flickr: Free Accounts Crippled by Anti-Social Features [UPDATED]

by dysamoria | October 4, 2007 at 12:58 pm
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flickr troublemaker virtually admits to being the cause of my second accout deletion

flickr troublemaker virtually admits to being the cause of my second accout deletion

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In my current, third, account at flickr, i was re-friending all my previous friends from my original pro account. i was sending them emails about what happened (mere links to here, actually). Then i got smacked with an "anti-spam" mechanism.

hmmm...

One of my friends emailed me (one of the friends i could not email). Like everyone else, she thought i had just deleted my own account and moved on away from flickr. When i tried to REPLY to her email... i got smacked with THE SAME "anti-spam" message.

"Bonk! You've hit a limit of having a new, free account.

To protect the Flickr community against FlickrMail spam, we place a
limit on the number of people you can send a message to when you have a
brand new free account.

Fear not! You can still write to the 10 people you've already sent
FlickrMail to. (We presume you know them, or like them, and are not
being spammy.)

You can also remove this limit immediately by upgrading your account. If you're not ready to do that yet, that's totally cool - all you have to do is hang tight for a week.

Would you be interested to upload some photos while you wait?"

Ten emails a week? This never happened to me when i started back in 2006, prior to being gifted a Pro account. What gives?

NO, i would NOT like to "upgrade" my account. They still OWE me a pro account until June 2008 (which i paid for, which was deleted September 7th 2007 because i defended a friend and myself against dave sewell and flickr censorship). Why in the world would i want to give them money?

And, NO, i am NOT interested in uploading any photos "while i wait" because my account is NIPSAd (again, for NO GOOD REASON!). No one can see my images unless they are marked as a friend. What's the point?

The point of the NIPSA, as far as flickr is concerned, is that they are censoring my "flickr hates me" image. They don't want the public seeing it. There's no other possible explanation.

Flickr: the anti-social photo censoring un-community!

P.S.: apparently buying a pro account allows you to be a spammer!

UPDATE: i went to Kaitlin's flickr pages and decided to look around and leave some nice or fun comments like a friendly person does... like i did when i originally started at flickr, which lead to meeting interesting people... Just now i got the following when trying to post a comment:

You're posting a lot of comments! To make sure you're a nice, well-behaved human and not a spammy bot, please enter the text 'ton stopped' in the box below.

So i did as instructed. But notice, the instructions stop short of telling you what to do NEXT? i didn't know what else to do, so i clicked on submit comment, since there were only two buttons and they were both for comment submission, which i was ALREADY FINISHED WITH. i was met with the "An empty comment box? That wont work!" which i remember and used to find funny... and this:

You're posting a lot of comments! To make sure you're a nice, well-behaved human and not a spammy bot, please enter the text 'corn ten' in the box below.

This time, i entered the text and pressed the "Enter" key instead of clicking on things. The same thing happened, but the threat/instruction didn't reappear. Did i do the right thing? i haven't tried to post again just yet. i had to report on this stu....

Response to flickr:

This is STUPID. You KNOW that it's as easy as "block this person" to eliminate spammers or obnoxious people. This is just a stupid, mindless and half baked (especially) automatic system you've put in place to solve a problem that does not exist. When are you going to do something about the harassment, intimidation and falsification of your OWN behavior and the abuse my flickr friends are getting at the hands of dave sewell via some as yet unknown flickr trick that is hacking their accounts or somehow getting them sent threatening messages from other flickr users they don't know (different people, exact same wording). This is worth posting a separate article about, but i don't have all the details yet and the investigation could be hampered by publicizing what i know. Granted, i don't think the person doing it cares.

What ya gonna do 'bout that lot, flickr folks??? 

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Kaitlin
Kaitlin
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at 14:02 on October 4th, 2007

dysamoria, thank you for your work here--you've hit on something very true, and very recent, I think. I have noticed Flickr (ahem...Yahoo...ahem) gradually tightening their grip on their user's freedoms. Your personal account helps to bring this to light.

Has anyone else had an adverse experience like dysamoria's? Let us know here! 

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dysamoria

Thank you, Kaitlin. Thank you very much. Your words are the exact reason i am posting the things i am posting.

 Others have experienced similar things... i have discovered this doing my research into who to contact at flickr and yahoo. Sadly, it seems NO ONE at EITHER company is worth trying to contact and none of them will reply. The only way to get any action is to make them experience a public beating. i am not one for putting on stunts, so i am reporting my personal experiences with them. i have so many more things i want to attempt to share with people in the public forums of the internet, especially about autism and human behavior and relationships, but right now the flickr situation is a bleeding wound and is taking precedence. Please do follow the link to my blog some time as there is a lot of detail there about this and the other topics. It might be hard to follow, i know, but it has ALL the details. They're just not as digestable as what i have attempted to provide here.

Thanks again!

Jordan Yerman
Jordan Yerman
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at 11:43 on October 6th, 2007

This is all painting a very interesting/disturbing picture: it's all too easy for a faceless company to hide behind auto-generated emails when real live human conflict occurs. It all makes one wonder who the real 'bot is!


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dysamoria

Thanks, Jordan, i appreciate the response. What you said about the faceless company hiding behind auto-generated emails instead of handling real human conflict is exactly why i'm so passionate about this. There has been a trend for the last few decades now that is moving away from any human interaction with clients and customers in many organizations and companies. It is a problem for so many reasons, but the biggest and worst cases are where the product or service IS A COMMUNITY of PEOPLE!

Cheers! 

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