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Venezuela: The Future is Today
After the dust settles from todays Venezuelan vote, the impact on the U.S. and Latin America will be enormous. If Chavez wins his opponents will claim fraud, if the "No" voters win Chavez will claim it was U.S. interference which caused his defeat. This mirrors the climate in the U.S. a very closely divided population. Venezuelans may be headed in a collision towards civil war. The military is divided and that will be the real battle, without the military Chavez will not be able to execute his plans for Castroism in Venezuela.
Does anyone not think that this is a power grab for Chavez to continue Fidel's revolution? He does call Fidel father. Like father like son right? Look at North Korea. Chavez loves that loon from North Korea. Does anyone know or has anyone ever seen Chavez's real father? Of course not, because in Chavez land Fidel is his real father.
And what of those who suggest Chavez will not turn Venezuela into Cuba part 2? What is their agenda? Who would want what has happened in Cuba to be the future of Venezuela? Have any Journalists or those who think they are, noticed how Journalists in Cuba are treated? Most of the worlds Journalists are more outraged about the treatment of some terrorist Muslims who were on a battlefield than their fellow Journalists in Cuba and in Mexico who are killed and tortured almost everyday. Like Rosie says Google it.
Many Chavistas say the referendum is complicated and that many do not understand all the issues, but maybe the truth is this election is no more complicated than the colors each side has adopted.
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url="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aPHNVoBwqoHk&refer=latin_america"]``Chavez
is the latest example of a head of state who believes he's the only
person who can run a Latin American country effectively,'' said David
Scott Palmer, a political science and international relations professor
at Boston University. He is ``moving to consolidate power to run the
country the way he thinks it needs to be run.''
Statistical Tie
Bugles sounded throughout Venezuela starting at 4:30 a.m., calling
residents to vote. By 8 a.m., lines extended out from voting stations
around Caracas. Pollsters predict a turnout between 60 percent and 85
percent.
``We've been watching the development of the process, and it's been
peaceful,'' Energy and Oil Minister Rafael Ramirez said after casting
his vote in Caracas, in comments broadcast by state television channel
Venezolana de Television.
Some pollsters including Caracas-based Hinterlaces and Consultores
21 say polls show a statistical tie among those who've decided to vote.
Most of those considering abstention would vote against the measure,
said Luis Christiansen, president of Consultores 21. It's illegal to
publish polls in the week before an election.
``Any growth in participation will be almost exclusively for the `no' vote,'' Christiansen told reporters yesterday in Caracas.
The elections regulator expects to begin announcing the results early this evening after polls close at 3 p.m. New York time.
Sharper Attacks
Demonstrations against the proposal turned violent at times over the
past three months. Police regularly used tear gas and water cannons to
control crowds of protesters. Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans,
both Chavez supporters and opposition groups, flooded the streets of
Caracas as the campaign built to a finale last week.
Chavez stepped up attacks against the U.S., foreign investors and the media in his final speeches before the vote.
He told tens of thousands of supporters at a Nov. 30 rally that he's
prepared to cut off exports of oil to the U.S., Venezuela's biggest
trading partner, should the U.S. government try to stir up violence in
the country after the referendum. He also said he may nationalize
Spanish banks operating in the country to defend the ``dignity'' of
Venezuela, prompting cheers from the crowd.
Chavez made the threats after Spanish King Juan Carlos I told him to ``shut up'' at a summit in Chile earlier this month.
`Oligarchs'
Ravin Azuaje, 58, a full-time activist for a pro-government
community group in a Caracas working class neighborhood, said a new
constitution will end the rule of ``oligarchs'' in Venezuela and put
control of the state and its resources in the hands of the common
people.
``This marks the end of exclusion as we knew it in this country,''
Azuaje said in an interview yesterday. He gave up his business selling
pizzas and sandwiches on the street to work for the group, the
city-supported Che Guevara Revolutionary Community Council.
Economists say the proposed changes to the constitution would curb
private investment and slow growth in Venezuela, South America's
third-biggest economy and its biggest oil exporter. Inflation, already
the highest in the region at 17.2 percent, may accelerate, Jose Guerra,
a former head of research at the central bank, said in an interview.
The most likely impact would be growing shortages of food staples
such as milk, eggs and meat, said Eduardo Gomez Sigala, President of
Conindustria, the biggest Venezuelan lobbying group for the
manufacturing industry.
``If the passage of this referendum is another signal of the
continuation of the current policy mix, then the most likely outcome is
an intensification of the most pressing problems afflicting this
country's economy,'' Gomez Sigala, a former executive of Corimon SA, a
paint maker, said in an interview.
Chavez said last week that if voters approve his plan, he's prepared to stay in power until 2050. [/q]
CARACAS --Backed by a barrage of ads on government airwaves, President Hugo Chávez is betting on victory in a vote Sunday that would give him nearly absolute control of Venezuela and solidify his role as the leader of Latin America's anti-U.S. left in the post-Castro era.
But Chávez's proposal to amend the Venezuelan Constitution -- including the right for him to seek reelection indefinitely -- is losing in some of the latest polls, and the outcome remains in doubt for a president who has not lost a national vote since 1998.
The results of the vote will have repercussions far beyond this country of 27 million people. A Chávez victory would sharpen the bitter and long-running conflict with the United States, which buys about 10 percent of its oil imports from Venezuela.
Chávez himself has made a point of presenting the vote as one more chapter in the battle against ''the empire.'' 'Anyone who votes `No' is voting for George W. Bush,'' Chavez shouted to a sea of supporters Friday. ``Our true enemy is the U.S. empire, and on Sunday, Dec. 2, we're going to give another knockout to Bush.''
Chávez and his supporters say they will accept Sunday's outcome, whatever the results. Opposition leaders have refused to make the same pledge, saying they fear that the president will resort to fraud to win, if necessary.
''The future of Venezuela's democracy depends on the outcome,'' said Omar Barboza, president of the biggest opposition party. ``Chávez wants to establish the Cuban model in Venezuela.''
For his part, Chávez said: 'He who says he supports Chávez but votes `no' is a traitor, a true traitor. He's against me, against the revolution and against the people.''
On Saturday he warned against attempts to stir up violence, and threatened to cut off oil exports to the U.S. if Washington interferes. ''In the case of an aggression by the United States government, we wouldn't send any more oil to that country . . . Forget about our oil,'' he told reporters.
FOES MAY NOT VOTE
Most polls in recent days have shown a majority rejecting the proposed amendments. But Sunday's outcome will depend largely on the turnout, since many Chávez opponents plan to stay home to avoid legitimizing a pro-Chávez result that they say is preordained.
Chávez has taken no chances leading up to Sunday's voting. Ads extolling the benefits of the proposed changes have blanketed government television and radio stations in recent days.
The ads have focused on changes that are particularly popular with voters: reducing the work week from 40 hours to 36; extending the pension system to include maids, street vendors and others in the informal economy; and giving the citizens more say by creating new neighborhood councils.
The ads have downplayed or ignored the more controversial amendments that would abolish presidential term limits, lift some civil rights during declared states of emergency, and make it easier for the government to nationalize private property.
In rural areas, where Chávez supporters have traditionally been the overwhelming majority, the presence of the ''no'' campaign has been minimal.
A daylong tour of the Barlovento region of Miranda state -- where poor, peasant communities predominate -- revealed not a single ''no'' poster but many houses displaying ''yes'' posters.
Some violence erupted during the referendum campaign, with one person killed and several dozen injured in clashes during pro-Chávez and anti-Chávez marches.
Here are some observations from Venezuelan bloggers:
The election day post: the doomsday vote12:43
Back from voting. It was a breeze. But it was also a mystery: my
table had no line whatsoever but all the other tables had at least a
couple of dozen people waiting and more outside as people were allowed
in only as their voting table cleared up some. I was allowed to walk
right in.I did drive around some, visiting about a dozen voting centers,
including two in very chavista areas. No lines anywhere. No way to
judge abstention so far. My voting book had only two signatures when I
voted, I was the third one to sign. This time it had only 10 names per
page (I think). I sort of hung around trying to glance at other pages
and none had more than 2 to 4 lines filled up. Thus there are plenty of
people to vote as obviously more than half the people have not moved
there. And I vote in one of the most anti Chavez district of San
Felipe.
Not just a day in the life...8:30 AM Reports are that voting is light everywhere, pro-Chavez or pro-opposition.
12:00 AM I took spin around Caracas from one end to the other and it
is better than people had told me but it is also a very mixed and
somewhat confusing picture.First I went to my voting center upper middle class and anti-Chavez
and lines were not long but it would have taken me about half an hour
to vote so I decided to postpone it. I then did a spin nearby and all
seemed similar lines maybe 20-50 meters long in definitely pro-Chavez
areas.Then I went towards Petare along the Romulo Gallegos. Near Boleita a
lower middle class area that tends to go slightly pro-Chavez (55-60% in
his favor), there were longer lines maybe 100-200 meters in length.Then came the surprises. I went to Petare, pro-Chavez territory and
saw four schools, three had no lines whatsoever. In fact I almost
missed one because it was empty and was able to park the car and take a
picture in the middle of the road (below). The fourth one, by contrast,
had the longest lien I saw today about three to four hundred meters.Then I went the other extreme towards Caricuao, another pro-Chavez area and there were no lines anywhere.














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at 07:34 on December 2nd, 2007
mpress, good story
at 08:14 on December 2nd, 2007
On 2 December, Venezuelans will decide whether or not to approve a package of constitutional reforms, which include ending the limits on presidential terms.
* Indefinite re-election of president, term increased from 6 to 7 years
* Central Bank's autonomy ended (giving the president control over the central bank)
* Structure of country's administrative districts reorganised (creation of new provinces governed by centrally appointed officials)
* Maximum working day cut from 8 hours to 6
* Voting age lowered from 18 to 16
* Social security benefits extended to workers in informal sector
* Mr Chavez is also proposing to bypass legal controls on the executive during a state of emergency.
* Placing the president in charge of administering the country's international reserves
at 08:26 on December 2nd, 2007
I was in queue for three hours and finally voted at 7am on this sunny sunday. If you are reading this, you are Venezuelan and you haven't voted yet, don't hesitate! it is your right and your duty. Your future starts today.
at 10:13 on December 2nd, 2007
Venezuela, the future is today.
at 14:08 on December 2nd, 2007
mpress, good stuff.
Do you really think Chavez would allow a loss? I personally think he'll do whatever it takes to make the tally come out in his favor.
at 14:23 on December 2nd, 2007
According to Reuters Chavez won Referendum. However, it is still to be confirmed by official sources later tonight.
at 23:05 on December 2nd, 2007
The NO option won both blocks in the referendum!
Chavez's constitutional reform project wasn't approved.
(and I'm soo Happy!)