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Adult Cyber Bullying- Should laws protecting children also be applied toward the safety of Adults? Part I
Below you will find a partial transcript from a chat room session beginning approximately 2:15am central standard time, December 22, 2007 on AOL's People Connection Created Chat Room LIFE/Over Forty. AOL archives all chat logs but does not make them available to the general public without due process, specifically; a subpoena, however, they are available nonetheless.
This chat room log is very disturbing. It is evidence of a woman who is very angry, manic and focused on her attack. This is an actual event so please be aware of this fact as you read below.
As you read this chat room log, please be aware that cyber-bullying does take place with grown adults as much if not more than it does with children. Many of the attacks launched on others are brutal in many ways and have proven fatal in some cases. This assertion requires more investigation from me and evidence of same at this time. However, having been a participant in the chat room scene, I personally have witnessed, have been and I am a victim of the same kind of threats and abuses on a regular ongoing basis, therefore I can and do attest to the harshness and seriousness of this wide spread and increasingly dangerous problem of online life.
The measures in place by ISP's that host and/or provide as a perk or amenity to their software package, such chat room venues are inadequate at best. The host provider of such venues will have in place, measures or "Terms of Service" (TOS) agreements outlining proper protocol and/or behavior specifically required in order to maintain an account with such a provider. However, failing compliance with such TOS rules and regulations, the remedies for breach of TOS agreements are completely inadequate at best and have many "HOLES" that allow perpetrators back in to the very chat room that the offense took place only to pickup where they left off with a stronger anger and vengeance upon their return toward those deemed (rightfully or wrongfully) responsible for turning them in to get them TOS'ed.
Are there laws protecting people in chat rooms? IF so, where does an ADULT turn for help? Does anyone know? Who is culpable? Does anyone hold or have a duty to claim responsibility for abuses taking place in such online forums? There are more questions than there are answers. BUT THE QUESTIONS need to be asked.
Abuse is abuse no matter where it is committed. Verbal abuse is one of the most under reported, under treated and most heinous abuses of all because of the deep emotional and mental scarring it causes cannot be seen or felt by others thereby is subjective in nature. ITS results are manifested and are evidenced by many social ills. The WRITTEN ABUSE as found online or in cyber space is no different than abuse anywhere else. In fact, it can be worse.
How serious does it get? Are there reported fatalities resulting from chat room activity, banter and/or interaction. Yes, I have knowledge of deaths resulting from "something" that either began or happened in a chat room.
When this happens, who is responsible? Are the ISP HOSTS of such chat rooms culpable at all? Where does one go to find help?
In this series I hope to explore all aspects of online cyber bullying and the various shoot-off abuses of same as well as the actual environment these abuses thrive in. IT IS MY greatest desire to bring public awareness to these very abuses, as in the brutality that goes unhindered inside a chat room of GROWN adults: Adults who have the resource to make good on a promise to kick someone's azz that lives six states away from him. The Adult who has the knowledge to finesse and manipulate in-place mechanisms meant to protect members and remedy issues as they arise.
Just as we answer one question, be sure another will arise. Please come along with me as I take you on a ride that may make you angry, cry, sad and ready to blame me for. Again, the best way is to begin at the beginning and the chat log below is a partial log but one that speaks for itself as you will see as you read it.
Thank you for your interest and happy reading ...
The Chat Log:
Zillabea: your the punchboard and the joke Of the Internet people laugh at your Stupid ramblings on your Multiple sites preaching love and light with spaceships floating around. while you send hate and death letters to people in this room
PamiSu392: she see's UFOs ??
Zillabea: youre a phony hypocrite with Nothing but your old worn out darkened light pics of yourself in a Bikini cuz looks dont matter you say but you had to show 80 pics of yourSelf have dressed and in a bed sheet. yeah youre real credible.
Zillabea: take your Meds
Zillabea: pami type in galaxyline617 on google. youll see
Zillabea: and it aint illegal lady you plastered yourself all over the Internet you are such a Fool
Zillabea: if you dont want people readin your junk dont post it . gee that doesnt take a genius to figure out
Zillabea: and it IS junk
Zillabea: because galaxy you do not practice One single thing that you constantly PREACH to Others
Headsclutrd: I gotta figure out how to care this much....Im sure it would bother me if I cared
Zillabea: are we clear
Zillabea: good.
Zillabea: ~
PamiSu392: hahaha Heads
Zillabea: Heads shes a freak. no more no less
Zillabea: lots of them on the Internet. they stick together
Zillabea: water seeks its own level
Headsclutrd: then again Ive never tried to discourage women from posting scantilly clad pictures of themselves
PamiSu392: LOL
Zillabea: wabs is in bed and caveman must be too Mary also so Gals kind of all alone right now. usually she has several other Bullys screeching at people with h4er
Zillabea: Head its just Cheap
Zillabea: and Desperate
Zillabea: all three of them did it. dans mary and gal
Zillabea: geee the common denominator .. no class
Zillabea: desperation
PamiSu392: ok i'm going in search of breakfast... play nice
Chaos196: wow what was that noise ? sounded kinda like some white trash slobs butt puckering up
Zillabea: nite pami:)
Zillabea: LOL chaos
Zillabea: enlightening chaos thank you
Zillabea: try findin me genius. you cant even find reality. but spell my name right ok Gal.. its Carroll M Edwin:) got it?
Zillabea: lol
Zillabea: do you really think i would stupid enough to use my real name in this forum.
Zillabea: lol
Chaos196: oh well just screen names here, there's no real people behind them, we can say anything we want, galaxy said so last night, if it's funny to teen it's prefectly alright, after all she owns this room, just ask her
Zillabea: Chaos shes jumped the shark. even her own people are embarassed by her Stupid remarks
Chaos196: zilla can't say i blame them
Roseann2530: Zill............ignore it
Zillabea: she cmes in here blows alotta hot air threatens people acts like shes in charge of the Internet. its hard to watch i call her Brittany ;)
Chaos196: hi rose
Roseann2530: Hiya Chaos
Chaos196: hello
Zillabea: Rose .. i usually do i put her on ignore. she has 4 other bully pals.. youll see them Caveman Wabt Mary and Sam
Chaos196: how you doon ?
Zillabea: all bullys. all pathetic
Roseann2530: true but ignore it
Chaos196: all the bullies i've met in my life are really ignorant
Headsclutrd: I feel like Im anxiously anticipating daylight..yet I have absolutely nothing planned for the day
Zillabea: sandra is a 50 year old very emotionally fragile woman living on welfare in an expando trailer. who absolutely LIVES for the Internet and this room it is her life...
Chaos196: heads could always go play golf
Zillabea: and that is plain to see by the amazing number of blogs forums and websites she has decicated to her insanity. one has a dam flying saucer with Music lmao
Headsclutrd: true..never played it before..
Zillabea: then if someone Sees her websites she calls them stalkers lol
Chaos196: golf is really a lotta fun
Roseann2530: where you live Heads?
Zillabea: shes such a fool
Chaos196: i used to play when i was a kid
Zillabea: i see she finally shuttup:)
Headsclutrd: Adlanna metro area..in jawja
Zillabea: yooo whoo Sandraaaa i didnt get TERMED arnt ya embarassed now:) keep logging galaxy lol
Chaos196: zilla she's running to tos to cry and whine
LINBRQQK75: ty Z for getting her to shut up
Zillabea: stupid broad
Zillabea: chaos. i know shes such a follower
Zillabea: doesnt matter she cant do a thing. she has NO power
Zillabea: i know something about her that she doesnt think i no:)
Zillabea: matter of time
Chaos196: yup zilla obvious by how she smooches up to teen, the lowest common denominator on aol
Zillabea: your welcome LIN
Headsclutrd: listen...do ya want to know a secret..
Chaos196: sure
Zillabea: shes a suckup chaos.. Teen absolutely verbally attempts to obliterate people he is atrocious and she laps it up . makes you wanna vomit a woman with no self esteem haning with Trash like teen
Roseann2530: was asking so I could know the weather.....beach or movies
Zillabea: she crossed the line with me.
Zillabea: that aint good
Chaos196: zilla well put
Galaxyline6l7: shutting UP lmaoooo
Galaxyline6l7: LOLLOL Keeping you going is easy to do
Galaxyline6l7: please continue
Roseann2530: Hi Drunkin
Zillabea: im easy goin:) i love to laugh but you know when i get mad which is seldom i do something about it
Galaxyline6l7: melting down has never been so real
Galaxyline6l7: ty
Headsclutrd: no beach..movies not really my bag...Ive almost semi-mastered the unicycle..
Zillabea: fu*k off galaxyline (line fixed and asterisk placed in the position of the “C” --- actual word typed into the chat room)
Zillabea: :)
Zillabea: youre just a nother garden variety NUT
Chaos196: snot nosed jerks come here talking smack and trying to act all bad then run to tattle to tos
Roseann2530: cool,Heads
Zillabea: chaos.. takes 4 or 5 of um to harass one person
Zillabea: lol
Zillabea: she thinks shes cool hanging with Teen and mary and that Rude Sam
LINBRQQK75: gaga is worried now...as she should be
Zillabea: they hav no idea how bad they really look
Drunkincarpets: hello rose
Zillabea: LIN she should be trust me
LINBRQQK75: i know
Roseann2530: where in NJ?
Zillabea: ive called .. several people about the harassment of late
Chaos196: yup zilla, takes that many to combine their vocabulary to come up with anything that would equal a 5 year old
Zillabea: and sent the logs
Zillabea: enough.
Drunkincarpets: carteret
Roseann2530: near Edison?
Zillabea: it will be interestng to see if Fishead goes when Galaxy does
Zillabea: ::smile
Drunkincarpets: not to far from there
Chaos196: you think she puts lipstick on that sphincter on the front of her face ?
Zillabea: anyway Sandra to make a long story short.. the next time you get so excited , you almost we your pants.. laughing at me and saying Ive been Termed and YOU termed me.. ya better make sure i really am Termed:) cuzz obviously Im Not:)
Zillabea: LOLOLOLOL
Zillabea: i rest my case
Zillabea: {S ilikeher
Zillabea: :) see ya
Chaos196: maybe her 'God' idle will come back to rescue her with his 75 word vocabulary
Headsclutrd: guess I could do some laundry...clean my room...might waste a nun..so many things to choose from
Chaos196: and that's being generous
Chaos196: yeah heads i got bored and did my laundry earlier, fun
Headsclutrd: ladies...germs....this stuff is supposed to be fun...perhaps we can try a lil harder next time...ciao
Chaos196: later heads
This log is pertinent because it contains an element of many abuses and TERMS of SERVICE (TOS) violations at least once if not more throughout the log. Cursing, threatening, harassing, stalking, and defamation are all prevalent elements in that log. This log is representative of the normal course of chatting in a chat room and it exposes the normal mode of behavior by those who wish to have power and control over such venues and people who frequent such venues.
How much can a person take of this type of banter and diatribe before it takes a toll? A critical thinker would ask why would a person continue going to such a chat room and submit to that kind of verbal beating day after day. IT is a valid question and I propose that the reasons any person goes back to such a place and takes such abuse day after day has a psychology all its own. However, in most cases one might assume, the chat room cyber-bullied victim usually has a following of acquaintances in a particular chat room that they go to converse and interact with day after day. Additionally, a victim may refuse to give in to being abused and going back is their way of fighting said abuse. THE answers are anyone’s guess and I do not think that the focus should be placed on the victim in any way whatsoever. By placing blame on the victim, the bullying does not get addressed and/or remedied. This fact alone warrants attention be placed on the bullies and not the victims.
When reading this chat log among many others, what keeps coming to my mind is how a bar or a club that serves alcoholic beverages, in many States are held culpable and responsible if a person is served too many alcoholic drinks in their bar and/or establishment, then proceeds to drive and have an accident and or have any other incidents attributed to the drunkenness achieved in their establishment. What makes a host of any ISP, such as AOL, or MySpace or Yahoo or any other HOST for sights that allow communal online communications, socializing or gathering any less culpable? Do these very Online Entities have absolutely no responsibility regarding events like this one?
My answer to this question is YES! Yes AOL, MYSPACE, and YAHOO as well as any other HOST to public online meeting places, all have not only a responsibility but a duty to police the chat rooms or any socializing venues they OFFER to the public in general, in a fair and democratic manner with justice for all. THEY are culpable in part. They are responsible in part. They should be held to task as well as any member or person frequenting these venues. Accountability is absolutely necessary in and should be a mandatory priority to online safety for us all.
In Part II of this series we will review and examine the death of a young beautiful child resulting from the cyber-bullying of a Grown Woman and two accomplices via the MYSPACE site. This case in itself is ominous and foretells a trend if something is not done to stop this horrible act of cruelty.
Thank you for reading…
Part II
Adult Cyber Bullying- Should laws protecting children also be applied toward the safety of Adults... Part III
http://www.nowpublic.com/crime/adult-cyber-bullying-should-laws-protecting-children-also-be-applied-toward-safety-adults-part-iii
Part IV



Most RecentMost Recommended Comments (19)
at 09:41 on December 22nd, 2007
Hi, I'm interested in this story and have a hunch it deserves a "Good Stuff" flag--if it were all available. I've tried following the link and I only get to a Windows Live ID log-in screen.
Mobbing and cyber-bullying are important issues on today's internet.
at 19:36 on January 2nd, 2008
What an interesting story! I've heard that regular chatters from that particular room have received death threats, wishes for bad fortune to befall them and their families along with other harassment by email from other OF chatters, particularly those with red fonts. It would be a much better world if we all practiced what we preach. Best of luck in your quest to eradicate cyber bullying from the internet.
Cheers!
at 22:42 on January 2nd, 2008
Again, as before El E Fant, I have asked you to stop harassing me. I do not know what measures to take to stop your cyber-stalking, cyber-harassment and cyber-abuse. HOWEVER, if you wish to continue I am very happy to have it continue here on NowPublic. This is a public forum and it is very important to highlight such threats as you pose here and now as PUBLICLY as possible. YOU prove that cyber-stalking, cyber-harassment and cyber-abuse is a prevailing factor of online life.
Thank you for being a continuing active part of this series.
at 19:27 on January 2nd, 2008
It would be an interesting story if she did practice what she preaches. As a member of that chat room, I have witnessed her wishing death on people and her friends making horridly vile racial slurs. The woman that is on the posted log has been victimed by the author and her friends for years. It is no surprise she fights back. Anyone who has lost a loved one and has to read nightly that she killed him, would know how zillabea must feel about the harassment she has endured at the hands of the author of this article. While nobody is perfect, if you spend your time bullying and harassing others online, you cannot come back and cry when it happens to you. All of the posts she had made at the time this log was made have been conveniently deleted. She is telling only one side of a twisted story - a story that she has been a major player in. Pity this "journalist" can't provide the full story and facts. She merely paints a picture making her the innocent victim.
at 23:31 on January 2nd, 2008
This woman PEEBS claims to be a United States Marine. This cyber-stalking, cyber-harassment and cyber-abuse is CONDUCT UNBECOMING for any military person past or present. This lady is one that I hold in high regard even now as she posts lies and complete deceit as she has done here. She has lost herself to the cyber gang that consumes their daily time and nights and I feel sorry for her and what she does to others such as what she is doing to me here and now.
Peebs is just one of a group of cyber bullies that stalk, harass and abuse, as proven here in her comment. Peebs along with El E Fant (prior comment) are just two members of a cyber gang. Further, none of the allegations made above are true nor can they be proven.
Anyone interested in this drama and/or saga can and SHOULD subpoena OFFICIAL ARCHIVED COPIES of chat logs from AOL. Any other document presented within this comment section are more than likely altered in some way. THE CHAT log above within the content of my publication can be and should be compared to AOL ARCHIVED OFFICIAL CHAT LOG DOCUMENTS for anyone questioning the integrity of that partial log. THE Integrity of the included partial log is in tact and has NOT been altered in any way whatsoever.
Again, thisCOMMENT is evidence of the cyber abuse that is prevalent on the Internet today. Something seriously needs to be done to help stop these vicious attacks AND EVIDENCE proves that CYBER GANGS are growing rapidly and is the NEW TREND in cyber-abuse.
Because of my reply to the comments of El E Fant and PEEBS, I expect more comments that will be including lies, harassment and allegations from bogus Screen Names from the Chat Room AOL's Life Over Forty to be. I will not be surprised by this probable event at all.
REMEMBER FOLKS, these are grown adults OVER FORTY years of age. DO I MAKE MY POINT OR NOT!? Should cyber-bullying laws that are normally applied to cases involving children also be applied to adults? I think so.
PEEBS thank you for helping me to prove my case on Cyber-Bullying. Good luck to you and God (or whatever HIGHER POWER you pray to) Bless you and Keep you.
at 20:03 on January 2nd, 2008
Inextricably missing from this article is any mention of personal responsibility.
As any good parent would do they monitor their children's activities online. Steering them away or blocking them from harmful messages.
One must then ask the question should adults be given the free will to monitor themselves or should big brother be watching.
Clearly there are situations such as pedophiles . children's cyber bullying, identity theft etc where such monitoring is appropriate and necessary. In this situation the line blurs and it's doubtful at best that said monitoring should apply. Most chat rooms offer the ignore button to easily rid personally offensive remarks . Liberal use of this staves off unwanted drama.
There are so many communities online to find a place to call home if chat is your recreational choice. Should one not fit your brand of commentary your free will gives you the choice of many others. If the author of this article felt so harassed why then would she continue to go back for more of the same ?
The very basis of insanity speaks to "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome." If the author of this article spent more time exploring the real problems of the world rather than placing herself in the victim role of what amounts to an adult playground she might find a better outlet for her creative energy.
at 23:24 on January 2nd, 2008
DEAR TO CHAT,
ASKED and ANSWERED IN Part II of this series.
Thank you for your comments (I think.) I guess you missed and I do not know how you did, the Title to this publication, in which it clearly states that there is a Part II and is a series.
Please feel free to read Part II and make any comments and/or criticisms in the comment section provided there. Every question YOU have asked has been answered in Part II.
KNOWING YOU are a Member of the very chat room highlighted in this publication and ME KNOWING who you are I am surprised you would take time out to make a comment. At least it did show some thought even if it was not very much. YOUR TRADEMARK of NAME CALLING and LABLING GAVE YOU AWAY! BUT YOU FORGOT TO ADD YOUR NORMAL "TAKE YOUR MEDS" STAB!
AND ONLY an insane person would blame a VICTIM of any circumstance. Placing blame on victims always exonerates the perpetrator.
Further, To Chat, if you were as learned as you wish the world to think you are YOU would know that the growing trend of CYBER GANGS kind of makes the INFAMOUS IGNORE BUTTON moot and useless. BUT thank you for your suggestion anyway.
I suggest YOU start concerning yourself with exploring at least ONE of the PROBLEMS of the WORLD and maybe get up off your bahonkey and out of that chat room and start doing something about them. YOU KNOW... KIND OF LIKE I am DOING NOW!
Have a wonderful day.
at 22:13 on January 5th, 2008
If you want to write a convincing article on cyber bullying and harassing, you should use yourself as the example of the harasser. While you can claim that I am the stalker, it isn't me that has your screen name, quote and a nasty comment regarding the quote on my profile. If you are so against and repulsed by cyber harassment, why did you take the time to lift information off of my profile (that had nothing to do with you) and paste it onto yours? You may write about how it needs to be stopped, but your actions speak louder than your articles. For those who do not believe me, feel free to look at her AOL profile on the name GALAXYLINE6L7.
at 08:57 on January 6th, 2008
I am very familiar with that putrid chat room and its extremely sick inhabitants. Regulars there are so entrenched in the filth there, so used to the abuse and nastiness, that they no longer even recognize it as heinous. They accept ridicule, humiliation, hatred and cruelty as normal. Those who don't perpetrate it, are complacent with it.
PEEB (Mz PBnJ), you are one of the worst offenders, along with Zillabea, JKE52here, LINBRQQK75, Joe Malec, TeenIdle46, AEEChk and others. You revel in it, live and breathe it, seek validation and self-worth from it, encourage it, perpetuate it. If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating, all they need do is witness the excitement and delight that starts to swirl in there when some poor soul makes a mistake. You send each other logs of the chat, you laugh at tragedy, you ridicule successes and positives. You wallow in the excrement and you act like that is what good people do. And the average age in there is 50-something! That's right, no one can can excuse you or the rest of them based on youth or naivete. No one can excuse you, period. You are all lost souls, base individuals who are so far gone that you no longer recognize basic human decency.
Of course you, PEEB would try to somehow justify or flip the outrageous cyber-bullying, otherwise you might have to actually see yourself honestly. Oh sure, Zillabea has been attacked in the past. Most people are attacked and move on, or consider the source. If they are good people, they don't participate, much less encourage the hatred. But Zillabea chose to return the hatred a million-fold, and you, PEEB think you can convince people that Zillabea is somehow justified in her constant, never-ending, and unfocused spewing of filth. Zillabea personifies the excrement and the illness that lives in that room, and you, PEEB have actually tried to hold her up as an example of righteousness. That is how far gone you are and that is what all of those people have become.
I stopped going to that room a long time ago and I would advise anyone there with even a shred of decency to do the same, before they too, lose their perspective on what is normal and what is decent. Thanks to people like PEEB, Zillabea, JKE52here and TeenIdle, that place has become a place where hatred and evil have made a home. As in the movie "Carrie" it needs to be burnt to the ground.
at 14:37 on January 6th, 2008
FairnJust,
If you stopped going in to that room a long time ago, how did you find out about this forum and topic ?
at 21:27 on January 6th, 2008
Sage, I have friends who still go there and they let me know. I hope that startling newsflash doesn't throw your world askew. Try to stick to the topic; Nancy Drew you're not.
at 19:18 on January 7th, 2008
LOLLOL Touche'
at 18:07 on January 6th, 2008
So far.. this just looks like another night in the chat room.
It's not educating the masses. It's not saving anyone. Again most adults know enough to turn the computer off if it's causing them harm. Be it one person or a "gang" if you don't enter the room you can't feel the sting of any written word.
It's feeding Gala's narcissistic need for attention .
For all the fighting that Gala claims go on since she's been gone.. the nights have been down right pleasant.
We all know you'll be back.. Odds are you are logging the room as we speak.. If you are lurking.. take a look at how well the room flows without your brand of " chat" in it.
at 19:07 on January 6th, 2008
Hahaha TO CHAT, how funny you are.
The room is flowing like the Nile, as in denial.
Your EVERYONE KNOWS statement is not even applicable to the topic matter. AND AGAIN it enables the abuser even more.
I am not one to lurk. No need to.
And again, you in true form have no choice but to vent your pent up emotions by calling names. HOW apropos
But the sad thing is that you pass judgment so quickly. How sad for you. Do you want me to fail in this endeavor?
We do not know if this article is helping anyone or not and I actually just wanted to BRING AWARENESS to this subject and give a few resources for Victims to have and use should they need to.
By the sheer numbers of readers this article counts, it seems to be getting read. That is what I wanted and hoped for. Anything else is just sweetening the pot for me.
Be sure to read Part III will ya please. You may want to know YOU can be annoying. And this is important to understand.
Bye now.
at 22:09 on January 6th, 2008
What I am seeing here are several examples of cyber bullying and harassment by the people who are complaining about it. Please use another venue for your obvious anger issues. This is not a private forum to voice your daily woes, or to rail against others. Perhaps you can make a blog or website which would be more suitable for your unbelievably Hypocrisy..
at 22:16 on January 6th, 2008
SAGE,
Please stop disguising yourself as different people and venting here.
If you do not like cyber abuse as a topic or talking about it then DO NOT DO IT and then it would not be a topic!
I know who you are and I always have. YOU need to cease and desist!
at 19:14 on January 7th, 2008
"Please use another venue for your obvious anger issues. This is not a private forum to voice your daily woes, or to rail against others."
OMG, now that I have this series done, I am sitting here taking all these comments in and I am laughing so hard.
PRIVATE? FORUM? VOICE? DAILY WOES? RAIL?
LOLLOL! WHAT do you think this forum (?) is SAGE? YOU tell us okay? AND who are you to say what it is and what it is not?
Can you NOT read? This is about the ISSUE of OHHH NEVER MIND... thank you for making me laugh!
at 18:32 on October 22nd, 2008
It isn't just chatrooms, I have some "friends" who are AOL customers who have a Yahoo website, and it is vicious. They call people all sorts of names I won't report here, amd they allude to murders, plamns to kill each other--heavy criminal shit. Is there a way I can get them thrown off AOL?
at 21:19 on August 15th, 2009
I used to enjoy AOL chatrooms years ago. Now aways I dont go there because I just got sick of all the bickering in most rooms. And AOL cut/out alot of its public rooms.
Yahoochat is another story altogether. Though the has the voice option in the rooms, those spambot-pm's are atrocious and you can't avoid them when you have to type in those alpha;bata codes. That is when they hit you the most.
Anyways cheers,
R