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BelaynehKassaWubie | June 20, 2010 at 08:33 pm
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I listen one appreciating the other as logical thinker. But do human beings think logically? What do we mean by logic or logical thinking? In my understanding, logic is something the result of which can be validated by evidence or can be predetermined. For example, two oranges plus two oranges equal to four oranges. So computers are logical thinkers but humans.
Something is logical to its creator. Man cannot be logical to man as man is not the creator of man. But man may be logical to God, his creator, as God can know what peoples are thinking in advance and what the result could be. So, man cannot be logical to man as we don’t exactly know what a man is thinking about and what the result of the man’s thinking could be.
It is right that computers think logically as programmed and man can prove that what the result could be. This is because computers are designed and invented by man, its creator, and the creator knows in advance what the result from processing the computer in a certain program could be. So, we can generally conclude that human beings do not think logically while computers think logically. b
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at 20:53 on June 20th, 2010
"So, we can generally conclude that human beings do not think logically while computers think logically."What? No we can't. Whether or not that is a correct conclusion it is based on some exceptionally sloppy premises.
at 22:03 on June 20th, 2010
The premise your argument stems from is illogical.If a man can be logical to his creator only,then man can be illogical to creator only.
Logic broadly means:1)the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference;2) a particular method of reasoning or argumentation;and,3)reason or sound judgement.
Even before computers were invented and man in the very early stage of social development learnt counting,two and two were four,not less not more.Action of a man is either governed by logic or sentiments.Those whose actions are governed by logic are called rational,and those whose actions are government by sentiments are called sentimental.In between are crooks aka politicians,who are governed by selfishness.And IMO selfishness falls in the category of wickedness,the governing philosphy of neo-cons.
Logical thinking,arguments,approach ect.all are in relation of man to man.Once you bring in the God,logic ceases to have any meaning,let alone impact.Render unto God,what is God's;not Ceaser's.
at 23:00 on June 20th, 2010
Thank you Vand and t k Kidwai! Actually this is an issue and my conclusion may be misleading It is clear, however, that computers think logically and the result known in advance whatever complex the process or the data fed may be. Example, scientific computation.
But one cannot logically reduce what the man is thinking and what the result will be. Even it is difficult for the thinker himself know that his thinking is logical as the movement of the thinking changes at less than nano sconds. Human mind is highly complex and delicate and is difficult to assume that human mind thinks logically.One can not predetermine what one thinks using reduction or sensitivity analysis.
If man was able to know what somebody is thinking and what the result of the thinking will be, man could manuevre man and that is bad. So, man's illogical thinking is good for man himself.
at 13:59 on June 21st, 2010
Something is logical to its creator. Man cannot be logical to man as man is not the creator of man.
I disagree, every human being was created by man more accurately by a man and a woman. Therefore, by your premise, a parent can be logical where a child cannot, at least until the child has children of their own.
Parents, by raising their children, are effectively programing their children. This, combined with the expression of the parent's DNA creates an ability within the parents to logically predict the actions of their children.
Being a father, I can say there is truth to my statements. However, without having every scrap of information or data niether a parent nor a super computer can acuratly predict anything.
at 22:00 on June 21st, 2010
Hi Utilaeastwind, Thank you for your comment!
If you are not religious, your comment is logical. But as a religious, man does not create man; man and woman are simply operators of what is created by God just as a computer operator is simply operating by what is invented (the computer). I think so! Creator of man is only God
at 11:30 on June 22nd, 2010
If you are not religious, your comment is logical
By that token, computers cannot be logical either as they are created by man. Man, by your premise creates nothing, God is the Creator.
I do not think that you can apply logic to religion. Religion defies logic and logical thinking, without proper knowledge, is pointless.
at 16:56 on June 27th, 2010
Brains do what computers do. They are designed to think & therein lies our collective problem. We think too much, we think incorrectly & we think everything that flits through our heads is VERY important. The trouble is not in HOW we think--how we live our lives is WHAT we think that causes us to live as we do, good results or bad.
at 15:15 on July 6th, 2010
I totally agree with the one who said parents program their children. As a parent too, i think and i now know for a fact that, you can't think beyond what you know and this is what i mean- the programing you recieve from childhood directly or indirectly will govern how you think and that's why good and evil are subjective terms- not universal.