Allegation by Charity: US troops storm through Afghan hospital

by Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke | September 7, 2009 at 07:15 am
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According to a Swedish Charity, members of 10 Mountain Division stormed through a hospital in Warwick province, Southwest of Kabul.

Allegations are, that the troops entered the hospital without permission breaking down doors and tieing up staff and requiring patients to get out of bed.

Fange, who is the country's charity director,   said Monday that the troops' actions were a violation of the sanctity of medical facilities in combat zones.

"This is simply not acceptable," he said.

Entering medical facilities is a contravention of the Geneva Conventions.  Having said that, how does that win the Hearts and Minds.

Navy public affairs officer Lt. Cmdr. Christine Sidenstricker confirmed that the hospital was searched last week but had no other details. She said the military is looking into the incident.

"We are investigating and we take allegations like this seriously," she said. "Complaints like this are rare."

Update:

According to the 1st Lieutenant that led the search, permission was requested to enter the hospital.  He says no one was tied up.  He thinks that the Taliban are taking this opportunity to make hay.  They know this will make news and have influenced the staff to make the accusations.

There are now two videos one by FOX News giving the statement of the 1st Lieutenant involved in the operation and the allegation of the Swedish charity.  I'm sure it will take a while to get to the bottom of this.

KABUL -- A Swedish charity accused American troops Monday of storming through a hospital in central Afghanistan, breaking down doors and tying up staff in a search for militants. The U.S. military said it was investigating the allegation.

The Swedish Committee for Afghanistan accused the U.S. Army's 10th Mountain Division of entering the hospital without permission to look for insurgents in Wardak province, southwest of Kabul, according to the charity's country director, Anders Fange.

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A. Tran

I hope the investigation will provide additional information, if not, explanation.  In fairness, if the account is true, then those involved needed to be disciplined, but for now, apparently, there is another side to this incident.

A senior spokesman for Central Command (CENTCOM) Captain Jack Hanzlik said the Army did enter the hospital, but did so in cooperation with the Afghan National Army, the Afghan National Police, and the staff of the hospital.
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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

there are always two sides to every story. 

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knight

i saw it video before

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voice_of_rizan

Let’s see, a Swedish charity using American medicine in an American funded and outfitted hospital, guarded and protected from Taliban forces that would just as soon behead them for their infidelity to Allah or for just showing their female faces in public, has protested the actions of those protectors because they entered the hospital searching for violent radical Islamists. I’m not the least bit surprised.

 

Was the headline meant to be sarcastic, or do you actually support the efforts and sacrifice of the US and NATO troops in Afghanistan?

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voice_of_rizan

This report could have included the statement "Troops demanded that the hospital staff in Wardak, south of Kabul, alert the military if insurgents came for treatment."

"The medics refused."

Are we at war with the Taliban or not? Does this charity organization believe that medical care provided to "the enemy" is not a cuase for concern. This is a war. It will continue to be a war for a very long time. Or, we could give up and all pull out. Troops storming hospitals would pale in comparison to what the Taliban would do to the local Afghani people without US and NATO troups there.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Thanks for commenting.  My point was that you can.t claim to be winning hearts and minds if this happened as it is alleged.  I fully realize that the Taliban are a force to contend with.  We have had two incidents in as many days reported that fly in the face of the Hearts and Mind Policy.  One of them is the air attack on the fuel tankers with as many as 70 civilians killed.



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voice_of_rizan

ACB, you're welcome. Thank you for starting the discussion. Your point is well taken. I do disagree that you can't claim to be winning the hearts and minds. We are not perfect, we will make more mistakes, war has casualties and some will be caused by forces of good fighting forces of evil. Regretfully, some casualities will also be among the innocent. I do not mean to sound unfealing, just pragmatic. This is going to be a long struggle. We will win the hearts and minds. This too will take time and there will be setbacks.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

I understand where you're coming from.  As a former officer in an infantry unit, this is also very frustrating to me.  I recall Canada's involvement in Somalia, where two of our soldiers killed  Somali teenager and took trophy pictures.  Sometimes troops get overanxious and it takes good leadership to keep those frustration from getting out of control.

These tours are long and Afghanistan has already been a long struggle.  I'm afraid it will be going on for much longer.  Up to recently NATO was able to contain Taliban operations in the Southernmost provinces.  Their reach seems to be extending to the North now. 

I certainly hope that General McChrystal comes up with a viable strategy and that he gets the support needed.


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voice_of_rizan

ACP, Well said.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

I just heard on a news channel that this may be drummed up charges.  Apparently US troops are speaking out.  Once I can get confirmation on their side of the story I will update the article.

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albertacowpoke

Thank you for not taking the first report as the final report.  So often we hear of charges that sensationalize events to find out later--sometimes months or years later--that the reports were false.  But by the then the damage is done.  This is not meant to mitigate the importance of timely reporting, rather, to emphasize the value of what you are doing by looking further immediately to divert the spread of misinformation.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

According to the 1st Lieutenant that led the search, permission was requested to enter the hospital.  He says no one was tied up.  He thinks that the Taliban are taking this opportunity to make hay.  They know this will make news and have influenced the staff to make the accusations. 

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Barry ORegan

One wonders what their intel was in order to carry out storming a hospital.

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batvette

Is "storming" the hospital even an accurate description?

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

At this point it's an allegation only.  More to follow, I'm sure

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eastvanray

I wouldn't put it past the Taliban to fill those hospitals with their fighters and claim that they are a safe haven.  If, however, these troops invaded a legit hospital operating as such then it cannot go unpunished.

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

There will certainly be an ISAF investigation.  It was four days after the fact that the incident was reported.

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