Pacquiao vs. De La Hoya Talks Stall: Golden Boy CEO says 75% Sure Fight will Happen

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by Joseph Pimentel/AJPress LOS ANGELES – Three key issues are stalling the proposed Manny Pacquiao vs. Oscar De La Hoya mega match up, according to Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaeffer.

Schaeffer said he met with Top Rank President Bob Arum, Pacquiao’s promoter, for two hours Wednesday but both sides could not come up with a consensus agreement about the deals of the fight which would be slated for December 6 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.  

The three issues stalling the deal are the size of the boxing gloves, De La Hoya’s weight limit, and the financial split.

“Oscar hasn’t made 147 pounds in almost ten years,” said Schaeffer to the Asian Journal during the Shane Mosley vs. Ricardo Mayorga press conference. “And we know from experience that a boxer could lose the match on the scales. The size of the gloves is also an issue. Oscar is used to wearing 10 ounce gloves while Manny usually wears 8 ounce gloves in his fights.”

“[And] the financial split is what it is,” he said. “Every time I negotiate a De La Hoya fight it’s the same thing. Suddenly the opponent feels they should make Oscar [big] money and I feel certain people have a market value.”

He declined to discuss the specifics of the proposed fight purse and other financial aspects, adding, “we guarantee a record purse for Manny Pacquiao, multiple times more than he has ever made so far. We think it’s a fair deal.”

Since winning his match against Steve Forbes in May, the Golden Boy De La Hoya has been looking for a grand finale fight before he rides off to the retirement sunset. A proposed re-match with Floyd Mayweather Jr. was rebuffed when Mayweather abruptly retired. Mexican counterpart Antonio Margarito lies waiting in the wings but after impressively thrashing Puerto Rican champion Miguel Cotto to a bloody pulp, De La Hoya would be best served to stay away from him.

Meanwhile, Pacquiao has also been looking for an opponent since his dominating performance against Mexican American David Diaz. That night, Pacquiao became the first Asian to capture four world titles in four different weight classes. The 29-year-old WBC Lightweight Champion’s first opponent choice was British contender Ricky Hatton at 140 pounds, but Hatton is already slated to fight New York champion Paulie Malignaggi in November.

Pacquiao’s other possible fights: a rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez would be out the door, Venezuelan knockout artist Edwin Valero is having a hard time getting medical clearance in Nevada and Humberto Soto lost his most recent match albeit by a technicality.

At first, a possible Pacquiao vs. De La Hoya bout was a only a pipe dream of fans and boxing enthusiasts wondering “what if” match ups but the idea began to pick up steam when Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach said Pacquiao could fight at 147 pounds, the welterweight class. In his last two matches, Pacquiao has weighed in the night of the fight at 146 and 147 pounds, respectively.

Schaeffer said that he’s confident that a Pacquiao vs. De La Hoya deal could be done.

“We have to do a lot of work on those three issues: the size of gloves, the weight - either at 149 or 150 pounds and financial split,” said Schaeffer. “I’ll say I’m cautiously optimistic. If I were to use percentages, I would say there’s a 75 percent chance a deal will be done in the next few weeks. I’ll be sitting down with Oscar next week. Arum will discuss this with Manny [when he gets back from the Olympics] and I’m sure in a few weeks everybody will know the outcome.”

(www.asianjournal.com)

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danesller0127

When you think of famous Filipinos and sports, few can associate those two things together. Even an avid sports fan and writer will have trouble coming up with Filipinos in sports.

Enter Manny Pacquiao, a man who can unite a divided country with every punch and stride.

I first realized that Manny could become the boxer that he is now during the first fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, which resulted in a somewhat controversial draw.

Few people knew how special Manny was prior to that match, although he had fought and beaten another Mexican in Barrera via a TKO.

It was the match with Marquez that brought not only this Filipino but the whole Philippines buzzing with excitement. At that moment, whatever was going on in my life, I felt that everything was alright.

I didn't expect others to understand how we felt at that moment, because I knew that this type of greatness comes once in a lifetime and like myself, he was Filipino.

(Neil Melms/bleacherreport.com)

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Peter B

I was looking forward to see this fight , but when I hear that Oscar want to fight at 149 to 150 lbs and prefer to use 10 ounces gloves, that to me is a reason that he is getting scared of Manny, I mean common, Manny is already jumping 2 division to make it happen, it sounds like Oscar want everything in his advantage. If this fight does not happen in 147 lbs with 8 ounces gloves, then you can shoved this fight into Golden Boy behind.

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Peter B

I was looking forward to see this fight , but when I hear that Oscar want to fight at 149 to 150 lbs and prefer to use 10 ounces gloves, that to me is a reason that he is getting scared of Manny, I mean common, Manny is already jumping 2 division to make it happen, it sounds like Oscar want everything in his advantage. If this fight does not happen in 147 lbs with 8 ounces gloves, then you can shoved this fight into Golden Boy behind.

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danesller0127

Hi there Peter B, Yeah! i think you're right...but this is the latest news about the negotations for a Dec.6 fight; 

Promoter Bob Arum on Wednesday evening confirmed a report that negotiations for a Dec. 6 fight between Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao have hit a dead end.

Money is at the root.

Richard Schaefer, CEO of De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, said Tuesday that De La Hoya had agreed to wear eight-ounce gloves instead of 10 and to fight at the 147-pound welterweight limit for the first time since March 2001.

De La Hoya has fought at as high as 160 pounds and most recently fought at 150 in May.

Pacquiao, of the Philippines, has not fought at higher than the 135-pound lightweight limit. But De La Hoya's concessions were not enough to seal the deal because he wanted a 70-30 percent split of the revenue. Pacquiao, promoted by Arum, would not accept anything less than 40 percent.

"Oscar refused to move," Arum said via telephone from New York City. "Oscar's deal was that it was 70-30 or no deal."

Arum is resigned to the notion he will have to look for another opponent for Pacquiao, 29. "Can't do everything," Arum said. "If there's no negotiations, there's no negotiations. I can't do anything about it."

De La Hoya, 35, is in search of his farewell fight.


source: Robert Morales/dailynews.com

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Peter B

Thanks for the update Danesller0127, as far as the split on the revenue, I think Oscar should just give in to 60 -40 split. I mean Oscar is booked at Dec 6 fight at MGM and has not hammered a deal to fight anyone, with Mayweather retired and Cotto recent defeat to Margarito, Trinidad cant make the weight, so who can really give him a match? Margarito maybe, but Oscar statement in the past that he don't want to fight another Mexican so who shall he fight.

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danesller0127

WORLD Boxing Council president Don Jose Sulaiman has praised Filipino ring idol Manny Pacquiao for deciding not to go through with a planned showdown with “The Golden Boy” Oscar de la Hoya in Las Vegas on Dec. 6.

In an overseas telephone conversation with www.insidesports.ph, Viva Sports and Standard Today from his home in Mexico City, Sulaiman said: “I congratulate Manny Pacquiao because he must have the respect of the public and the pride and the honor of being the lightweight champion of the world and the best pound for pound. He has to keep that. It is more valuable than money.”

Sulaiman said it was not right for Pacquiao, who is the best boxer today, “to be used for money. I am happy for his own good because he still has a long career and he had no reason to give up so much for the sake of someone retiring and making a lot of money.”

Sulaiman, who was against the Pacquiao-De la Hoya fight from the moment it was talked about, said this brings respect for boxing. The fight would have been a very disrespectful action to the people of boxing, citing the weight, height and reach advantages of De la Hoya in what many termed a mismatch because of these factors.

Sulaiman said should Top Rank promoter Bob Arum arrange a fight between Pacquiao and Humberto Soto “it would be a helluva fight because Soto is a very good fighter.”

He said should Pacquiao then decide to fight Britain’s Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton at 140 pounds next year “that would be an acceptable fight” pointing out that the weight, height and reach of Hatton were all “within acceptance.”

source: Ronnie Nathanielsz/manilastandardtoday.com

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