AFA Calls To Stone Killer Whale Tilikum For Drowning Trainer

i am writing this cos i think that the whale should not be killed cos its a wild animal and should not have been in a tank. it is a very horrible thing that happend and i really feel for the family of the trainer. but he belongs in the sea. and i have read research that keeping whales this size in tanks has a lot of pyscological damage on them and so i think it should be in the best interest of the whale to try and rehabilitated it back to  the wild cos it did not have the option to be captured.. 

wait wait wait this is a christian group saying to kill Tilly r u fucking serious first of all its a damn wild animal yes i said WILD.

I don't believe that a true Christian organization would want to stone Telly.  That's not the way Christians act - Christ was the example and He didn't act with voilence.  Christians don't stone people - in fact, it was the Christians being stoned (for being Christians).  And as for Telly, its us humans' fault for using those poor orcas for our entertainment.  I don't think God intended for it to be so.

In all fairness, if a dog kills a person, they are always put down. Think they do they same with elephants and big cats in zoos and circuses, don't they?

Absolutely guarantee that there isn't any land mammal that would be allowed to live after killing more than one person.

Tilly should be set free.  Then if Tilly is murderous, we can send the japanese after it.Orcas aren't dumb animals, they're thinking intelligent people.  Maybe not as high an IQ as the average human but there's humans with considerably less intellect and they are afforded rights within their capacity to exercise them. So too should the whales of the world.  Orca pods recognize lost members even after decades away when they're returned to the ocean.  Who would refuse to rehab a POW from overseas after 20 yrs in captivity? 

I think that the AFA is being a little dramatic. I think that sea world and other animal exhibits should be closed down. Free the orca back into the wild. If the AFA wants to talk about scripture how about going to Genesis and reading the first chapter, everything had a place to be in i.e. whales were placed by God into the ocean because thats where he wanted them not in large fish tanks and used for adam and eve's amusement. Get a grip AFA!

plain and simple- why keep the whale at seaworld when he is just gonna kill more people? either set him free [ which is the right thing to do] or put him down. but dont freaking keep him there. cause its not safe for the trainers.

Everybody Must Get StonedCheck out this link about this whale stoning.  If you think this is a new idea, see the link where an elephant was hung in 1916 in Tennessee (of course).  Photos includednineteen80snore.com/2010/03/04/everybody-must-get-stoned/

link again of Elephant hanging in 1916nineteen80snore.com/2010/03/04/everybody-must-get-stoned/

Of course, it's nice to see a fundie group acknowledging the evolutionary link between oxen and whales

In regards to this topic, The 21st chapter of Exodus states that if an OX kills a woman it is to be stoned to death. This is a Jewish punishment which does NOT fall under the category of Moral law. Since this... See More is not a ceremonial law it by default is classified as a civil law. Since the government was a theocracy and run by God and the "priests" for lack of a better word this is something that was strictly enforced. While an OX is clearly NOT a whale I can see how this scripture is twisted to fit the circumstance. This alone is NOT the unreasonable portion of the issue. The unreasonable portion of this issue is that Jesus abolished the ceremonial and civil laws but told all Christians we are to continue obeying the moral laws. We don't have to KILL women who prostitute anymore or wear those little hats but as Christians we are expected to do laws morally fundamental ( ie: 10 commandments along with others from Lev ) In summery, any Xtian who believes we should stone this whale should be stoned if they ever had sex before marriage or had sex ( in any form ) during their period. Once the government hacks a few heads off in the street for example I bet the AFA shuts the heck up.....lol

EYE FOR AN EYE ! Let´s DROWN the mofo !

***ERROR***I was so upset when I originally heard that there was a call to stone the whale. and my thoughts mimicked those of your initial responders.  Almost word for word I agreed with the post that said, "let them get close and go ahead and give it a shot".  I feel that I made my decision too quickly. When I did a search and found the original article, I noticed that he did not call for the animal to be stoned, he merely mentioned the scripture that dealt with the issue.  There is nothing wrong in quoting scripture.  There is something wrong in inciting violence against animals in the way that the NOWPUBLIC post suggests. "AFA CALLS TO STONE KILLER WHALE". There was no call made, no siren sounded, there was merely a mention of scripture, saying that if it had been followed this recent tragic event would not have occurred. While he mentions how things would have been in the "good ol' days', I don't think he in anyway meant to call for a stoning, and think that leap was made by NowPublic.It is important not to amplify these instances, it is irresponsible journalism to make that assumption.  I don't agree with the literal translation of the bible, and my own personal opinion is that you must treat people fairly, not assume they think something. In doing so NowPublic attempts to become some sort of anger-spewing pundit serving to make people angry and not to solve problems, or incite useful discourse.Matt

I am so disappointed in everyone that has suggested a stoning of the whale or any animal for that matter should occur. It is barbaric and disgusting. Animals often function off instinct and it's not in any way the whales fault. Whales are wild animals and if kept in a marine park, should be respected. I don't suggest for a second the trainer deserved to die and it was a terrible event. But I am certain she would not want the whale to be harmed in anyway. As a christian myself I am disgusted to be associated with a group that would even suggest the killing of an animal in anyway other than as quick and painless as possible. I can only hope people come to their senses!

yeah, i don't think you could stone a whale to death. it is a very big animal and i bet there arms aren't strong enough to throw a rock that hard. those rocks would probably also need to be the size of boulders

WE KILL COUNTLESS OF INNOCENT ANIMALS/MAMALS EACH YEAR AND ONE HUMAN DIES AND WE ARE ALL UP IN ARMS? EYE FOR AN EYE? WE ALL SHOULD WATCH OUR BACKS!

After all the sushi we eat, is it any wonder that the universe rises up and has a killer whale eat a human? == balance in all things!

They call the killer whales for a reason. Otherwise they would call them "cute, cuddly, fluffy, snuggle whales."

i want to agree with what coach brice williams said as far as how we are to obey God's moral laws and the old testament ceremonial type laws (like the animal sacrifices and the stonings)....well Christ freed us from those old laws on the cross.  so it's a matter of moral laws.  as a christian, i am *appaulled* at the suffering these animals have gone through, i am appaulled that someone would suggest stoning these creatures!!  i am not at all suprised that this terrible death of the trainer has happened.  the whale has natural, God-given instincts to be a predator.  God put the sweet animal where he wanted the animal to live (the ocean) and then humans selfishly ripped that animal from his home to force him to perform. 

This furor comes from a misuse of an ancient law, from the Book of Exodus. In those days, the ancient Hebrews lived close together , for protection from marauding tribes, in agricultural villages. They kept their farm animals in their family living quarters, goats, sheep, cows,donkeys, horses, camels, oxen etc. Their law demanding the death of an animal that killed or injured a person was sensible for that time and place. Farm animals were very valuable, even more so than today, and this law ensured that people would keep their animals under strict control. Such close living made problems that had to be dealt with; an ox goes mad after smelling the blood of a goat slaughtered two houses away. A camel kicks somebody, children tease a donkey to make it buck and hee-haw, and of course, dog bites. I certainly can understand why many people might think that Tilikum, the orca who caused the death of his trainer Dawn Brancheau, or Montefiore, the tiger who bit his trainer Roy Horn, ought to be euthanized. But these people loved their animals as much in death as in life, and so in accordance with their probable wishes, these killings will not take place. If unruly farm animals as well as adulteresses, were to be stoned to death back in ancient times, remember that Jesus intervened to save the life of such a woman. To follow his example, let us assume that He would not want the animals to be killed as well.      

    I just can't shake the feeling that this whale knows what it did and is secretly laughing about it (or doing whatever whales do in place of gloating) because it knows that our human sentimentality will keep us from inflicting righteous vengeance upon it.  Some animals, like some people, are just murderous "bad seeds" who delight in mayhem and murder.  An intelligent creature, as this whale is defended as being, wouldn't lash out in a sort of tantrum and slaughter a person who cared for it.  It would have found some other way to communicate its suffering or displeasure.  This whale deserves death, maybe by a grenade stuffed into a fish it's fed, a cyanide-tipped torpedo fired by a mini-sub, or maybe a (particularly-appropriate) ritual slaughter by Inuit hunters.

the stoning in those times were not as you think...they did not throw stones at people to kill them. they would put stones on top of them, thus crushing the rib cage and preventing blood flow from the heart, and ventilation in the lungs. the whale should not be harmed. people make the decisions to train them, and they know the risks. it was unfortunate what happened. that whale may not be the nicest whale such as keiko, whom yearned for human attention and affection, by proving so upon his release into the waters in iceland. he then swam to norway, where he enjoyed interacting with people, even letting them ride him; although the government did not like that. unfortunately he died short after his arrival in norway, from pneumonia. however, not all whales are killers, despite their name.