American Witness Says U.S. and Georgia to Answer for Violence

by moonwolf | August 11, 2008 at 12:26 pm

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American Witness Says U.S. and Georgia to Answer for Violence

While the Pompous Potus throws accusations at Russia from his throne at the Olympics, an American witness to the unprovoked attack on civilians in South Ossetia by Georgian troops led by American mercenaries says the brutal massacres were genocide and that Russia had no choice but to intervene. He says the USA and Georgia must be held responsible for that genocide. Also at this time it is reported that an American mercenary and NATO instructor has been taken prisoner by the Russians and that the bodies of other American "instructors" have been found. See comment below for link. This is looking more and more like an American/NATO proxy war against Russia in the region with the western media spin doctors attempting to make Russia the fall guy.
THE VIDEO OF THE INTERVIEW WITH AMERICAN WITNESS JOE MESTAS IS ON THE LEFT.

An American man living in South Ossetia says U.S. and Georgian leaders are responsible for the violence that has killed 2,000 people in the region. Joe Mestas, who witnessed days of shelling, told RT that Washington will have to answer for the violence.

“I thought that since U.S. is supporting Georgia there would be some control over the situation in South Ossetia and that there would be a peaceful solution to the conflict. But what is happening there now it’s not just war, but war crimes. George Bush and [Georgian president] Mikhail Saakashvili should answer to the crimes that are being committed – the killing of innocent people, running over by tanks of children and women, throwing grenades into cellars where people are hiding,” Joe Mestas said.

“The war is when military fight against military. But the Georgian army is killing innocent civilians. This is genocide,” he added.

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moonwolf

at 12:37 on August 11th, 2008

Since I am unable to put active links in the story for some reason, here is the link to "An American Soldier/Citizens Captured in South Ossetia?"

moonwolf

at 12:55 on August 11th, 2008

Here is a link to the interview with American Joe Mestas in South Ossetia.

Emilio Lizardo

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at 13:51 on August 11th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

White Noise

at 16:06 on August 11th, 2008

GREAT POST INDEED !

The use of mercenaries for this child chewing monstrous operation makes me sick but I should have know better !

MORE INFO HERE...

Towards a Broader Russia-US Military Confrontation?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/towards-broader-russia-us-military-confrontation

Meanwhile...

"We are watching a poorly staged rendition of Wag the Dog , interpreted for the morbidly stupid and performed by the criminally insane." - Jules Carlysle

Gh0s7

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at 16:40 on August 11th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

BAH (not verified)

at 18:46 on August 11th, 2008

Sick! Sick!

George Bush is a good and honest man. He will be seen as one of the greatest world leaders one day. Marxist, comunist, socialist, and democrats can't stand that and it has driven many insane. They even make up complete dribble in their mad dog state as they foam at the mouth! Kind of funny sometimes! You do have to sort of feel sorry for them. They are left with Obama and Hillary.

Emilio Lizardo

at 19:40 on August 11th, 2008

Hi BAH, I've noticed that not only do you know some history, you also seem to know the future - impressive!

Many would beg to differ with you on this point however - myself included ...

In my humble opinion, the future ( if there is one, by the way ) will regard Mr. Bush for the dupe he has proven himself to be. The one that stood by and watched while the final nails were firmly set into the coffin of America, that once proud nation of liberty and ideals which in former times made her the envy of the world ...

Patriot Act, my foot !!

tiha zaman

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at 19:00 on August 11th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. Great intro, how "proxyingly" true. :)

BigT

at 19:24 on August 11th, 2008

There are a couple of problems with this post moonwolf. First off, the American citizen, Mr. Mestas, didn't witness anything. His wife and daughter were vacationing in South Ossetia at the time. Every piece of information he gives in the interview is second hand information. Plus, he doesn't live in South Ossetia either. Just watch your video and you will see that this is a mischaracterization of what actually takes place in the interview.

Furthermore, as the video shows, this man is from South Ossetia. This means that he is hardly an unbiased source and should be treated thusly. I mean, seriously, he's probably a Russian separatist who will say what needs to be said to help out Russia's side.

Secondly, you flat out state that Georgia going into South Ossetia was spearheaded (not your word, I know) by American mercenaries/NATO "instructors." Your link, from the comment leads to an interesting article from a blogger that states at the end of his post that the story of the captured American soldier is uncorroborated.

I tried going to his only source, the Russian paper Izvestia, to find out as much information as I could. Unfortunately, the site is down so I cannot find anything out. But I did go to Wikipedia and found this:

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Izvestia, describes itself as an "all-national" newspaper of Russia. The newspaper was owned by a vast holding company of Vladimir Potanin which has close ties with the government. [1] Control stake of Izvestia was purchased by state-owned Gazprom on Friday 3rd June, 2005, and included in the Gazprom Media holding.[2] According to the allegations of the Committee to Protect Journalists, Raf Shakirov, editor-in-chief of Izvestia, was forced to resign because the government officials did not like the paper's coverage of the Beslan school hostage crisis [3] [4]. Other sources informed that Potanin had asked him to leave for fear the Kremlin would be riled by the explicit photographs of the massacre published by "Izvestiya." [5] As of 2005, the circulation of Izvestia is 240,967. The current chief artist is Boris Efimov, the 107 year-old illustrator who worked as Joseph Stalin's political cartoonist.

The ultimate source making this claim that American "mercenaries" headed or were at least involved in the invasion of South Ossetia is basically an instrument of the Russian government.

One last thing before I go. Americans and other NATO troops have been in Georgia. They were there to train Georgian troops how to deal with unexploded ordinances. Now I wonder who put those bombs there in the first place...

BigT

at 19:37 on August 11th, 2008

Wait, I take it back, HE IS A SEPARATIST! Just take a look at another YouTube video (ironically, it was in the little crawl of related videos) [HERE]. In this video he talks about the day when South Ossetia is internationally recognized and longs for the day when South Ossetia can live in peace without Georgian aggression.

I think it's entirely likely he spiced up the truth.

moonwolf

at 07:08 on August 12th, 2008

You may be right Big T,

Without people on the ground in the region almost every piece of "news" we hear from either side is nothing more than propaganda and spin.

What is one obvious piece of such spin is that US "Instructors" were there just to help the Georgians learn how to deal with mines and unexploded bombs! RIIIIIIGHT!

Heritage

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at 21:00 on August 11th, 2008

moonwolf, I like this story. It's good stuff.

“I thought that since U.S. is supporting Georgia there would be some control over the situation in South Ossetia and that there would be a peaceful solution to the conflict."

Very naive.