Arizona Immigration Bill SB1070: What Does it Mean?

Well, you were on to something then you said "Liberals" meaning all liberals and lost all credibility so I stopped reading.

Meth addiction is 90% a US by product.  it is cooked right here in the good old USA.  Now Cocain is what you might want to use in that statement next time.  If your family had Meth issues you should be targeting your rage at the trailor trash around the  corner who turned his trailor purple cooking the stuff

Your aspiration is for this country to be like China? Like Mexico? Are you serious?

You can cook meth in your basement from over-the-counter pharmaceuticals found anywhere in the U.S. Illegal immigrants are far more likely to smuggle weed or Cocaine. both of which are only viable markets because of  the high demand in the U.S. If we legalized Marijuana, it would destroy millions of dollars of revenue for violent mexican gangs without having to utilize our legal system to oppress people who are only crossing our borders because American companies in Mexico won't pay Mexicans a living wage. Drug analogy= Fail

Good day, There are many valid points, however, this smells of Nazism. Our drug addictions in America, has more to do with our weak will than people bringing drugs into our country. Typically, people do not like to admit their own short comings, we enjoy pointing fingers. With that being said, there is a right and wrong way to get things done. I do not believe that America needs to adopt the practices of China (suffering from communism since 1949). The people of this country have been made discontent by the media. Do not forget, your family was once new to this country. Here is something else to think about. Germany, fell victim to Nazism when its finances were also in the air. I am not sure how educated you are about world politics or ideologies, but study up, we as Americans are in  for a long ride. BTW Do you have papers proving that you are indeed an American. I would not want you to be pulled over ;)   Good luck!

You are a donk you really think that meth is made over the border, they make it in arizona smart guy in garage and houses.  really 98 percent where did you get that statistic post it if you're so sure!  I have brown skin and my family has lived in So. Ca. for 5 generations, my mother's family tracks before the revolution, but if I go to Arizona I have to bring my passport with me screw you guys.  I like how you go after hispanics who take the worst paying jobs out there, way to feel intimidated.  They are an important part of our economy there cheap labor keeps the prices of your food, clothes, and other goods down so you have more money to send your kids to college and getter better jobs where they're not breaking there backs.  GET OVER YOURSELF this country is all immigrants unless you are native american.  I bet your family wasn't scrutinized as much when they came over.

YOur stupid. If a crackhead doesnt care who sells them their drugs why should you. Oh well its their fault anyway for being addicts.

Meth can be and is manufactured in the united states, the only difference is the cartels make larger margins due to economies of scale and lower quality. What is conservative about supporting inaccessible borders and allowing government to detain and search people with even less "reasonable" suspision? That sounds more reminiscent of the USSR or China than the US constitution. The problem with this country is that we have reached a point of laziness where we'd rather give away our freedoms to the police and state becasue the same police and state told us we would be safer. This bill is simply a way for both republican and democrat officials to make it look like they"ve done something since the last election cycle. I dont know about you but i'd rather trust my big mean dog and firearms to protect me and my family; as opposed to yet more and more regulation that will eventually run this country into perminant economic and social stagnation. Dont get ahead of yourself thinking your not liberal just because your not into rainbows and lollipops...liberals also enjoy beuorcracy and endless regulation because they are too scared to handle problems on thier own. I cant imagine a state where I will have to e verify everyone who gets in my car. Ever have a co-worker ask for a ride home? You really want to have to check a government data base before giving an answer? Think about the big picture guy!

First and foremost; a drug addiction is a disease that is self inflicted; it started with a choice to put the pipe to your lips. Second, racial profiling is not liberal or conservative its racist; a racist view on how deal with the overall immigration problem not the drug wars. This country was built on the backs of immigrants.  Last, your comment of "good people" but "they broke the law", so your saying the entire Hispanic community you live in is illegal. What was your law that you broke? are you Hispanic looking or white looking? Do you walk down the street and have to worry about being stopped and asked for your immigrant papers?

Meth Addiction? Yes, I have and it is not because its being transported across the border. It is being made right here in this country by many US born people. Not only that but drug addiction is hardly the issue with people coming over illegally. Addicts are going to get drugs if they want them, not only that, but what is this country doing to help addicts in this country. Not putting enough money towards social services that may actually try and combat this issue. Go to any rural community these days and you will find a meth problem, and it is not only being manufactured across the border, it is being manufactured in back yards of the USA. People don't leave their home country because they want to most of the time, they leave because living conditions are too hard where they are coming from, that's the issue. We should be addressing the bigger issue. 

Meth? Why would it come from Mexico? Generally the chemical components to make methamphetamine come from your local drug store and are made for pennies on the dollar in low-income trailer parks right here in the good ole-USA. I know, my former roommates never were able to get enough of the stuff. Humorously enough they all seemed to know how to make it, but lacked the will-power to do so. Or the will-power to clean the kitchen, go to work, pay rent, etc...

I read your post and find it interesting that you choose meth to make your point.  Our family had to deal also with meth addiction, namely my brother got addicted to it.  He got it from whiteguys here in Georgia, made in America by white people in their little, filthy homemade labs.  Meth flows freely here in GA and it does not come from Mexico.  Also find it very hard to believe that 98% of homicides are committed by illegal aliens, that would mean that only TWO percent of  homicides are committed by legal citizens or residents?  Not even in a perfect world would that be possible.

Nice, you are comparing the way the USA handles immigration to China of all places! LOL This has nothing to do with Liberals and Conservatives. This has to do with racism. If someone breaks the law and is caught by the police, then do what you have to do to prosecute. This is a huge step back for our society.

What a load of bollocks.  Meth is produced mainly internally in the USA, in local meth houses obtaining raw materials from US stores.  Its not trafficked over the border at all.  Get your facts straight before spewing this rubbish on others.

Hell yeah

I meant in terms of fear etc. And also as a manner of speech.

I am not sure. I understand that it is not moral or ethical for people to come here illegally. I understand that many want them to stop or leave. I also know in the agricultural and other industries which (at least down South) they participate in they contribute to anywhere from 30 to 70% of that state's GDP (depending upon the state.) They do all the jobs your typical American considers beneath them including but not limited to civil service jobs such as garbage collection etc and et all. There will be a void and distruption which especially now we cant entirely afford.

The cost of this bill furthermore is going to be high. And those very same people who desire it do not want to pay more taxes to cover the cost. Thats innane.

My issue with this is the profiling. Profiling especially racial based is already rampant down here. Anywhere near the border is increadible hostile. Example, I went to Mexico and as we were all white all they asked us if we were citizens and let us on our way. Another time one of my friends who is Honduran was with us and they asked for her passport and questioned her for about ten minutes (she was born here and has no accent besides a southern drawl, it was based on her looks). Its disgusting. Its injustice in the hghest form.

While I do understand the burden presented, why not create an effective system to get them paying taxes. And if that neccesitates citizenship so what? Its not like most anyone who is already a citizen actually performs any of their civic duties anyway.

Immigrants have been coming here legally and illegally since the land was settled. You could argue that at least half of the south was stolen and thus settled illegally--first from the natives who lived here and then from tejano farmers. They will continue to come as long as America remains a bastion of freedom and hope. There is no stopping this.

The assumption is that everyone who comes in is here for drug cartels and organized crime. Thats bullshit. There are always bad apples. We always seem to let them spoil the bunch. But the majority I know (who will admit to it) are here for the same reason my family came from Germany over a century ago: to escape the political, social, or economic hell back home and try to be better, to do better, than those who came before them.