Vancouver B.C : Gang Violence. Too Close For Comfort

by Barry Artiste | September 15, 2007 at 05:16 am
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Barry Artiste, Now Public Contributor
I read this story and shook my head, comments in this story made by (Ex Dairy Farmer -Small Town Mayor and part time Developer)- Minister of Public Safety & Solicitor General, British Columbias Top Cop, certainly has the qualification to make these statements, along with Mr. Phil Moriarity, a former Vancouver police intelligence officer, now heads InterGlobe Investigations Services states the Liberals in the 60's put criminal rehabilitation over strict sentencing.

Well I counter that claim that I know we already have strict laws on the books, with severe penalties. It is up to the Judges to implement them to the letter of the law, other Provinces do not seem to have a problem implementing these same laws.

As Mr. Moriarity to claim helpless Judges state their hands are tied, blame it on Feds and Politicians shows incompetence on the Judges part in their interpretation of what the Public demands.
Judges also privately complain they're bound by the sentencing limits of the appeal courts.

"Trial judges are the most intimately informed," said Moriarity.

Well if Judges are intimately informed, then they should have no problem immediately implementing the penalties based on the laws already on the books.

For example, there is a law which states in Black and White "Life Imprisonment" for Murder as well as Drug offences, Gee how can Judges misinterpret that? Hard to misinterpret dontcha think? But of course we have all witnessed these same Judges release enmasse thousands of criminals or impose "Slap on the Wrist" sentences for these crimes.

Here it is Now Public Readers, "Judges and District Attorneys do not want to get bogged down fighting a multitude of trial lawyers on appeals and motions on a single case, as this results in backlogs of other pending criminal cases in which the Judge and District attorneys must attend to.

The Province doesn't have the time or money to fight unlike criminal organizations who have unlimited money and legal resources it seems to lodge countless appeals of a single case. So a slap on the wrist and move on to the next case is the result.

Why is there such a backlog in criminal cases you ask? Because Slap on the wrist judgements enable criminals to be out on the street to re-offend, once caught again, these same criminals it seems are in front of judges so often it feels like more of a family reunion than a criminal proceeding.

Frustrated Police see no end in sight and sometimes out of frustration in the "Catch and Release" fiasco, take their frustrations out on the criminals, beating the crap out of them, of course these officers are charged to the full extent of the law by these same Judges who for some reason now "See the Light" or Statute and state the "Public" must be protected by vigilante Officers taking the law into their own hands.
Of course "Public" being criminals. Hence the "Real Public" is left to the devices and pleasure of the Wild, Wild West of the criminal underworld.

Thats how I see it, that's reality. That's a revolving door Justice System.

My Final Thought
British Columbia for decades has long been a left wing bastion of Liberalism where criminals have long enjoyed free reign. Crime States from the 70's to present show crime has always been rampant in this province getting worse every year. Thats a FACT!

Alberta for example uses these same laws and sees no problem in handing out severe sentences, but then they do not have the crime on such a large scale as Vancouver does. Why ? Tougher sentencing reduces criminals reoffending if they are already serving 10 -20 years for serious crimes.



Gang Violence. Too Close For Comfort

Solicitor-general urges tougher sentences for thugs who open fire in public

Neal Hall and Kim Bolan, Vancouver Sun

Published: Saturday, September 15, 2007

Gangland gunfire rang out in the Vancouver area this week, revealing victims and suspects having links to the Hells Angels, as well as Asian and Indo-Canadian gangs.

While the brazen public shootings -- one near two public schools in Langley, another at the upscale Quattro restaurant in a neighbourhood of million-dollar homes on Vancouver's west side -- shocked law-abiding citizens, police offered assurances the incidents appear to be unrelated and not part of a gang war.

Vancouver's new police Chief Jim Chu said the recent spate of shootings appear to be just a "spike" of incidents that don't appear to be a trend. At least not yet, he added.

Two bullet holes can be seen in the windshield of the black Hummer SUV that was driven by Len Pelletier. Gunmen chasing the vehicle fired at it while it was near a Langley school.View Larger Image View Larger Image

Two bullet holes can be seen in the windshield of the black Hummer SUV that was driven by Len Pelletier. Gunmen chasing the vehicle fired at it while it was near a Langley school.

The problem, police said, is too many gang members are packing guns for protection and are prepared to use them to settle personal scores and "business" disputes -- police estimate 90 per cent of gangs are linked to the illegal drug trade, especially B.C.-grown marijuana, which is is being shipped across the U.S. border in exchange for cash, cocaine and firearms.

Those responsible for opening fire in public places like schoolyards or restaurants should face stiffer prison terms, Solicitor-General John Les said Friday.

Asked if the fact a shooting occurs in a crowded public location should be considered at sentencing, Les told The Vancouver Sun: "I would be behind something like that 1,000 per cent."

"The whole concept of aggravating factors being taken into consideration at the time of sentencing is of course not unusual in the Criminal Code," Les said.

Like everyone else, Les said he was shocked by the public displays of gunfire this week, particularly the Langley one near two schools as students were arriving.

"The one we had this week with a shooting going on amongst kids on the way to school is a particularly disgusting manifestation of this kind of unacceptable behaviour," Les said.

While there is some risk to the public, he said, people should remember that most of those involved are criminals.

"The thing I notice, and I hope the public notices as well, whenever we see these gang-like shootings, is that invariably it seems that both the victim and the perpetrators are known to police, and secondly, known to one another," he said.

"So I guess the bottom line is, if you are a law-abiding citizen and your people are law-abiding people, there is actually very, very little to be concerned about.

"There is no question that there is potential there for unintended consequences and the public to be in some danger."

The gang problem appears to be growing -- the number of gangs in B.C. increased for the third year in a row, said 2007 police intelligence figures released to The Sun this week.

Insp. Gary Shinkaruk, who heads the RCMP's Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs unit, said this week's displays of violence indicate a complete contempt for public safety, which is what is most startling about these crime groups.

When gun-toting criminals opened fire at a Hells Angels associate near two Langley schools, so many other innocents were put at risk, he said.

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SthPacific
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at 23:56 on September 15th, 2007

Barry Artiste, I like this story. It's good stuff.

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Barry Artiste

Thanks Sth, it is all to common here, all too common that politicians try and tell us their hands are tied.

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SthPacific

Well Iwould hope the federal government has the executive authority to overide any nonsense from the States, or what ever you call them over there. Surely id some one wanted to bring back say public flogging the fed could just step in and say NO.

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Barry Artiste

Thanks again Sth, some of us feel old Lady Justice, feels it just isn't worth getting out of bed in the morning. Thanks to our Lefty Society

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SthPacific

Yes I saw the Cartoon very amusing. I dont know if this is a lefty problem, it's more like Libertarianism gone mad. This is the kind of polarization that we would normally associate with "Accross the Border"

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james elliot kahan

So the system doesn't  work ? lol thats funnie cause every time in there seem to me its working fine . The judges arn't lenient .  If they were there would b a lot more crime out on the streets . you would hear of these events on the radio or watch things of that nature on tv . But  you  dont see things liek that becasue it doesnt happen often . I agree that the whole thing is not preety topic to talk about . These people are already living in terror for their lives . Can u live your every day watching over your shoulder , being parinoid and stressed out all the time? Can you  ? have you ? Its no wonder they pull the stunts they do , they've been taught these things from the first time they made the choice to make the " gangsta " life their  life . No one wakes up one morning an just decides to kill some one .  You say that they deserve what they get ... ok i agree but then y is it that the same person that said those word turns around and starts to feel bad for the person ?  ( i thought you didnt care ? ) Pick one side . Also the justice system is not a reolving door  !

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