Audio From the Editor's News Room Call March 12th 2007

 here is the text of the chat:

 [9:00:35 PM] Morbus Iff added michaelemeyers to this chat
 [9:00:40 PM] Justin Silles says: hola
 [9:00:55 PM] michaelemeyers says: hi everyone - thanks for joining us!
 [9:01:02 PM] Morbus Iff says: rowr
 [9:01:07 PM] michaelemeyers says: if and only iff?
 [9:01:07 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Hello Michael
 [9:01:19 PM] Morbus Iff says: michael: ayup, amongst others.
 [9:01:35 PM] Actual News Guy says: https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=529912&hash=132c196184438a3cc814
 [9:03:28 PM] Morbus Iff says: rowr
 [9:03:32 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Greetings All. Waiting on new laptop and headset. You will hear my fabulous voice another day.
 [9:03:32 PM] Michael Riggs says: Hi Morbus
 [9:03:50 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Yes. Look up two lines
 [9:04:15 PM] michaelemeyers says: Morbus is a drupal rockstar, an oreilly author (mac os x hacks, spidering hacks) and a senior dev at np
 [9:04:25 PM] Michael Riggs says: Cool\
 [9:04:30 PM] Morbus Iff waves cheerfully.
 [9:04:44 PM] Actual News Guy added morrimostow to this chat
 [9:04:53 PM] michaelemeyers says: http://www.nowpublic.com/newsroom/new_flagging_management_system_2
 [9:05:12 PM] michaelemeyers says: http://www.nowpublic.com/newsroom/new_flagging_management_system_2
 [9:05:16 PM] michaelemeyers says: http://intra2.nowpublic.com/files/NP_News%20Values2.jpg
 [9:05:27 PM] michaelemeyers says: http://intra2.nowpublic.com/files/NP_StoryDetail_070311.jpg
 [9:05:56 PM] Justin Silles says: password issues on last two links?
 [9:06:08 PM] Morbus Iff says: i'm on it.
 [9:06:11 PM] michaelemeyers says: doh
 [9:06:11 PM] Morbus Iff says: will save locally.
 [9:06:14 PM] michaelemeyers says: i sent the wrong links out
 [9:07:10 PM] Actual News Guy says: Here is the page with the new graphics:

 http://www.nowpublic.com/newsroom/new_flagging_management_system_2
 [9:07:18 PM] Actual News Guy says: Click on the two top links
 [9:07:47 PM] Actual News Guy says: If you can't hear this please let me know.
 [9:08:00 PM] Actual News Guy says: Michael Meyers is just describing our new flagging system
 [9:08:09 PM] Matt E says: what page are we looking at?
 [9:08:13 PM] Matt E says: rushing it
 [9:08:17 PM] Actual News Guy says: Can all hear him?
 [9:08:21 PM] Matt E says: y
 [9:08:22 PM] Justin Silles says: yes
 [9:08:23 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I can hear but the soind does occasionally drop.
 [9:08:27 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: yes
 [9:08:44 PM] victoria.revay says: yes drops
 [9:08:46 PM] Actual News Guy says: Is Michael going to fast?
 [9:08:57 PM] Matt E says: yes
 [9:10:07 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I just lost all sound.
 [9:10:26 PM] Actual News Guy added asmk200 to this chat
 [9:11:17 PM] michaelemeyers says: is sound back?
 [9:11:20 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Nope
 [9:11:37 PM] michaelemeyers says: maybe try hanging up and redialing back into the call?
 [9:13:06 PM] Michael Riggs says: Mine dropped and came back after a while
 [9:13:18 PM] michaelemeyers says: http://www.nowpublic.com/newsroom/new_flagging_management_system_2
 [9:13:42 PM] Actual News Guy says: Good Stuff
 ----------

 * Authenticated users: 1 Good Stuff point
 * News Wranglers: 5 Good Stuff points
 * Editors: 10 Good Stuff points
 * Super-editors: 20 Good Stuff points

 * Threshold to become: 10 Good Stuff points
 [9:14:05 PM] Michael Riggs says: What is a supereditor?
 [9:14:13 PM] Michael Riggs says: ok
 [9:14:22 PM] Matt E says: bow
 [9:14:22 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: it's an editor who changes in phone booths.
 [9:14:32 PM] Actual News Guy Bowing
 [9:14:33 PM] Michael Riggs says: kowtow, never mind bow
 [9:14:39 PM] Actual News Guy says: A story becomes Good Stuff when:

 1 super-editor flags it
 OR 1 editor flags it
 OR 2 News Wranglers flag it
 OR 10 authenticated users flag it
 OR 1 News Wrangler and 5 authenticated users flag it
 OR ... etc. etc. etc. ...

 All users can revoke their Good Stuff flag, but this
 DOES NOT remove their comments, only their score value.
 [9:14:43 PM] Matt E says: undies on the outside
 [9:14:46 PM] victoria.revay says: you guys are funny
 [9:15:39 PM] Justin Silles says: we might have a little audio congesstion...
 [9:15:43 PM] Michael Riggs says: There is a switch on your headset
 [9:16:05 PM] michaelemeyers says: ooops - i just tested that feature - can you add me back :)
 [9:16:06 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I am still without sound.
 [9:16:15 PM] michaelemeyers says: robert i'm recording this
 [9:16:21 PM] michaelemeyers says: yes - add me back!
 [9:16:40 PM] michaelemeyers says: i'm stuck in peragtory
 [9:16:45 PM] Justin Silles says: ha
 [9:16:51 PM] michaelemeyers says: you need to promote me to talk
 [9:16:56 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Mark, can you try and add me again.
 [9:17:08 PM] Michael Riggs says: I can hear you
 [9:17:24 PM] Actual News Guy says: Let me know if you want to talk
 [9:17:43 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I woult like to hear.
 [9:17:46 PM] Michael Riggs says: That is a good idea
 [9:17:57 PM] Actual News Guy says: Anybody who cannot hear?
 [9:18:03 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Me
 [9:18:10 PM] Matt E says: hearing
 [9:18:19 PM] Actual News Guy says: Robert, you may have to restart your computer and rejoin
 [9:18:30 PM] Michael Riggs says: try a skype test call.
 [9:18:49 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Okay. I shut everything down once.

 [9:19:54 PM] Actual News Guy says: A reminder - we are here:

 http://www.nowpublic.com/newsroom/new_flagging_management_system_2
 [9:21:20 PM] Justin Silles says: looks clean
 [9:21:27 PM] Matt E says: editors note - clarify
 [9:25:44 PM] Michael Riggs says: Can somebody send Ahmad the chat link
 [9:26:28 PM] Michael Riggs says: We need some criteria for clever news analyses
 [9:26:33 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I'm back and I can hear.
 [9:26:54 PM] Justin Silles says: yes
 [9:27:32 PM] michaelemeyers says: 1) multiple sources / qoutes (not just one)
 [9:27:40 PM] michaelemeyers says: 2) great news analysis
 [9:29:00 PM] Michael Riggs says: great
 [9:29:15 PM] Matt E says: editors note..
 [9:29:20 PM] Justin Silles says: great to hear about the tracking!
 [9:29:36 PM] Justin Silles says: ew
 [9:29:44 PM] victoria.revay says: ouch
 [9:29:46 PM] victoria.revay says: ..
 [9:29:57 PM] michaelemeyers says: can't hear ya
 [9:30:00 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: So much for my 400 watt surrounds
 [9:30:00 PM] michaelemeyers says: can you type your ? please
 [9:30:08 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: how darth vader was that?!
 [9:30:14 PM] Justin Silles says: lol
 [9:30:26 PM] Matt E says: the editors note - at the top of the sample
 [9:30:43 PM] Matt E says: ed nees to be identified
 [9:30:55 PM] Matt E says: yep
 [9:30:59 PM] Matt E says: not comment
 [9:31:46 PM] Matt E says: like in Walyce example
 [9:32:09 PM] Actual News Guy added walyce.almeida to this chat
 [9:32:53 PM] Justin Silles says: nice!
 [9:33:06 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: users can then determine their own level of involvement.
 [9:33:14 PM] Michael Riggs says: Nice 2x
 [9:33:48 PM] Actual News Guy says: * Authenticated users: 1 Good Stuff point
 * News Wranglers: 5 Good Stuff points
 * Editors: 10 Good Stuff points
 * Super-editors: 20 Good Stuff points

 * Threshold to become: 10 Good Stuff points

 A story becomes Good Stuff when:

 1 super-editor flags it
 OR 1 editor flags it
 OR 2 News Wranglers flag it
 OR 10 authenticated users flag it
 OR 1 News Wrangler and 5 authenticated users flag it
 OR ... etc. etc. etc. ...
 [9:34:30 PM] Michael Riggs says: I would not make it overt, simply because it will be spammed.
 [9:34:36 PM] Justin Silles says: points live on site: might turn into a popularity contest...good idea to hide it
 [9:34:37 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: i agree.
 [9:34:46 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: aminewsornot.com?
 [9:34:58 PM] michaelemeyers says: [9:31:34 PM] ahmad_sherif says: Dear michael, could you tell Mark, I don' have access to the chatting feature with him?
 [9:35:07 PM] michaelemeyers says: Mark - can you add him back in please - i can't for some reason - tnx
 [9:36:02 PM] Michael Riggs says: Exactly.
 [9:36:15 PM] victoria.revay says: interesting..
 [9:36:21 PM] michaelemeyers says: i tend to agree w/ that
 [9:36:27 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: i agree.
 [9:36:37 PM] michaelemeyers says: the voodoo factor?
 [9:36:40 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Sounds Good
 [9:36:46 PM] Justin Silles says: voodoo economics
 [9:36:59 PM] Michael Riggs says: Robert, can you hear yet?
 [9:37:05 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Yes
 [9:38:32 PM] Justin Silles says: totally
 [9:40:04 PM] Justin Silles says: so far? No...jordan is hitting it! These featueres improve the social networking aspect
 [9:41:04 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: you're right... and that's our job: by bonsaiing the nature of the posts, we can steer the dialogue on the site towards content...
 [9:41:19 PM] Michael Riggs says: Intelligent social networking
 [9:42:07 PM] Actual News Guy says: Meyers you are breaking up badly...
 [9:42:21 PM] Actual News Guy says: Could you close some apps on your computer...
 [9:42:32 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Sounds like a slow connection or slow PC
 [9:42:47 PM] victoria.revay says: ur breaking up
 [9:43:31 PM] Michael Riggs says: Nothing
 [9:43:42 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: re: michael's comment: it also reinforces the fact that our site is watched over by real humans, and not just 'bots crunching numbers.
 [9:44:56 PM] Justin Silles says: little choppy
 [9:45:32 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: (mark: ahmad just notified me; sez he can't get a chat w/you)
 [9:46:05 PM] michaelemeyers says: yes - tried to add ahmad but couldn't - maybe mark has to do it
 [9:48:25 PM] Michael Riggs says: less choppy
 [9:49:09 PM] Actual News Guy says: Jordan, can you be the bridge between us and Ahmad, because I cannot add him, nor have a side chat with him.
 [9:49:54 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: yup.
 [9:50:10 PM] Actual News Guy says: Matte - do you want to take us through your Mission Statement
 [9:50:21 PM] michaelemeyers says: yeah - i'm dying to shut up and listen :)
 [9:50:22 PM] Justin Silles says: bring in the Aussie
 [9:50:47 PM] Justin Silles says: awesome!
 [9:50:50 PM] victoria.revay says: yes
 [9:50:51 PM] Michael Riggs says: yes.
 [9:50:57 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: yes
 [9:51:00 PM] Justin Silles says: slacker
 [9:51:26 PM] Matt E says: . To encourage community participation in gathering and presenting original news, from what they have witnessed, Commentary or critique of current news issues, Commentary or critique or opinion on a news snip or New information on existing news stories.
 [9:52:03 PM] michaelemeyers says: if this is 'the goal' i like
 [9:52:06 PM] Justin Silles says: looks good!
 [9:52:09 PM] Michael Riggs says: I like it.
 [9:52:10 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: i agree. not everything posted online is actual news...
 [9:52:24 PM] michaelemeyers says: but 'what is news' is like, 'what is art'
 [9:52:32 PM] Matt E says: big word for savage!
 [9:52:38 PM] Justin Silles says: vosiferous?
 [9:52:49 PM] victoria.revay says: what is love?
 [9:52:52 PM] victoria.revay says: it's the same
 [9:53:00 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: ... baybee don't hurrrt me... .no more!
 [9:53:04 PM] victoria.revay says: lol
 [9:53:05 PM] michaelemeyers says: love == nowpublic (for me)
 [9:54:05 PM] Michael Riggs says: That's a pretty good definition, if you ask me.
 [9:54:24 PM] michaelemeyers says: are we saying, "this is the ideal contribution"?
 [9:54:26 PM] victoria.revay says: who defines the newsworthyness
 [9:54:27 PM] victoria.revay says: ?
 [9:54:28 PM] Justin Silles says: I think you hit the nail on the head...from last skycast to the newsroom conversations. It's exactly what I think we needed(no need to mic me)
 [9:55:50 PM] Matt E says: next bit
 [9:55:50 PM] Justin Silles says: welcome to the club!
 [9:55:59 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I agree with Matt.
 [9:56:05 PM] Matt E says: there is more
 [9:56:16 PM] Michael Riggs says: send away
 [9:56:18 PM] Matt E says: . To cover events that are ignored or poorly covered by mainstream media.
 [9:56:26 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Excellent!
 [9:56:28 PM] Justin Silles says: oooo I LOVE THAT
 [9:57:07 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I think if we focus a bit on the obscure or things traditional media ignore it will increase readership.
 [9:57:16 PM] Justin Silles says: agreed
 [9:57:20 PM] victoria.revay says: yes
 [9:57:22 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: agreed
 [9:57:23 PM] michaelemeyers says: i'd love to see posts from 3rd world countries
 [9:57:29 PM] Justin Silles says: yes!
 [9:57:35 PM] victoria.revay says: it's often those events that get the most views
 [9:57:45 PM] Michael Riggs says: Yep. Many stories about Africa and the Middle east are poorly covered, to say the least'
 [9:57:51 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: for sure. africa in general gets ignored by MSM unless it involves AIDS or civil war.
 [9:58:02 PM] victoria.revay says: but we need local people to do this
 [9:58:10 PM] Michael Riggs says: They can't, often
 [9:58:13 PM] Matt E says: parish pump stuff
 [9:58:13 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Also, to drive traffic locally it is a good idea to... I was just saying that.
 [9:58:29 PM] victoria.revay says: we have to find them
 [9:58:34 PM] victoria.revay says: and encourage them
 [9:58:41 PM] Justin Silles says: totally
 [9:58:48 PM] victoria.revay says: what?
 [9:58:48 PM] Justin Silles says: ditto
 [9:58:51 PM] Matt E says: 100%
 [9:58:52 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: hell, yeah
 [9:58:55 PM] victoria.revay says: no Anna Nicole Smith?
 [9:58:57 PM] Matt E says: EVER
 [9:59:02 PM] victoria.revay says: I'm upset..
 [9:59:05 PM] Matt E says: lol
 [9:59:12 PM] Michael Riggs says: We can do that, but there will still be significant access difficulties.
 [9:59:53 PM] victoria.revay says: yes me too
 [10:00:31 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Can I ask at this time if there was there ever a "Sports" category on the front page or if it was intentionally removed? That is an important area at a local area.
 [10:00:48 PM] michaelemeyers says: broadband needed for np!
 [10:00:57 PM] Matt E says: yes
 [10:00:58 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I meant local level.
 [10:01:05 PM] Actual News Guy says: . To cover events that are ignored or poorly covered by mainstream media.
 [10:01:18 PM] Matt E says: . To provide an electronic publishing platform for audio, video photographic and written word stories for independent media outlets and the general public.
 [10:01:41 PM] michaelemeyers says: it sounds much better when he reads it :)
 [10:01:46 PM] Justin Silles says: haha
 [10:01:49 PM] michaelemeyers says: Matt
 [10:02:17 PM] michaelemeyers says: i.e. shozu integration, etc.
 [10:02:20 PM] michaelemeyers says: more robust capabilities
 [10:02:25 PM] Matt E says: . To facilitate the networking and coordination for the coverage of local events as well as gather information about events to cover.
 [10:02:53 PM] victoria.revay says: asignement editor
 [10:02:57 PM] victoria.revay says: assignment
 [10:03:00 PM] victoria.revay says: ?
 [10:03:08 PM] Michael Riggs says: Agree with victoria!
 [10:03:09 PM] Justin Silles says: (no need to mic) "gather information about events to cover." brilliant addition.
 [10:03:24 PM] Michael Riggs says: no need to mic me either
 [10:03:36 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I too agree w/ Victoria
 [10:04:01 PM] Matt E says: . To provide a process of providing reader feedback to contributors
 [10:04:22 PM] jordan matthew yerman added ahmad_sherif to this chat
 [10:04:22 PM] Justin Silles says: yip
 [10:04:24 PM] michaelemeyers says: did you post this to the news room in it's entirety?
 [10:04:27 PM] Matt E says: . To offer support in the areas of development of news gathering writing and editing skills.'
 [10:04:59 PM] victoria.revay says: would editors wranglers do this?
 [10:05:16 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Marks news tips are handy
 [10:05:18 PM] Michael Riggs says: I strongly agree with that Matt.
 [10:05:21 PM] Justin Silles says: good idea Matt...less offense to constructive crit.
 [10:05:27 PM] ahmad_sherif says: test. Can you guys read me?
 [10:05:31 PM] Justin Silles says: (yes)
 [10:05:33 PM] michaelemeyers says: hi ahmad
 [10:05:32 PM] victoria.revay says: ok
 [10:05:34 PM] Actual News Guy says: Yes we can Ahmad
 [10:05:34 PM] ahmad_sherif says: thx
 [10:05:35 PM] Michael Riggs says: yes
 [10:05:55 PM] michaelemeyers says: Matt can you post all this to the NR please
 [10:06:11 PM] michaelemeyers says: and link to the indy media and other examples if you can
 [10:06:26 PM] michaelemeyers says: *awesome* yes
 [10:06:28 PM] Matt E says: on the newsroom already
 [10:06:30 PM] Justin Silles says: case of fosters
 [10:06:36 PM] Matt E says: lol
 [10:06:44 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: fosters is shite! it's all about swan.
 [10:06:45 PM] Matt E says: Hann Light
 [10:06:48 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: or icy VB
 [10:06:53 PM] Matt E says: slimje
 [10:06:55 PM] victoria.revay says: what arewe talking about?
 [10:06:58 PM] victoria.revay says: fosters?
 [10:07:01 PM] victoria.revay says: beer?
 [10:07:01 PM] Matt E says: beer
 [10:07:07 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: ... shots of bundie!
 [10:07:10 PM] victoria.revay says: got it

 [10:07:11 PM] Actual News Guy says: (beer)
 [10:07:47 PM] Matt E says: needs to be publically seen
 [10:07:53 PM] Morri Mostow says: I'm here and listening!
 [10:08:10 PM] Justin Silles says: she's online...see ^
 [10:08:33 PM] michaelemeyers says: (beer)(beer)(beer)(beer)(beer)(beer)matt gets a six pack
 [10:08:41 PM] victoria.revay says: ur beer obsessed
 [10:08:53 PM] Matt E says: wish i had one
 [10:08:56 PM] michaelemeyers says: i'm having a brooklyn lager myself
 [10:09:02 PM] Matt E says: 6 pack ;)
 [10:09:07 PM] Matt E says: yes
 [10:09:26 PM] victoria.revay says: we can hear you..
 [10:09:34 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: my local liquor store started carrying coopers sparkling ale...
 [10:10:26 PM] Matt E says: never too local
 [10:10:26 PM] Actual News Guy says: Hyper-local
 [10:10:34 PM] ahmad_sherif says: I agree, very local
 [10:10:39 PM] michaelemeyers says: if you build an audience it is
 [10:10:49 PM] Matt E says: I'm going to do one on the school fete
 [10:10:58 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: would there be a way for users to set site preferences by region? that way they wouldn't be reading about other people's cats in other people's trees.
 [10:10:58 PM] victoria.revay says: agree with meyers
 [10:11:09 PM] michaelemeyers says: nowpublic.com/local
 [10:11:23 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: ah!
 [10:11:39 PM] michaelemeyers says: should give you news in your area
 [10:11:52 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: There is a "Local" link on the site IP driven so only the locals see it.
 [10:12:05 PM] Michael Riggs says: Agee with Meyers. nowpublic.com/local is a good idea. no mic necessary
 [10:12:11 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: yes ... what Michael said
 [10:12:25 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: cool; i generally interact with the site as an editor, esp. with tech, so i haven't explored the local-local stuff yet.
 [10:13:17 PM] victoria.revay says: would it get lost
 [10:13:18 PM] victoria.revay says: ?
 [10:13:58 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: great point!
 [10:14:02 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: yeah, exactly!
 [10:14:44 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: good point about tags.
 [10:14:49 PM] victoria.revay says: yeh
 [10:14:51 PM] victoria.revay says: tags are important
 [10:14:56 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: yes
 [10:15:28 PM] ahmad_sherif says: nowpublic/tag/local/harlem
 [10:15:54 PM] Justin Silles says: send them to theonion.com
 [10:16:04 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: not sure there is room for that here
 [10:17:38 PM] Matt E says: comment on current events
 [10:18:17 PM] Actual News Guy says: Matt - will come to you next
 [10:18:54 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: the tech section gets inundated by "purely commercial posts" and by random techie blog bits.
 [10:19:19 PM] Actual News Guy says: Robert - do you have a comment now?
 [10:19:39 PM] victoria.revay says: jordan--lets address that
 [10:19:48 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I am still wondering about my comment on the sports thing.
 [10:19:52 PM] ahmad_sherif says: Flagging by other users --not Editors-- should be motivated (justified) with a one line note (no hit and run).
 [10:20:12 PM] michaelemeyers says: all flags shold be justified
 [10:20:52 PM] Matt E says: yessssss
 [10:20:57 PM] michaelemeyers says: i like that
 [10:21:01 PM] Matt E says: yessssss
 [10:21:09 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: yeah.
 [10:21:14 PM] Actual News Guy says: Matt on Current Events
 Robert on Sports
 Jordan on Tech crap
 Ahmad on use of flagging by other members

 This is my list.
 [10:21:20 PM] Justin Silles says: this reminds me of the conversation Matt and I had last time...need to force the highlight
 [10:21:41 PM] victoria.revay says: yes people don't know highlight
 [10:21:48 PM] Matt E says: highlight s a dangerous tool
 [10:21:58 PM] Matt E says: higy abused
 [10:22:06 PM] victoria.revay says: so they write a story and then grab or copy the article --
 [10:22:10 PM] Michael Riggs says: yes to the Morri. It is hard to highlight two quotes in a story, particularly if they are from a different sources. But it is not hard to attribute correctly.
 [10:22:12 PM] victoria.revay says: which appears exclusive
 [10:22:30 PM] victoria.revay says: it's not hard to highlight more than two sources
 [10:22:39 PM] Michael Riggs says: How do you do it?
 [10:22:41 PM] victoria.revay says: I can show you how
 [10:22:44 PM] Michael Riggs says: ok
 [10:22:49 PM] ahmad_sherif says: Did any mention (earlier) a "template" for copyright. No everyone is familiar with declaring: source, date, author etc.
 [10:23:00 PM] Matt E says: good point
 [10:23:57 PM] Justin Silles says: great points
 [10:24:56 PM] michaelemeyers says: one quick ? - is 'needs improvment' not strong enough for this scenerio?
 [10:25:00 PM] Justin Silles says: ha
 [10:25:01 PM] Morbus Iff says: heh, heh
 [10:25:08 PM] Matt E says: I love you Morri
 [10:25:09 PM] Justin Silles says: Lion!
 [10:25:25 PM] Justin Silles says: Lion's ministry
 [10:25:28 PM] Justin Silles says: boooo
 [10:25:49 PM] michaelemeyers says: broke up for me, can you repeat the punchline?
 [10:25:57 PM] ahmad_sherif says: these specific conributions should simply not bare the label "exclusive"
 [10:25:59 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: yeah! a friend of mine, in response to blogging in general, declared "the Internet makes everyone think they're important".
 [10:26:16 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: Lion and Lamb Ministry, loan man, etc
 [10:26:24 PM] Matt E says: good for the tech m,an ;)
 [10:26:40 PM] Actual News Guy added jarrettm9 to this chat
 [10:27:10 PM] ahmad_sherif says: if brilliant, keep them, simply state "not exlcusive"
 [10:27:30 PM] Justin Silles says: great things to bring up...those are tough stories to comment on due to their topics
 [10:27:58 PM] Matt E says: yes please
 [10:28:14 PM] Matt E says: just block em if they spam
 [10:28:46 PM] victoria.revay says: but don't we encourage people to highlight their blogs so they can get traffic? so how do you regulate what we want and what we don't?
 [10:29:05 PM] ahmad_sherif says: Has NP automated verifications regarding plagiarisms? (this is technically possible, I saw it done before)
 [10:29:08 PM] Matt E says: are we a traffic generator or ...
 [10:29:24 PM] jarrett says: verifications seems like a good idea
 [10:29:26 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: there is a common denomenator between blogging and news... but not all blog entries qualify, not even all entries by the same blogger
 [10:29:56 PM] Matt E says: eg Carey - some excellent some other end of the range
 [10:30:08 PM] Michael Riggs says: yep
 [10:30:10 PM] victoria.revay says: not a traffic generator
 [10:30:26 PM] victoria.revay says: however, it's a benefit that is appealing to bloggers
 [10:31:03 PM] Justin Silles says: Matt on Current Events
 Robert on Sports
 Jordan on Tech crap
 Ahmad on use of flagging by other members
 [10:31:20 PM] michaelemeyers says: we should wrap this up in the next 20-30 min
 [10:31:26 PM] michaelemeyers says: Matt you are breaking up
 [10:31:33 PM] victoria.revay says: yes
 [10:31:38 PM] ahmad_sherif says: ...
 [10:31:42 PM] Michael Riggs says: put in chat?
 [10:31:53 PM] Matt E says: no
 [10:31:57 PM] Matt E says: ok'
 [10:32:03 PM] michaelemeyers says: sorry, couldn't make any of that out...
 [10:32:08 PM] Justin Silles says: good
 [10:32:10 PM] victoria.revay says: goof
 [10:32:11 PM] victoria.revay says: good
 [10:32:21 PM] Michael Riggs says: gone again
 [10:32:22 PM] michaelemeyers says: lost you again :(
 [10:32:29 PM] Matt E says: gone again
 [10:32:34 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I was wondering about a sports category on the front page as that is of great importance to some. I think it would help drive "local" traffic and in turn, all traffic. If we give the "little sports guys" a place to publish their news and commentaries rather than just their scores (as the local papers tend to do), perhaps it will increase overall readership. The other thing with sports is that if someone sitting on their couch in Cuba watching a Blue Jays game on TV and wants to write an article, he or she can do so and because the whole world watched it, if well written, it will once again provide legitimacy to our cause.
 [10:32:40 PM] Matt E says: connection died
 [10:32:47 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: read it
 [10:32:55 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Mark
 [10:33:04 PM] Michael Riggs says: yes
 [10:33:04 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I posted my comment above
 [10:33:16 PM] ahmad_sherif says: there should be a "human rights category", yes?
 [10:33:20 PM] Matt E says: we can pass on my current evenst
 [10:33:44 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Life is currently a category.
 [10:34:00 PM] michaelemeyers says: yeah, but today i saw a good article on the top 20 ff plugins
 [10:34:10 PM] Justin Silles says: (sorry matte, mis click)
 [10:34:32 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: and Culture
 [10:34:38 PM] michaelemeyers says: soft news vs. hard news
 [10:34:47 PM] ahmad_sherif says: human rights would go in "Life"? HR are rather specific. Life is a broad concept
 [10:34:58 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: correct I think
 [10:35:06 PM] michaelemeyers says: well the great thing about tags is that you can tag it all of these things
 [10:35:15 PM] Michael Riggs says: I think H.R. should be in politics
 [10:35:27 PM] michaelemeyers says: we don't send them six packs of beer?
 [10:35:34 PM] ahmad_sherif says: HR and Citizen Journalism really work together, I believe it should have a category of ots own
 [10:35:35 PM] Actual News Guy says: I was wondering about a sports category on the front page as that is of great importance to some. I think it would help drive "local" traffic and in turn, all traffic. If we give the "little sports guys" a place to publish their news and commentaries rather than just their scores (as the local papers tend to do), perhaps it will increase overall readership. The other thing with sports is that if someone sitting on their couch in Cuba watching a Blue Jays game on TV and wants to write an article, he or she can do so and because the whole world watched it, if well written, it will once again provide legitimacy to our cause.
 [10:35:38 PM] Morri Mostow says: Life, to me, means "lifestyle"
 [10:35:43 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Have everyone read this. - I was wondering about a sports category on the front page as that is of great importance to some. I think it would help drive "local" traffic and in turn, all traffic. If we give the "little sports guys" a place to publish their news and commentaries rather than just their scores (as the local papers tend to do), perhaps it will increase overall readership. The other thing with sports is that if someone sitting on their couch in Cuba watching a Blue Jays game on TV and wants to write an article, he or she can do so and because the whole world watched it, if well written, it will once again provide legitimacy to our cause.

 [10:35:47 PM] ahmad_sherif says: me too!
 [10:36:27 PM] Justin Silles says: (no mic) Maybe we can start another thread in the newsroom about what topics should have what content. Discuss it offline and then wrap up in the next skypecast.
 [10:36:34 PM] Michael Riggs says: Agee with Robert.
 [10:36:39 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: me, too.
 [10:37:26 PM] ahmad_sherif says: in the 5 or 10 criteria, NP should emphasize tagging
 [10:37:30 PM] Actual News Guy says: Ahmad would you like to talk?
 [10:37:46 PM] ahmad_sherif says: no I'm fine chatting. thx!
 [10:37:52 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I think the Categories should be familiar as with the newspapers
 [10:37:56 PM] ahmad_sherif says: shall make a recap?
 [10:38:08 PM] michaelemeyers says: yeah, rich tagging is important
 [10:38:29 PM] ahmad_sherif says: flagging by users: no hit and run: write explanation
 [10:38:42 PM] michaelemeyers says: i'd also like to talk about promotion at some point - its one thing to write a story, it's another to help spread the word... i get WAY more traffic to my stories when i actively promote them to groups of interest - the diffrence btwn hundreds of views or thousands
 [10:38:42 PM] ahmad_sherif says: HR category (instead of life)
 [10:38:45 PM] ahmad_sherif says: No mic!
 [10:38:48 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: You find "Sports" heading in the paper just like "Local".
 [10:39:08 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: ahmad also wrote, "When you're editing an article, you should be able to declare if you're doing a "minor edit" or a "major edit". Why? Each time you edit (even just a typo) you over ride another article that is "just in". This can lead to "popularity contest" (each one making fake edits just to be on top of "just in""
 [10:39:09 PM] ahmad_sherif says: Emphasize tagging in 5/10 criteria
 [10:39:24 PM] Justin Silles says: yes
 [10:39:33 PM] ahmad_sherif says: thx jordan, that one is important, I'm always fixing typos and feel guilty each time!
 [10:40:29 PM] victoria.revay says: what's 5/10 criteria
 [10:40:55 PM] ahmad_sherif says: the 5/10 criteria that are guidelines explaining to the users what a good article is.
 [10:41:10 PM] Actual News Guy says: Last call for comments...Jordan, do you want to rephrase Ahmad's comments (because apparently he cannot use his mike...)?
 [10:41:30 PM] Actual News Guy says: Last call folks before we wrap...
 [10:41:32 PM] ahmad_sherif says: HIs Mike Jordan?
 [10:41:45 PM] Justin Silles says: - 2 comments from me, one related to Ahmad's comment another on promotion
 [10:41:51 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: yup, though i don't know if i can do more justice to ahmad's comments!
 [10:41:54 PM] Actual News Guy says: ok.
 [10:43:05 PM] Michael Riggs says: Yes, a draft!
 [10:43:05 PM] victoria.revay says: that's brilliant
 [10:43:09 PM] ahmad_sherif says: Yes, write and save NOT immedialtly publish!!!
 [10:43:12 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: yes
 [10:43:13 PM] Actual News Guy says: really like that.
 [10:43:16 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: nice. very nice.
 [10:43:20 PM] victoria.revay says: nice
 [10:43:32 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: (beer)
 [10:43:37 PM] michaelemeyers says: :)
 [10:43:41 PM] michaelemeyers says: control + s
 [10:43:42 PM] michaelemeyers says: saves
 [10:44:03 PM] Matt E says: wordpress has the save but not publish option
 [10:44:13 PM] Justin Silles says: -one more quick comment on promotion :)
 [10:44:28 PM] Michael Riggs says: We want the draft!
 [10:44:40 PM] Matt E says: (ninja)
 [10:44:42 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: one comment after justin finishes, re: similar posts
 [10:44:54 PM] Michael Riggs says: (d)
 [10:45:16 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: I.D.?
 [10:45:35 PM] michaelemeyers says: disclosure?
 [10:45:36 PM] Actual News Guy sent file "NP_ID_20070305_Dawson.pdf" to members of this chat
 [10:45:40 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: NowPublic Credentials
 [10:45:44 PM] Michael Riggs says: Press pass?
 [10:45:49 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Yes
 [10:45:54 PM] victoria.revay says: yes
 [10:45:56 PM] michaelemeyers says: YES!
 [10:46:01 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: yup!
 [10:46:02 PM] victoria.revay says: YES!
 [10:46:09 PM] victoria.revay says: (party)
 [10:46:14 PM] ahmad_sherif says: Also, another feature: "Related articles to the article you're reading": clusters of articles aggregated by editors (not automated, if possible).
 [10:46:18 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Cards that could be printed from onlie after customization.
 [10:46:33 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: (beer)  (beer)  (beer)
 [10:46:47 PM] michaelemeyers says: designyourowncard.com
 [10:47:10 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Yeah or the airprt... no really lets do something for real
 [10:47:17 PM] Morri Mostow sent file "Wallpaper1.bmp" to members of this chat
 [10:47:17 PM] Matt E says: not carte blanch
 [10:48:07 PM] Michael Riggs says: How do we open  it?
 [10:48:16 PM] ahmad_sherif says: Also, another feature: "Related articles to the article you're reading": clusters of articles aggregated by editors (not automated, if possible). because it doesn't exist today, people are pasting entire articles in the "Comments".
 [10:48:17 PM] michaelemeyers says: it's a pdf - should just open in acrobat reader
 [10:48:27 PM] michaelemeyers says: yeah - we really should have a realted fature
 [10:48:30 PM] michaelemeyers says: feature
 [10:48:31 PM] Justin Silles says: yes
 [10:48:34 PM] Justin Silles says: thank you!
 [10:48:53 PM] Justin Silles says: jordan
 [10:49:07 PM] Morbus Iff left this chat
 [10:49:08 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: yeah, that's what i wanted to mention
 [10:49:20 PM] Matt E says: we spoke on that
 [10:49:36 PM] Justin Silles says: http://www.nowpublic.com/newsroom/duplicate_flag
 [10:50:04 PM] Actual News Guy says: Last - very last - comments?
 [10:50:19 PM] Justin Silles says: nope

 [10:50:20 PM] ahmad_sherif says: related: automated through tags and crossed with the flagging rating by editors
 [10:52:02 PM] Justin Silles says: hash out ideas inthe newsroom...and then wrap up in skype
 [10:52:40 PM] victoria.revay says: thanks
 [10:52:58 PM] ahmad_sherif says: bye, thanks a lot. ahmad.
 [10:53:04 PM] Matt E says: almost always ;)
 [10:53:12 PM] Robert F. Weitzel says: Cheers
 [10:53:13 PM] jarrett says: thanks everyone
 [10:53:16 PM] Justin Silles says: cheers!
 [10:53:18 PM] Matt E says: bye
 [10:53:18 PM] Actual News Guy says: good nite all
 [10:53:17 PM] Michael Riggs says: Goodnight
 [10:53:18 PM] michaelemeyers says: thanks
 [10:53:20 PM] michaelemeyers says: night
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 [10:53:24 PM] jordan matthew yerman says: thanks, guys. now, if you'll excuse me, all this talk of beer has given me a craving...
 [10:53:49 PM] Matt E says: I might have one with lunch
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 [10:53:56 PM] michaelemeyers says: lol, it's 11pm and i've been going since 6am - i think  it's time for a beer
 [10:54:31 PM] Matt E says: Thats a typical day for me
 [10:54:49 PM] michaelemeyers says: :) the best days are long ones
 [10:55:17 PM] Michael Riggs left this chat
 [10:55:20 PM] Matt E says: even weekends ;)
 [10:55:39 PM] michaelemeyers says: every day is a work day - you bet