Ballmer Says Tax Would Move Microsoft Jobs Offshore

by Roy C | June 4, 2009 at 12:35 pm
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CEO Steven Ballmer of Microsoft, who previously backed Obama as a candidate and had given a $100,000 contribution to the president's inauguration, has had a reaction inconsistent with that apparent support, saying that if the Obama tax plan goes forth, Microsoft will be moving a lot of work overseas.

Previous to Obama's announcement concerning corporate tax policy and off-shore profits, Obama's election had been "hailed".

Obama's decisive victory this week over Republican rival John McCain in the U.S. presidential elections has been broadly hailed by technology leaders as potentially beneficial to the country's technology and communications industries.

"I have a lot of faith in our system and our electoral process, and I think President-elect Obama understands that there's a deep set of economic issues, and I have confidence in his leadership," Ballmer said on the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's Lateline program, in response to a question on how he thought Obama's win would help Corporate America.


Now that President Obama's tax overhaul for multinationals ends corporations' use of overseas investments to avoid paying US corporate taxes, Ballmer's view has shifted.

Fundamentally, what Microsoft does to reduce taxes is to develop a product in the US and deduct those expenses in the US to offset our high corporate tax rates, while then shipping the product to a foreign country where a Microsoft subsidiary licenses the product, allowing Microsoft to pay lower corporate income taxes in the subsidiary's country.



Microsoft Corp. Chief Executive Officer Steven Ballmer said the world’s largest software company would move some employees offshore if Congress enacts President Barack Obama’s plans to impose higher taxes on U.S. companies’ foreign profits.

“It makes U.S. jobs more expensive,” Ballmer said in an interview. “We’re better off taking lots of people and moving them out of the U.S. as opposed to keeping them inside the U.S.”

Obama on May 4 proposed outlawing or restricting about $190 billion in tax breaks for offshore companies over the next decade. Such business groups as the National Foreign Trade Council, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable have denounced the proposed overhaul.

U.S. tax rules let companies defer paying corporate rates as high as 35 percent on most types of foreign profits as long as that money remains invested overseas. Obama says he wants to end such incentives to keep foreign profits tax-deferred so that companies would invest them in the U.S.

Microsoft reported an overall effective tax rate of 26 percent for 2008 in its last annual report. “Our effective tax rates are less than the statutory tax rate due to foreign earnings taxed at lower rates,” the report said.

Barry Bosworth, an economist in Washington at the Brookings Institution research center, said many software companies such as Microsoft have exploited tax and trade rules in the U.S. and other countries to achieve a low overall tax rate.

Ireland Subsidiary

Typically, he said, a company like Microsoft develops a product like Windows in the United States and deducts those costs against U.S. income. It then transfers the technology to a subsidiary in Ireland, where corporate tax rates are lower, without charging licensing fees. The company then assigns its foreign sales to the Irish subsidiary so it doesn’t have to claim the income in the United States.

“What Microsoft wants to do is deduct the cost at a high tax rate and report the profits at a low tax rate,” Bosworth said. “Relative to where they are now, the administration’s proposals are less favorable, so there will be some rebalancing on their part.”


The Hot Air blog has characterized Ballmer's position as qualifying him for the Captain Louis Renault Award, the French captain from "Casablanca" who was "shocked, shocked" that gambling was going on in Rick's place, while pocketing his winnings.

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Amy Judd

Interesting - a complete 180 degrees.

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Roy C

Hey, I liked the old gray highlighting better. Am I alone on this?

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Paschen

You can discuss it in the Forum Roy. Make a Forum post. 

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Babel-Fish

Oh! blackmail from the pirates of Silicon Valley. Obama just has to ban new Microsoft products in the USA, lol  They are always full of bugs as they are always released to soon. 

Damn un patriotic. "Hey now we can't use a tax shelter to cheat the government, so we...." lol

What can you expect of off pirates?



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Roy C

Thanks. Good comment. They need to make a comprehensive policy proposal, not just "it ain't enough money", the usual.

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bruce lytle

I  hope they move all there jobs over seas. this will show everyone what the real damage this president is doing to the U S A we need this idiot out of office. I hope his wife is proud now.

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digital-boy

It's sad to say, but this country allowed companies to grow too big...

and now that we see these companies crumble, we as a nation has to suffer! But President Obama is doing a fine job of cleaning up the mess of Bush Jr. and setting up America to compete in the global economy that we have now!!

Don't forget, what the current economy is like is from the decisions made 2 years ago by that president... Why do you think Bush Jr. wanted (and won) a second term?!?

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Kevin C

This is a typical comment from a company that is advocating the importation of cheap labor via L1 and H1B visas. 18M donation to senators and representatives floating a bill to open up the flood gates for cheap labor. Microsoft lawyers wrote it. Hmm..

Hey sharp elbows Rahm, here is all you need to say to end this crap. "So Steve, you want to play hardball. No problem. Like China and Europe, we will no pass legislation that all government purchases must deliver all source code and documentation available via the Freedom of Information Act. In fact, maybe we will standardize on LINUX."

Bring the jobs home and quit bitching about the tax loophole you took advantage of for all these years... Btw, dumb ass Ballmer, the falling dollar is drive the cost of offshore labor through the roof. Get back to your abusive roots and hire American college grads and work them 80 hours a week. Don't forget to hang the stock options in front of them. Opps, their worthless...

LOL



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Roy C

Maybe we should lower corporate tax rates. Maybe even eliminate them and just tax individuals. I don't know, but Ballmer thought what when he backed Obama?

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Babel-Fish

I think he lost the puppet strings on a known loser and thought he could gain some strings on the winner. Its a gamble that did not turn out right and of course he is trying to pull strings now because MS has lost its tax shelter. Of course the strings where never tied as Obama is not really that corrupt but of course Bush's crowd were.

I love US politics and its corruption it make such good debate. Oh if someone really took notice of Plato, lol 

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