Picture This -- Photography Restrictions in NYC?!

by Brian A Kennedy | July 27, 2007 at 08:45 am
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Want to take a photo on the streets of Manhattan? Soon it might get a lot tougher. New proposed rules from the Mayor’s Office of Film are requiring permits for a lot of people who photograph and film in New York. The rules state that (this is directly from the Office's website):


1) Film or still photography activity involving a tripod and a crew of 5 or more persons (at one site for 10 or more minutes) would require a permit, or the same activity among two people at a single site for more than 30 minutes. However, note that this situation is RARE for recreational photographers;

2) Applicants unable to meet the insurance requirement may be eligible for a waiver of insurance;

3) Still photographers engaged in "permitted" activity (activity where you need a permit) would require insurance. "Permitted" activity can include those where vehicles or equipment other than hand-held cameras are used.


Although the office claims that these rules are merely a codification of regulations that have been in place for decades (although they only mention in the fine print that they require $1 million of insurance), the city’s creative community is up in arms about this. Picture New York, a new activist group made up of NYC-area photographers and filmmakers, have organized an online petition and a protest in Union Square on Friday, July 27 (6:30 EST if you’re interested).

The petition, in particular, has drawn a hell of a lot of attention, with signatures by everyone from scruffy indie filmmakers to bigwigs at places like Getty (as well as Michael Stipe, Patti Smith and Amy Arbus). (Disclosure: I share office space with two of the group's co-founders Beka Economopoulos and Jason Jones, who run The Change You Want to See gallery in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, ).

The worst thing about these new regulations is their sheer cynicism -- the code is basically designed to be a weapon to use against people who piss off the cops for other reasons, not to be enforced across the board. I’ll be money that the cops aren’t going to start citing tourists from Ohio who take too long snapping photos outside The Lion King (because there just aren’t enough cops to do that)– it’s going to be used against demonstrators, guerrilla filmmakers, people like that.

As Beka says, "ultimately, these regulations pave the road for selective and discrminatory enforcement. The Caberet Law, the parade and assembly regulations - it's a 'you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride' mentality that gives the police room to arrest someone only to have the charges thrown out later."

Or as the New York Daily News puts it:

The regulations, drawn up with the complicity of the Law Department, are, in a word, nuts. They address a nonexistent threat to the public weal. They were written as if small bands of rogue photographers were running amok. And they won't withstand court challenge unless the cops come down equally on everyone taking pictures, including mom and dad filming junior and pals at the playground.

The reason for this nonsense is that in May 2005, a few overzealous cops stopped a documentary filmmaker who was videotaping taxis near the MetLife Building. They detained him, confiscated his camera and told him, among other things, that he needed a permit. The New York Civil Liberties Union filed suit and discovered that nowhere among all the materials promoting New York as filmmaker heaven did Oliver's office define who needed a permit and who didn't.

So the bureaucrats wrote rules, and beginning in September two or more people with a camera in one area for a half-hour, or five or more people with a camera and - gasp! - a tripod in one place for more than 10 minutes will have to have a permit for their "photo shoot." And don't forget that $1 million insurance policy.

Herewith a startling statement: Our friends at the NYCLU, with whom we disagree so frequently, are right. (Hell doth freeze over.) The regs are boneheaded. The police already have the power to stop people, with or without cameras, from blocking sidewalks and streets. And even city lawyers say upfront that the rules will be selectively enforced. Tourists with camcorders will get a pass, and those unable to afford $1 million in insurance will be granted waivers.


Photography restrictions are increasingly becoming a hot-button issue for a number of reasons --  the growing number of “Private/Public” spaces, the growing interest in amateur photography brought by cheap digital cameras and cameraphones, and the increasing organization of those amateur photographers through Flickr and other online photo-sharing groups. For more, check out our stories on photo bans in Silver Spring and Rockville, MD.

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Bill Adler
Bill Adler
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at 09:10 on July 27th, 2007

This is a very important story -- you're right that this proposed regulation can be used by the police to stop any photograher they want.  --Bill

Jordan Yerman
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at 09:33 on July 27th, 2007

This new ruling would be way too conducive to abuse, in my opinion.

 

(disclosure: I have signed this petition) 

ryan
ryan
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at 10:48 on July 27th, 2007

Brian A Kennedy, Good Stuff...the increased regulation of independent and smaller productions seems like an attempt to crush that industry and limit its capacity to produce quality content.

infomatique
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at 12:04 on July 27th, 2007

Brian A Kennedy, this topic is of great interest to me. Good stuff.

jamaen
jamaen
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at 22:00 on July 27th, 2007

Originally heard about this kind of thing a couple months ago by Alex Jones. I keep hoping he'll be wrong about something...

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everchanging

Here is what I have experience while taking photos here in Phoenix and is the first time I have openly said anything on the web, worth a read.

On 7.10.2007 I was taking still photo of what is or was known (?) as Phoenix's U.S. Immigration office from across the street on central avenue in central phoenix. I was trying to get photos of the flags thinking it was still U.S. Immigration (and technically still is, I think?) and wanted a photo of the Immigration flag for the story on Arizona's new job law that passed about this time.

While taking the photos I notice a bus being loaded and personnel moving about. I continued taking photos after the bus left the property and started to notice for personnel looking my way. Feeling I did not need a new headache I packed up and started moving south on the same side I had been. That is when I notice a person flanking me on the other-side of the street at an even pace with me. Being on central avenue which is under construction for a new light rail line and not easy to move along by car or foot. I came to the next intersection and it was closed (barricaded) on my side and was told to cross to the other-side! Looking across at where I was going to cross was the same person who had flanked me from the Immigration building and was waiting like I have you now? Thinking this would not be in my best interests to go on their turf, I went under the barricade and then continued to take other photos of buildings, construction and such! Hoping and thinking it would be less liking for them to follow me, which it did. Being watchful I continued to make my way to get a coffee at a local coffee house near by. thinking still of what and where if at all I would be stopped, well as I was taking a photo if a half alive and half dead or dying tree It happened.

A small unmarked mini-van pulled in to the drive where I was and at first two "large" men got out (fully armed and armored clothing) and told me to stand still and that they where with "homeland security", then a medium size men (in a suit) came around from the passenger side and asked if he could see the photos of the building I was taking photos of earlier (Immigration office). I then said what took you so long? He stated what do you mean? I then stated I had notice I was drawing attention to myself for the photos I was taking of the Immigration office! He then stated that at the time I was taking photo a bus was being loaded and that he did not want to have photos taken of the people being loaded or the bus, cameras or of the security gates and asked if he could see the photos. I stated he may, while holding my camera he viewed the photos in question. While he viewed them he continued to ask questions of why I was taking the photos.
I told him I like reflections of glass on building because most people only view the building as a whole, which I don't and that I was taking photos of the flags because i like to document thing. He then asked if I would be posting them or using them in any way, at which I stated i would not be.
After viewing the photos in question he asked for ID, phone number and employment information. I was able to keep all photos and my equipment.

This took all of about 10 minutes in open public view, thankfully! They then got in the mini van and left. After which I turned toward the street again and found too my liking that about six to seven people had watched the whole event unfold. So everyone knows I was near a mile away from the Immigration office and 40 to 45 minutes had passed before I was stopped and questioned. During that time I did not notice any one following me or any of Phoenix police at any time.

Note: Original I believed if I had crossed the street instead of going into the construction zone, I would have been detained and questioned more and without possible being released or otherwise. Some of you may laugh at this thought but it has happened here in phoenix by others through conversation I have had with them or been mentioned of people knowing people who have had it to someone else they know.

Welcome to 1933 Europe pre-world war II, If you did not think so then why stop someone for taking photos in a free country ???????????????

oh when I got home to view the photos it turns out that the flag was not of U.S. Immigration, BUT A FLAG OF HOMELAND SECURITY INSTEAD.
Also the camera he mentioned are not visible any where in any photos, so I questioned this to my self and the only answer I have is that they are located on top of the flag polls themselves "the ball on top" is reflective only on the top portion? a thought and most likely the answer.

Now if I am right even under an alias name here I am know known and most likely coming to being visited for the second time if they find me of interests or worthy to question again. Though this time it will not be so much fun.

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matte

what a beatup - shame Brian for your intro implying it would apply to anyone walking down the street...as your first quoted passage says

Film or still photography activity involving a tripod and a crew of 5
or more persons (at one site for 10 or more minutes) would require a
permit, or the same activity among two people at a single site for more
than 30 minutes

So its not applying to everyone, just professional photo shoots ....

Sentationalistic headlines -yee haa 

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Brian A Kennedy

Matte, please tell me how "Photo Restrictions" is sensationalistic and "soon it might get a lot tougher" is misleading. And it's not just about commercial photographers -- there are a lot of people who use multi-person crews who aren't doing it for them money. You're way off base here.

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matte

It is sensationalist and misleading through its omissions in the headline and intro text.

An accurate headline and intro that clearly indicates this applied to pro photographers only would fix this.

Needs improvement 

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matte

unless its a camera club outing maybe - but they would not be the ones being targetted I would not think .... a grab for cash by local govt?

 The headline and the intro does nothing to indicate that it does not apply to happy snappers/tourists - that's why it should be in New of the World, beside the stories of two headed horses. 

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Brian White

I live in Silver Spring.  That story is outdated now.  There was so much outcry that the developer reversed their position.  You are free to snap pics anywhere in Silver Spring now.

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