The United States, Revisionism and Cuba: Is there justification for hating Dr. Fidel Castro?

sorry moonwolf this one is very close to home and to refer to my "brown people" which to me is racist, Cuba is made of many people and as a Cuban

I will defend those "brown people" who have no access to nowpublic or any freedom to speak against those who defend Fidel.

an eyewiness karen to what has he lived in Cuba? Do yo know how "mean spirited" it would be for me to write about how great slavery was. I don't think you would take it kindly. my people have been working under slave like conditions for fifty years. Do you know how much the average Cuban makes a day. Do you know the average Cuban can not visit a Cuban Hotel in his own Country. I am suprised at the lack of understanding from people who are so sensitive to their own suffering.

moonwolf I am not here defending the U.S. and what is so original in defending Fidel Ryan? there is nothing original in people defending communist tyrants we Cuban Americans come across them all the time and I always confront them no matter who they are.

I will say I am shocked that on a forum that prides itself on freedom of expression there are some who admire those who restrict their own people from those same freedoms. it says volumes.

Thanks for reading.

Angry I find from looking at your website that you are associated with the Five Percenters, for those who do not know who these people are let me inform you.

Like the Nation of Islam, the Five Percenters maintain that white
people are devils created through a separate breeding process, known as
"grafting." According to the Southern Poverty Law Center the Nation of Gods and Earths is viewed as a "violence-prone black supremacist prison gang".[32]

 source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_supremacy

Angry is this what you believe in?

thank you seedplanter I had to deal with five percenters in my early days producing rap groups. I had worked with Eric B and Rakim and though they treated me with respect their posse did not hide their racist hatred toward Latinos. And I thank nowpublic for making it easy for the average newsjunkie to express no matter who you are.

gmony very interesting research into AngryIndians web page. I did see that he displays the five percenters emblem. I have read about them before and they are known to be Racist not only against Whites but Latinos too. It is good to bring these things into the light.

Angry:

The fact that many business men in many other capitalistic societies tried to get rid of the competition and to freeze the market as it is, with his company at the top, made them change from free market defenders to monopolistic actions. But the only actions made by them could not turned into reality if there is not a government that is hungry for more and more power over the nation.

That´s why many rich families set plans even against president Thomas Jefferson (Essex Junto ) because Jefferson ruined their business in slavery trade and opium.

But the only medicine against it is a small government controled by people and that follows the constituition.

You put the blame on the US but in this very moment, many Spanish business men are exploiting Cuba citizens as their own slaves with the cumplicity of Castro, that receive all the salaries from their touristic enterprises in Cuba and transfers only a portion to the workers.

Slavery in a dictatorship away from the people´s scrutiny or from the other countries are the worst of them all.

Did you know that Castro gave away one million to the election of Brazil´s President Lula?

And he is the founder of the New Comintern in LA called Foro de Sao Paulo that was created to implement communism in all the continent?

Yesterday many friends of mine were beaten by socialists militants because they wanto to do a peaceful protest against Lula in Porto Alegre - Brazil. There were 20 brave people facing hundreds of nazi-fascist-socialist radicals that simply beat them. Police was called but they refuse to protect them (they have plenty of time to protect landless workers manifestations, or unions strikers, but common people,no).

Do you know that is said that Castro ordered Allende assassination in Chile because he was about to surrender peacefully to Pinochet?

read it here: http://againstred.blogspot.com/2005/09/salvador-allendes-sad-ending-he-was.html

Yes, many terrorists here in Brazil were trained in Cuba during the 60´s , they killed many innocent people here. They were fred by the amnesty in the 70´s and now they are in the government. Doing what they dreamed in the 60: to transform not only Brazil but LA in a communist country.

They are winning. With the support of many people that is not quite aware of what really going on or what is in stake right now.

gmony I understand how you feel my family was also seperated when Fidel fooled his own people and instead of freedom from tyrany they were imprisoned in communism. Those who never expierenced it have no clue how it is to live with no freedom and ignorant people who idolize Fidel are most likely like AngryIndian America haters. The interesting thing is how you called him out as a racist. I never heard of the five percenters sounds like Black skinheads.

I expected the focus to
turn personal instead of towards the issues I mentioned in the
piece.  The commentary was a collection of perspectives on the American
acrimony towards Dr. Fidel Castro, not my philosophical outlook.  So be it.  But I will discuss two points
if only for the sake of clarity.  Not
that I expect my antagonists to actually consider what I am about to explain or
address the issues at hand, but on general principle I need to clarify
misinterpretations and personally define where I as an anti-racist activist
stand.     

First, the supposed "outing"
of me as an affiliate to the Five Percent Nation of Gods and Earths has nothing
to do with the article in question nor does it make me a member of said
organisation since there exists none as such.  Aside from the historical
"Mecca" in New York City's Harlem district, there is neither a formal
organisation nor a catalogue of official requirements.  There is no
central leadership and there is no such thing as a Five Percent
"gang."  Gang members may be 5pct'ers, but there are, nor ever
were gangs formed around these particular teachings.  And nearly all Five
Percent Adherents are atheists.  These
negative and commonly held misunderstandings are primarily due to
disinformation fed to the public by the NYC Police Department in the wake of
the split between the National of Islam, Malcolm X and the Poor Righteous
Teachers inspired by Malcolm's political leadership.  In the endeavour to
demonise Malcolm X as white-hating, reverse racist, any and all adherents to
his political perspectives were similarly accorded such disdain.  And since the philosophy of the 5pct is
pro-African and definitively anti-White racism, the Black Supremacist
boogie-man maintains the falsehoods that feed European insecurities and effect anti-African
public policies. 

American-style Apartheid
(such as Jim Crow laws), unofficial polices of racial segregation (schools,
employment), and widespread terror by opportunistically-violent Whites and
organised White Terror groups (such as the Ku Klux Klan and the American Nazi
Party) is a historical reality most White Americans would rather erase from the
sands of time.  Virtually no bastion of
higher education in the U.S. teaches of the massacres of
American Aboriginals, nor the anti-African ethnic cleansing of Rosewood, Florida and “Black Wall Street” in Tulsa, Oklahoma. 
Most Americans are unaware of the framing of Geronimo Pratt and
Hurricane Carter or the state sponsored executions of Black Panther leaders
Fred Hampton and Bunchy Carter.  Or even
the fact that the United States Senate never ratified the 1948 United Nations
convention on the prevention of genocide because to do so would have
necessitated that the U.S. government do something about the
KKK and the White Citizens councils.  This
is an excellent example of the American political power structure defending the
existence of White racist terror in the United States. 
This is what my critics are defending by not acknowledging this
history.  And it is a scandal of not only
American claims to the moral high ground on race, but the unearned and false
argument of America being based on the rights of all men.

And as the nation pretends
that race and racial violence is something that happens “over there” and that
America’s racial issues are nothing more than the incessant shrieks of
malcontents not blissful with their marginalised place in the White man’s
pecking order, it is tellingly elitist that there was never any logical
consideration for the possibility of a liberation assessment that would in turn
take on a definable partiality against the oppressor. 

The sea in which we all
swim intellectually is fundamentally assumed to be in the Western world, “White.”  There are no exclusions to this perception
and plentiful examples can be found in literature, media and the pedagogical
systems that still explain away Aboriginal genocide and African slavery as
“necessary” to the making of America and the promise of liberty for all
men of White Anglo-Saxon heritage.  The
factoid that slavery, murder and racism were used to attain these goals is
beside the point.  The “point” is we are
told that it was good for White people, so therefore it is good for the rest of
the world… end of discussion.  Non-Whites
have to “earn” their place and no expect to simply assume what they assume for
themselves, which is of course place at the table.  This is a continual process that has worked
against African people and African men in particular since first arrival, and
if the reader cannot see this, then I dare say that the reader isn’t looking.  Or, the reader is merely one of the many
American apologist liars that say with a straight face none of this really
matters because it didn’t and doesn’t happen to me.

In light of such attitudes
and refutation of reality, I do indeed support the original goals of the
founder Father Allah and anyone who makes a sincere effort to understand that the
acknowledged Five Percent creed of self-knowledge and self-reliance is a
rational, African Diasporic sub-cultural idealistic response to institutional White
racism and will logically conclude that the essential philosophies are anything
but racist in the literal sense of the word.  It is instead an intelligent
African response to European racism in the American socio-political system,
period.  Five Percent philosophy is just what is says it is, a code for
Black male survival in the wilderness of colonial America, not a system of rigid, racialist
supremacist "belief."  It could
be called a quite subtle application of the “An eye for and eye, a tooth for a
tooth” allegory given in Matthew 5:38-39, but being civilised Africans, a
5pct’r is more likely to consider the former but to employ the latter section
of the line: “But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone
strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.”  And in line with that parable the application
of the pejorative “Devils” in reference to antagonistic White people is
fitting, for if the Devil existed he would be the angel Lucifer whom European
Christians hold as Satan, (shaitan) the Adversary, the very embodiment of evil
in the world.  If you aren’t oppressing
people, then obviously the term is not waving an accusing finger in your
direction.   

Now, onto the second topic
I take issue with.  Do I actually believe
that White folks, ethnically bigoted or not, progressive, fascist or neither are
the verbatim result of a “grafting” of various biological elements to create a
sub-human White race?  It’s a dim-witted
question to ask let alone take the time to answer but no, and I doubt you would
be able to find a serious student of Father Allah who seriously entertains this
allegorical anecdote as anything but what it is.  It is a metaphor for re-defining for the
African mind what in America is commonly deemed the ‘White’
racial model.  Put into plain words:
“There is no such thing as a ‘pure’ White man.” 
If all human life began in Africa, (unless there is a voice on this site that is
willing to refute just about the entire global scientific community) then the
colonialist concept of a pure White American race is a factual misnomer. The
problem of race is a White emotional issue, not a problem of people of colour.  It does become a problem for us whenever
Whites feel the need to assert their supposedly God-granted Exceptionalism. 

The 5pct account is a
traditional African narrative that provides a socio-political framework of the
dominating colonial organism in control of a community existing under ethnic
oppression.  It is angry and it clearly
defines the world into partisan factions. 
But the factions and boundaries 5pct theory elucidates is merely the
skeleton of traditional American society as it relates to Europocentric
conceptions of race.  White cultural
dominance and insecurities made racism a compulsory and indispensable tool for
building and maintaining an Anglicised extension of a “new” European society in
an overwhelmingly non-European “New World” where the mighty Christian conquistadores
couldn’t keep their hands or johnsons off of the female Aboriginals or
Slaves.  The Christian Church even
demanded that racial laws be enacted to protect the sanctity of the race
because God, as we all know, hates race-mixing and the resulting
“half-Devil-half-man” progeny.      

This is not the first such
“Black person’s perspective” that saw the White world in such terms and will
not be the last until the cause for it has finally exhausted itself.  White people may not feel comfortable today
viewing jazz, blues and rap/hip-hop before they were eventually dominated by
the White-owned production and distribution scheme as expressions of Black
anger towards White society but this is the pragmatic truth.  Vocalist Erika Badu openly sings of such
subjects with ample 5pct lingo flexibility and I have yet to hear of her
defined as a racist.  In fact, the vast
majority of this purportedly anti-White lyricism is purchased by White people
themselves who make up more than 87% of the worldwide hip-hop purchasing
public.  They are preceded by others like
the Beat writers and Jewish intellectuals such as Norman Mailer who recognised such
artistic idioms as a cultural mutiny rejecting White values and biases in
favour of something internally empowering to those suffering from the vestiges
of an undeniable historical racism.  For
these Americans viewing the world in the wake of the breakdown of all human
morality in Europe, American racial hypocrisy was just
as immoral as Nazism and no less inexcusable. 
And they championed the right of the oppressed to agitate against their
oppressors.  And the stigma these writers
endured for this perception are still felt today among activists such as Tim
Wise, a White anti-racism activist is called a “self hating White man” even by
avowed liberals.  So much for race neutrality
in the U.S. of A. 

The quack White theory of
Eugenics places pro-Anglo ethnic separatism in grand scientific terms and it
still accepted as valid science in many less than reasonable quarters that
preach evangelical Christianity and overt White separatism.  In fact there are a whole gaggle of
theological doctrines that literally teach White Supremacist theories such as
the “Hamitic Curse” which offers a Biblical rationalization for anti-African
racism.  Then there are the Mormons who
official viewed Africans as devilish sub-humans still un-officially maintains
this teaching as a central tenet to Mormon “tradition”.   Orthodox Jewish organisations such as Kahane
Chai unapologetically define Africans as “Mud People” and calmly describe their
bigotry as a “directive from God.”     

Five Percent adherents do
not accept the existence of the Christian god, (or any other deity for that
matter) and correctly deconstruct the aggressive use of theological zeal in
White colonialist social engineering as the implementation and maintenance of
White, ethnic authority.  The artwork in
churches across the world display an Anglicised Palestinian with bright, blue
eyes and sandy-brown hair, a scientific impossibility even by biblical
estimation.  Yet, the myth stands as an
accepted fact along with the twist on scripture that teaches believers that
Adam and his descendents are the mirror-image of Jehovah himself.  So it stands to reason that if Jesus the
Christ is White, the White man must be God-like as well.  Clearly, a civilised African sees this for
what it is, an American cultural allegory for White ethnic privilege and class
superiority and its lasting legacy. 

This practise is not
exclusive to Europeans.  It is clearly
seen in every colonialist state of affairs any where you may point to in the
world no matter the nationality of the protagonists.  Chinese cultural influence is seen in Vietnam as Arabic cultural impositions hold
fast in Aboriginal Africa.  The major dissimilarity
between these examples and the European practise of colonialism is a moot one, simply,
non-Europeans generally call such behaviour what it is.  Unless of course they are one of several historically
prominent and politically self-described “People’s revolutionaries” such as China’s Mao Zedong.  Even in the midst of the extreme left’s
sacred theology, the expanding of state influence via belligerence and genocide
can be symbolically redefined as “progress for the masses”.   

As long as the official rejection of White
supremacist beliefs are denied and the realities of socio-political
marginalisation of non-Europeans continue, liberation philosophies such as the
5pct Nation’s will exist as a counter-balance to colonialist mind-control.  The fact that there are numerous fools,
wannabes, opportunists and hate-blinded pro-African xenophobes that define
themselves as 5pct’rs is not representative of the mentality or the disposition
of the Nation.  The negation of consuming
pork and the verbatim regurgitation of “lessons” does not make one a
5pct’r.  Many young men in order to
appear larger than life in their respective communities make claim to the title
of “God,” denoting a self-realised and conscious Asiatic Black man, quite
similar to young White men who don Army surplus and claim to have served in the
U.S. military to impress and intimidate others. 
The state sponsored bad-boy image adds to the fuel and perpetuates the
image of a mob of violent, White-hating young angry Black men.  A perpetual fear White society stalwartly
embraces and is viciously reluctant to disassociate from.      

5pct’rs readily acknowledge the existence
of confusion over what the Nation does and does not do and they also recognise
that no matter how an adherent may define their personal perspectives on the
philosophy and its origins in Black survival, White society and its ditto-heads
will reject it as heretical to the standard order of things.  Like any other group with its share of
miscreants, not every person who finds some value in Father Allah’s teachings is
of a negative ilk.  There are numerous unconscionable
bastards who claim to be under the good graces of an ancient Semitic sun-god and
their too numerous to count transgressions are customarily ignored.  If morality and racism are going to be used
as a diversionary focus in this discussion which began over an essay
questioning the American animosity towards a world leader, selectively leaving
out the western uses of religion and race control to manage societies cannot be
left out of the discourse.  Nor can America’s
strange relationship with its racist past, present and foreseeable future.  To do so is not only indicative of active
White social insecurities, but it is disingenuous, disruptive and at best,
chauvinistic.  Historical revisionism is
a bad thing.  Ask England’s
David Irving.   

Something else I would like to point out
and I would like readers to heed this as I feel that it is important.  And it concerns the environment of debate on
issue of race, social justice and human rights. 

While I anticipated a certain level of
bitterness towards my article on Dr. Castro, it still astonishes me how people
can selectively disregard the subject of a written work or news report when
they cannot argue on the facts of the piece. 
Instead, such individuals will antagonistically cheery-pick more emotive
issues they feel give them more manoeuvring room and then engender debate on
those points rather than the facts at hand.

Raising the spectre of an organised and violent
race-based anti-White retaliatory movement moving amongst U.S. society in a
political discussion is no different than accusing critics of Israel of being
little more than Judeophobic, jackbooted toughs.  It is a tactic designed to quell debate,
disengage recognition of the particulars and to ultimately blur the lucid
reality of pro-White institutional racism in examinations that qualitatively
define racism as a destructive crime against humanity.  It is a rebuff of historical reality and
contemporary injustice to people who do not, cannot or chose not to be defined
by a system of racism and class privilege. 

This is the basis of the 5pct philosophy,
making the effort to examine and recognise that the current state of affairs is
no different than that of the past five hundred years of European occupation in
eh Americas.  America
and it neighbouring states north and south are states built on Europocentric
chauvinism and preserved by the maintenance of institutional ethnic
divisions.  This is not a sugar-coated
Civil Rights song of acquiescence, it is Black pride and power in the face of
White racism.  And if that bothers you
gmony and the others here who are quick to label me a “race-baiter” for
pointing out the obvious, then the problem is entirely your own, not mine.  As conscious person of colour I refuse to be
a doormat for White colonial insecurities. 
And as history has shown, such unforgivable Blackness is seen as tantamount
to a vicious hatred of White people as a whole. 
For too many of my detractors, the resentment stems from my not playing
by the “accepted” rules of engagement.  I
am supposed to be singing “We shall overcome” rather than suggesting an
ideological “Eye for an Eye” retort to institutional racism.  If I hate anything, it is White ignorance and
rejection of the existence and practise of White racism.  As long as White society plays this game of
forgetfulness, there will be a problem. 
A university course on White Studies written by non-Whites would help,
no? 

And as far as gmony’s claims of being Cuban
and his strong opposition to Dr. Castro, why isn’t he in Cuba then
working to make peaceful political change from within the country?   Why is
the Cuban expat community demanding that the United States deal with the Cuban government? 
Even the Bay of Pigs was planned and financed by the U.S.
taxpayer.  If you despise him so much, go
there and do something about it instead of trying to stir up an emotional storm
over an article you have let to categorically refute in the United States, my ancestral territories. 
If you insist on introducing your Cuban nationality as an paradigm of moral
fidelity in a discussion on Dr. Castro, then by fiat you are required to recognise
my ascendancy in matters of anti-African and anti-Aboriginal American racism
under the very same guiding principle. 
You can’t change the rules of debate simply because you have nothing tangible
to quarrel with.  

I am not a personal friend of Presidente
Castro.  I don’t know the man personally
and my commentary was sincerely asking a reasonable question, given the
one-sided history between the U.S. and Cuba, why
do so many people in America personally hate a person they know so very little about?  To say that Dr. Castro has done nothing but
practise a long-standing social decadence in favour of personal political power
over an impoverished island nation is wholly dishonest and entirely
revisionist.  I recognise and respect the
struggles of Cuba and other nations to break to the yolk of American hegemony and I
can back up my opinion with solid facts and historical substantiation.  Were mistakes made by his government, of course,
but that wasn’t the purpose of the piece. 
If I mentioned the history of Jim Crow in Cuba,
where my detractors seem to wish the debate to centre, how is that
race-baiting?   If mentioning the
existence of official racism in pre-revolutionary Cuba is race-baiting,
how would you define the openly race-based suggestions surrounding immigration,
crime and police brutality American politicians of both political spectrums use
race to drum up White ethnic support? 
White American politicians routinely play on the fears of ethnic Whites
who feel swamped by the way America
is changing while they snack on tacos.  In
fact define the separation of American soldiers and Iraqi national troops when
it comes to cafeteria and lodging in the green zone of the Iraq theatre,
is this the “freedom” the U.S.
government has in store for the Iraqis in the 21st century?  They must since they quietly approved the use
of slave labour to construct the American embassy there.  Kipling’s ode to the imperial White man is
still held in high regard, isn’t it?

And while we are at it, explain how
hurricane Katrina could happen in the United States and as of this writing, still remains littered with unanswered
questions of racial bias from anyone in authority?  How about the killing Sean Bell or the Jena
Six who stood up to the presence of White supremacy on an American campus and
are now facing charges of attempted murder for defending themselves from a
White student body and community that felt justified in hanging up three
hangman’s nooses with the school’s official colours.  And I am being defined as a racist for
pointing out that White racism exists? 
Where am I in this article or in anything else I have posted in more
than ten years of published writings discussed restricting the civilian and
human rights of European people?  I
openly and unapologetically voice my reasoned dissent from the notion that
White people are not ethnically, culturally and theologically superior.  And if my defiance shakes up the readers
illogical and xenophobic worldviews of unquestioned Europocentric moral clout,
too bad.  I have yet had any of my
critics ever successfully invalidate my analysis of either historical White
racism or its persistent practise in the modern day.  As an alternative to debating facts and
issues, there is an underhanded resort to using my resentment towards White
racism as a tool for engendering fear and intimidation towards activists
defending the right of people of colour to define their own liberation.  It’s demeaning to the intelligence both the
accuser as well as the reader.

In fact, that edict goes for everyone in
this thread blankly accusing me of racism and anti-White bigotry.  The focus of the post is the unjustified (I
feel anyway) animosity towards a national leader who has never threatened the United States, not my support for a Black sub-cultural liberation philosophy in
the U.S.  A hyperlink on my newsblog
has nothing to do with the information in the commentary I posted and the
direction of the debate here is being hijacked in order to diffuse the points I
brought up in the work.  As anyone who
visits my commentary on the Internet knows, I oppose racism in all forms and if
I point towards White colonial society as a progenitor of White supremacy in
the Americas and across the world, that is the end result of my conscious
analysis of accessible facts and personal experience.  A diversion employing spurious
counter-charges of anti-White bigotry does not erase the uglier dimensions of
American colonialist history.  And it does
not in any way excuse the unethical demand of American business interests and
zealously bigoted patriots to return to the Cuba of
old for the greater glory of the re-installation of White capitalist dominance
in the Caribbean.

The same sort of negative propaganda (or
bad-jacketing to use the FBI’s COINTTELPRO own documented terminology) was used
against non other than Dr. King even while he was alive and immediately reversed
the moment he was killed.  People wish to
remember the dumbed-down sound-bites of universal brotherhood yet wish to
forget that he was an activist for African human and civil rights in America,
not the divine right of White rulers to continue oppressing Black people and
others around the world.  The sabotaging
of critical responses to White Racism by misconstruing them as “reverse racism”
is nothing more than a knee-jerk reactionary rejoinder to challenges of their
assumed innate licence to rule.  Even for
the more progressive elements of the White population, unless an anti-racist movement
duly acknowledges the “natural” right White privilege and the primacy of the
established status quo, it is instantaneously derided as anti-White, therefore
anti-social and therefore, hazardous. 
Some go as far the suggest that dissenters from White superiority are
essentially anti-civilisation since such advocates (erroneously) assert that
all civilisation came forth from a European origin despite the massively
documented ancient and modern historical evidence to the contrary.    

The very flag of “Americanism” true believer’s
wave as a bludgeon to dismiss the hatefully racist national behaviour that
occurs stateside as well as internationally under the guise of spreading democracy
and civilisation to the rabble is correctly viewed by many non-Whites as a
symbol of White oppression.  For many of
us, what America claims to be is a fairy tale and more to the point, the ways in
which we are treated empirically prove this every day.  Even in the presidential elections of 2000
and 2004 Africans were prevented from voting in America, a country that hates
the Black man and woman to its core yet a nation that despite all of its
violent anti-Black racism was laboured for and fought and died for by the very
people that it loathes.  No other nation
can make that claim to loyalty and graceful tolerance from an oppressed
population than America, and it owes this not to its non-existent creed of fair-play, but
to the innate humanity of the African in America.

While our people were being lynched, we
prayed.  When four young Black girls were
bombed in a church, we sang.  When our
leaders were killed, we marched.  And
White America paternalistically patted us on the shoulder and said in a
reassuring tone that we were, “Coming along, nicely.”  Once some of us started applying more than
our acquiescence and mutterings of resentment under our breaths, the same
paternalistic Whites now called us “racists” and saved the back-patting for
other, more “responsible” token black leaders chosen by the White
establishment.  I for one am not an
element of that assemblage and in that regard I take pride.   

I am happy to discuss the issues raised in
my commentary, but nonsensical and diversionary charges of racism, anti-American
and anti-White bigotry coming from defenders of American Exceptionality, U.S.
imperialism and White racialist revisionism will be ignored as the ramblings of
a weak and poorly defined cadre of vociferously radical historical rejectionists
who irrationally refuse to accept the realism of White racism and seek to
preserve White ethnic privilege by flatly denying it.  Seemingly on the promise of acceptability
among that very same dreadfully biased power structure.  In their own roundabout way, they too are
seeking a place at the table of power, to one degree or another.  Only they are more than keen to step over
other, non-European peoples and nations to do so.  And like the proverbial unclothed king of fable, hate to be told they are naked.  

- The Angryindian 

Do you think those who have dealt with the 5pct in New york as I have since I was a young man,  I who had been to Dr.Yorks compound  in Brooklyn

to work on music in his recording studio in the basement? Do you know who Dr. York is? Do you think that Castro type rant you just went on has not been used on Cubans to muddy the water of your simple extreme racist demeaner. And to think your Admiration for Fidel is not just another excuse to hate America. You do not care about Cubans or any Latinos as much as any skinhead I have run into in Fl does. I met the 5pst before you even knew who or what 5pct. meant. I was in the room with them in NYC. I produced tracks with them, I know what they thought of me. I wasn't afraid of them, in my world at the time they had the power since the music I was producing had many of them in positions of power. I know who you are and your not the first or last 5pct who can put words on paper, but you can not fool me I have been in the belly of the beast.

My expierence with 5pcters was not minor and the racist tone that angry has considers you as the devil too. I do not need to listen to someone try to explain to me that a racist organization is not what it seems. that's like a KKK saying "don't believe what you read we don't hate Black people" you can be a useful idiot I will not.

non whites? you don't even know what you are talking about. You have not walked in my shoes. Your white guilt is just that. I have expierenced Black racism and it is alive and kicking and Angry is one of them. When they used to call me Chico when they knew my real name was just like calling a Black a nigger. and to this day latinos are refered to in that form by Blacks. I met and hung out with the inside crew of the 5pcters in the 80's do not think you know more about that then me. and i am not afraid to sit across a room with Angry i love him but I will still call him out to what he really is.

I'm a bit confused. AngryIndian, if you're black, why are you posting as "angryindian?" Native American and Canadian indigenous issues are ones I'm very familiar with, and it seems to be that maybe your focus is on 5% style black issues vs. native issues.