch with our local "Wounded Warrior" Rep, it just so happened that she is also married to a high ranking officer on the base, so she pulled some strings and a bunch of people got thier butts chewed out for dropping the ball on my husband's situation. He got his paper signed and is scheduled to have surgery next month unless they can push it up closer. He will then face about 3-6 months of physical therapy here at home and most likely will not be deploying back to Iraq before the rest of his unit is scheduled to come home.

In our experiences we find there is always a way to fix things you just have to find out who to talk to who can help you. Don't hesitate to write your congressman, it's what they got elected for. But once you do, be prepared, you have to follow through, it may take months. They have to get you to sign privacy waivers in order to investigate your case. Also be prepared for the people you are complaining about to harrass you. It happened to my husband. He was interrogated for 3 hours the last time I wrote the congressman. But in the end they are wrong for that too, you can turn around and file another complaint with IG for that. If your original complaint is legitimate you will see results, you just have to be willing to put up with the BS first. The system works if you use it right.

I don't have all the answers, I just know what we've gone through how we fixed our issues.

good luck to all!

The reason things are so difficult, whether it be with military, government or even the industries (ie reporting a problem or trying to get a refund), is because the system has to compensate for all the scammers out there in the world who try to take advantage of the very system that was put in place to help people.

I have a friend who went through many troubles to receive benefits because they are unable to work.  He has had a few heart attacks, and only has 15-18% of his heart function...this is a legitimate claim.

But because of the flood of "my back hurts, my knee hurts, my neck hurts, I don't want to work any more" claims, which most fraudulent claims land in one of these categories because it is nearly impossible to dis-prove, he went through nearly 2 years of crap.

He has finally received the benefits, but not before going into financial ruin because he could not work in the meantime.

It's sad that we live in a society where so many would rather spend their time and God given talent on figuring out a way to get paid without working, instead of putting that talent to use and getting paid for all their hard work, because let's face it...there's a lot of hard work involved to scam.

Honestly, our military does not function the way it is supposed to/claims to. This is a prime example of the lies and deceit put forth by our government and its components. I ran into a situation myself where, at the usual 0630 PT formation, I was forced by my section to perform PT activities that directly violated my profile because I did not have the paper with me, despite the fact that each and every one of them knew I was on profile until the next month. If you know a soldier has a profile that is still effective, whether or not they have a copy on their person should definitely not be an issue. That can cause conditions to worsen. I have never been able to find a regulation stating this requirement. They just don't take medical needs seriously enough, especially if they're unofficially changing profiles around just to send injured soldiers overseas.

THE SAME THING IS HAPPENING AT FORT POLK TO ME AND SOME OF MY BUDDIES THERE TRYING TO DEPLOY US JUST SO SOME BODY CAN GET MORE RANK I THINK ITS ABUNCH OF HORSE**** BUT WHAT DO YOU DO.ISNT THERE AWAY WE CAN STOP THIS I GOT 2 BAD KNEES AND BACK AND THERE TELLING ME IM STILL GOING NO MATTER WHAT.MAKES ME RETHINK ABOUT THE ARMY I JOINED I FIGURED IT WAS BETTER THAN THAT BOY WAS I WRONG

I am going through the same thing currently.  Had a shoulder injury and subsequent surgery.  3 days after my surgery the army physical therapist ripped out all the work they did in surgery.   Been waiting around to get it looked at more in depth since february.  Just found out today that the brigade surgeon (who is a physicians assistant) is writing me a new profile that makes me deployable.  As per my orthopedic surgeon, I am not supposed to carry a weapon, wear body armor, carry a rucksack or prepare defensive positions.  I also cannot run, do pushups or situps.  We will see what kind of BS she puts on there.  And I am not the only one.  There are at least 10 of us in my unit that they are doing this to right now.  So it happens.