Preacher turned from Homosexual by Money and Threats

by delzakiya | March 29, 2007 at 02:37 pm

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In February 2004, we were made aware that Paul had become an alcoholic. In April 2004, we confronted Paul with evidence that he had recently been involved in homosexual activity. Paul admitted to these sinful practices and was placed under discipline, agreeing to a process of restoration, which the three of us would oversee. However, Paul has resisted this process and has continued in his sin... <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
(http://www.morningstarministries/pages/special_bulletins/Oct_19.html)

Paul Cain was found to be a practicing homosexual and alcoholic. When he was confronted, he lied (surprise). He was given ample time to repent, but refused until it was made public. His response was to say the leaders lied on him, and that they were out to take his ministry away (Put on Website, now removed). A week or so later, he fessed up to the alcoholism, but has yet to admit to the homosexuality after accusing the others of lying. On his Website, he would only admit to the alcoholism.

Now, a year after this “restoration” process has begun. He is completely restored. According to the following paragraphs of the “restoration” letter, it would seem that the deciding factor on his restoration is his income.

“He is 77 years old and has known only ministry as a source of income. During the restoration process, he has drained most of his assets and needs to be able to work. Though he has been able to pay for much of his care, individuals on the team have paid a large portion of the tab. While Paul Cain Ministries had some money in the bank account, Paul does not. He does not personally own the property in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Kansas City.”

Those who would seek to block legitimate efforts for supervised self-employment need to realize that Paul is protected by law as well as by RTV Ministries to proceed with its agreed-upon process of restoration.

He is released to travel in ministry only in the full-time care of a traveling companion who is married, is more than 40 years old, is a licensed RTV minister or a part of the restoration team, and is responsible to update the team to Paul's progress and needs on a regular basis. (http://www.paulcain.org)

Maybe I missed something, but wasn’t the problem that he was gay? So, who cares if the person he is now with is married or not. Basically, this man is being released back into ministry so he can make money. He is over 77 years old, and it must show that he did not know how to set aside money. He made the choice to go take treatment where his insurance would not cover, which seems idiotic of the team that took him. They basically forced him into financial issues.

The letter goes on to say that he has not property. Why?
The problem with the restoration of Paul Cain is that the people he was accountable to in the beginning and found the sin, he turned on. I do not care who gave him his license. You can get one of those online, so what? The issue is that he ran to people who could not possibly know all that he has done. Where were they when he was sinning? Further, is his age, lack of money and poor health the reason for this speedy restoration? Probably, it would seem that just like hospitals, when the money goes, so does your problem.

No church should allow this man to preach behind his pulpit. Ministry is not meant to be for money. It is to help people. There is plenty of “work at home” options for him to make money. Heck, sell an e-book.

Lastly, the tone of the “restoration letter” seems to be hostile against the people who confronted Paul and his running to some unknown agency. By their own admission, they were not even around twenty years ago, so where do they get the authority to down talk those who actually know Paul Cain.

David Andrade is the founder of Reclaiming the Valley’s International Ministry. They have no Website, say it is based in Pasadena, but gives a Chino Hill address. A 501 (c)(3) status is nothing but a IRS tax distinction, so it had little purpose for being included in the letter. It does not give credibility except where a tax write-off is needed. It would seem that Andrade needs to check his attitude about other ministers who know Paul Cain, and are concerned that he not go to people who do not know him in order to manipulate and lie.

Since Cain has cancer, and has battled one illness after another for the last year, one would wonder when they had time to bring him through restoration. I think they basically gave him some rules and let him go when they took all his money.

I want this man to be restored, but by people who have some credibility in the Body of Christ. It should be by the people that Cain thought so much of that he had them overseeing his ministry. The letter says Cain needed flexibility that they were unable to give. Could it be because he had lied so much before? Why let the guilty call the shots.

Andrade needs to apologize to the people he has verbally attacked in his “restoration” letter. It shows the spirit that is behind it, and it is not Christlike

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william turner (not verified)

at 17:57 on March 20th, 2009

I probably should not say much. I was arround during the restortion of Paul Cain and those that know David Andrade also know that he is no push over. Paul Cain was not allowed to get away with anything.

D Blauw (not verified)

at 01:35 on April 13th, 2009

Any person who sins in this manner needs considerable help in resovling what went wrong! Working through those issues and then going through restoration needs to be done along Biblical lines and totally in line with what it has to say! No one should be restored because they have no money! Living from Father's hand to ours is one of the scariest things I have ever experienced but He is faith and I am totally His so He is responsible to care for me! When a leader in the body of Christ sins and is removed from ministry for healing and restoration we need to be assured those undertaking this process are willing to do things God's way and not man's and be accountable and trustworthy so when and if the person is restored to ministry the process was truly completed and the person is in total surrender to God and pursuing Him with all that is within them and not a ministry! He only wants us to love Him with all that is us and love our neighbor as ourself. Any ministry we may have will come out of that intimate relationship with Him. That is the example of His Son Jesus! That was Jesus's prayer in John 14 for all of us that we would be one with Father as He was when He walked this earth! We were created for fellowship with God and to minister to Him first and others second. It has to be that way! It has to or we are upside down in our walk with Him. If Jesus is our example to follow then getting away with Father is the priority of our life not doing but being!

I pray those involved in this process with Paul Cain are truly using the Biblical Standard and not one of their own making! It will do no one any good if that is not the case especially Paul Cain! It will only set him up for future problems because this is now a weak spot in his life! Only God can truly heal a fallen heart and it must be done under the direction of Holy Spirit!

Oh! Father that what I have read today is not true, but if it is I pray you will speak directly and clearly to those who have been involved in the process with this man! No more taking sin lightly and calling it something it is not. It not just a mistake! It is not just a slip! It is not just a character flaw. It is sin and must be dealt with as such! Give us all the grace to extend for no one deserves forgiveness but you give it anyway to the truly repentant heart that comes to You in humility and seeks Your face and turns from their wicked way! II Chronicles 7:14 says you will heal even our land!

I am sickened to think the church fathers of this day might not be taking sin seriously! It is far to easy to make excuses in our own lives for our sin but when we do for a brother or sister who is found to be walking in sin and living a second private lifestyle contrary to the Word and profess to be helping them we are sinning against them as well as You Father! Help us in this hour and this day to be so what is the word I am looking for? We are weak and refuse to remove the beam from our own eye as we attempt to remove the splinter from our brother or sister's eye! Father we need to live II Chronicles 7:14 as individuals so it can spread and You hear from heaven and heal our land! Sin can prevent You from being able to hear our voice. You had to turn Your back on Your Son when He took on my sin as he hung on that cross so long ago. What makes any of think You can look upon us with our gross sins now? Forgive us Father for being so weak as far as sin in our is concerned!

pastor ryan cristler (not verified)

at 10:09 on August 13th, 2009

Through the years I have been aquainted and attended many RTV functions. They have always been first class. The senior pastors in our church are ordained through RTV and also have always maintained the integrity of the leaders and their global work and influence.

ANYWAY, here is my point.

If it is true that those that worked with Paul Cain prior to his publc disclosure had full knowledge for some 7 years what was going on and were unable to bring delieverance to a man so desperately in need.

HOW IS IT? that indiviaduals like Pastor David Andrade continue to be attacked for getting the job done??? I think something is seriously wrong with your logic.

Ryan