Rudy Attacked by NY Liberals

by BigT | October 17, 2007 at 09:21 pm
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You know what, I may have been a little premature on my backing of
Fred Thompson because Rudy is getting it worse from the liberals than
any of the republican nominees. A New York Observer piece out today tells the story about how NY liberals are totally freaking out about a Giuliani presidency.
According to the article those years of living under the Giuliani
regime were like hell for New York’s liberals and they just can’t
figure out why the republican voters are so behind this guy. I could be
wrong but I think the two most important factors behind his support is
his name recognition and the fact that he would have a good chance at
defeating Hillary.

The first attack on Rudy was done by the New York Observer themselves with the picture they chose.

Giuliani as a grotesque monster.

Depicting him as a grotesque monster is kinda rude to say the least.
But, hey, it’s art and I could be totally wrong because I really don’t
understand any art whatsoever. So let’s get into what the NY liberals
have to say.

Here’s an excerpt about an ex-ACLU fella:

Norman Siegel, who served as the director of the New
York Civil Liberties Union during Mr. Giuliani’s tenure as mayor, said,
“I’ve been saying to people in New York, especially the liberal
community that I’m proud to be part of, that unless the truth is
revealed about the real Rudy, he could win, and not just the Republican
nomination, but the presidency as well. Most people in New York look at
me, and they say ‘no way.’ They say it can’t happen. The political
leadership in New York is underestimating him. They are really in
political denial. I say to people, ‘You better wake up.’”

This guy must be indicative of liberals in NY because he says that
they are telling him that there’s “no way” Rudy could become the
republican nominee. So what I’m about to say goes for all of the NY
liberals: you guys are nuts. He served two terms as your mayor and made
New York City inhabitable and a destination for tourists once again.
And, not being a New Yorker myself, you have to do something right to
be reelected that first time. Sure, if you’re a senator or a
congressman getting reelected is like breathing in some districts but
getting reelected as a republican mayor in New York City just wasn’t
something people thought was possible before Rudy came onto the scene.

So either these liberals who are surprised to see Rudy as a possible
nominee are ignorant of political realities or are insane. Judging by
what Charlie Rangel had to say about Rudy I would have to go with the
latter diagnosis.

Mr. Rangel said that he was nevertheless confident that
Mr. Giuliani’s fortunes would eventually decline, whether because of
the incongruity of his social positions with those of the base of the
Republican Party, or because of his unusually eventful family history.

Referring to Andrew Giuliani’s reportedly distant relationship with
his father since the ugly bust-up of Mr. Giuliani’s marriage with Donna
Hanover, Mr. Rangel said it was because “sons respect and admire their
fathers, but they love their mothers against cheating goddamn husbands.”

And touching on another of Mr. Giuliani’s public difficulties—Mr.
Giuliani’s close association with Bernard Kerik, the disgraced former
police commissioner—Mr. Rangel said he regretted that all the personal
problems surfaced so soon in the electoral process. “I’m sorry this
damned thing turned out so early because, really, just like Kerik, it
would have bombed his ass out,” said Mr. Rangel.

But Mr. Rangel said he still looked forward to Mr. Giuliani’s
Republican opponents making an issue of his infidelity—“Romney could
say, ‘I’m entitled to three wives,’” Mr. Rangel said—and said that when
it came to abortion, “The church will take care of his ass all alone.”

Besides being a religious bigot Mr. Rangel’s hope in Rudy’s eventual
demise is misplaced. I’m not saying that Rudy is going to win but he’s
going to be competitive no matter what the NY liberals hope for His
success or failure rests not on his personal history, everyone knows
about that, but will be determined by his stance on the issues and the
specter of a Hillary Clinton presidency breathing down the necks of
republican primary voters. Plus, Rangel is just a bitter political hack
who absolutely despises everyone who disagrees with him, especially the
voters.

“It’s totally unbelievable,” said Charles Rangel, the
dean of the New York Congressional delegation and a longtime adversary
of Mr. Giuliani. “I refuse to believe that this [Giuliani becoming the
republican nominee] could possibly happen to our country. I have too
much confidence in our country to believe that this could really
happen.”

I just don’t get why the NY liberals would so hate a Giuliani presidency. He’s not
a conservative. Rudy has a mean liberal streak in him and I would think
that it would have been conservatives leveling the personal attacks at
Rudy. Boy, I was wrong. For some reason the most leftist of the
frontrunning republican hopefuls is the one who is the most hated on
the left. It just doesn’t make sense.

The only logical explanation is that the liberals are worried that
Rudy is our silver bullet, so to speak, for Hillary Clinton. Look at it
this way: for the democrats they would have a Marxist pushing for
universal health care and other welfare programs costing hundreds of
billions of dollars. Plus, she will not be able to satiate her leftist
base by surrendering Iraq to the terrorists. for the republicans we
would have with Giuliani a guy who has the experience of running one of
the biggest and most dysfunctional cities in the world and revitalizing
it. Sure, he’s a social liberal but he is a bulldog on the war and with
crime.

I think that may be it. Rudy Giuliani is someone who knows how to
lead and has earned the confidence of the American people. This is what
has to be the scariest thing for the NY liberals who so vocally and
viscerally hate this man. He could actually win. BigT

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Brian A Kennedy
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at 04:38 on October 18th, 2007

As a New Yorker (who's actually voted for Republican candidates every now and then), two things make me want to not have Giuliani for a president:

1) Rescuing a city like New York from the edge of disaster takes a different skillset and mindset then being President of a large, diverse, not-about-to-go-bankrupt country. Giuliani was very much an "at least he made the trains run on time", semi-authoritarian mayor -- which NYC really needed at the time, admittedly. But I don't want Putin Lite for a president.

2) His constant attempts to capitalize on 9/11, which a lot of us see as really cynical and tasteless.

3) The fact that his foreign-policy beliefs make Cheney seem like Jimmy Carter -- and his foreign-policy experience is pretty much nil. 

gryphon
gryphon
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at 08:40 on October 18th, 2007

Liberal NYers hate a GOP candidate?  Come on, they hate everybody with a rational thought.  I think they know Rudy the best, so that is teh cause for teh sudden 'two minutes of hate."


Plus, NYers know that he does what he says, so tehy are really afraid that he may carry out his foreign policy strategy, sometihng conservatives can only hope for, but liberals fear.


Third it amazes me that they do not recognize that Giuliani is teh most liberal serious GOP candidate and that he is a worst case scenario candidate for Republicans.  In all honesty, if Rudy wins, it will be a serious compromise for teh GOP, as the mainstream conservative wants Romney or Thompson.  As exemplifies by teh evengelical support Romney received this week, DESPITE, being a mormon and Giuliani being a quasi-Catholic. 

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