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The Best Global Warming Discussion Ever
The other day I went to a global warming presentation delivered by my friend, Mason Wilson (retired Professor Emeritus from the University of Rhode Island, College of Engineering). I was so impressed by the information he presented and by his organization of the material that I invited him to post it on my blog. He starts by explaining the difference between short range weather forecasting, based on real-time data – and longer range forecasting, based primarily on extrapolating historical data into the future. Next he points out the significance of the historical record of climate data on which there should be universal agreement. Lastly he points out some of the factors that may be more important than CO2 emissions in explaining some current conditions.
A Discussion of Global Warming and Latest Developments
by Dr. Mason Wilson
Global warming is most likely the most cited scientific problem in recent times, as many thousands of people rally behind those saying Global Warming is due to mankind, It satisfies the hunger of those who would like to see the downfall of the industrial giants who are profit centered, greedy - and are claimed to have no regard for the environment. And those opposed to the global warming concept are said to be bought off by these destroyers of the universe. The recent news items linking President Obama to the formation of the biggest carbon tax and trade company in the world and Al Gore's making millions off of the global warming problems make for hot topics of discussion. That’s the political side of the thrust to embrace global warming.
This article does not want to get in the middle of this..it is not science. To put the science in perspective we will review the problems of forecasting weather, short range, medium range and long range forecasting (climatology) and the role that greenhouse gases can expect to play in the long range predictions, where they should be found in the atmosphere and the degree of influence that they may have in the atmosphere.
Short range forecasting in recent years has improved considerably, mostly because of the satellite information that is provided - cloud cover, infrared scans, Doppler radar and a host of new technologies support the local weather forecaster with an enormous amount of information. The classical weather map is assisted by this information so that 24 hour forecasts have achieved 70 to 80 percent accuracy and reasonable 10 day forecasting represents fairly good estimates of what is in the future.
However as one tries to predict things like hurricanes in the next one, two or three months, most forecaster rely mostly on historical evidence, such as the frequency of storms as illustrated in the next four figures
Most forecasting of hurricanes is based on these historical histories together with the latest positions of La Nina, El Nino, weather conditions in the Sahara Desert, and sea surface temperatures in order to modify the historical predictions. Even with all of these latter meteorological inputs, forecasting the number of hurricanes and their intensity is only a little better than a true historical forecast as shown in the following table. (CLICK TO ENLARGE)
Hurricane Forecast Accuracy
Climatology on the other hand relies on information based on past weather history which only goes back a few hundred years and paleo-climatology which yields ancient weather evidence as found in ice core samples, tree rings etc. It is generally recognized that the climate of the earth is governed by plate tectonics, volcano eruptions, sun variability and the earth’s orbit. Modern climate models all include the most famous and pioneering work of Milankovitch who successfully correlated and predicted the cyclic temperature variations of the earth using the inclination and declination of the earth together with the orbit fluctuations of the earth around the sun. This inclusion makes all climate models appear accurate, sometime leading to a false reliance on these models.
Milankovitch results are shown in the following figures
100,000 year cycle...angle of earth's axis varies
from 22-24 degrees every 41,000 years, and earth
wobbles away from the sun every 19,000 to
23,000 years driven solely by solar radiation.
Global warming experts like to modify these temperature predictions by the effects of greenhouse gases such as shown in the following figure.
These are the absorption spectra, and climatologists who want to predict global warming from these figures must integrate the radiation absorbed by these gases together with the concentration of these gases in the atmosphere and their exposure to the incident radiation. No easy task. Much information can be derived from the above graph. The distribution of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is primarily due to its density as compared to air. Gas density varies with the molecular weight and the molecular weight of air is 28.9. Hence greenhouse gases having larger molecular weight should be found in the lower atmosphere and those having a lower molecular weight should be found in the higher altitudes. The molecular weight of carbon dioxide is 44 which is much heavier than air, consequently it should be only found in the lower atmosphere. The argument that it can be carried into the upper atmosphere by thunderstorms is highly implausible since the carbon dioxide can be easily removed by the water in the raindrops. Natural gas (methane) is quite a different story. It has a molecular weight of only 16 which is almost half the density of air, Consequently it should be found mainly in the upper atmosphere. Notice that water vapor is one of strongest of all of the greenhouse gases and the most abundant in the atmosphere. It has a molecular weight of on 18 as compared to air of 28.9 and should be found in the upper atmosphere, unless it condenses or freezes. When a gas absorbs incoming radiation the energy is transformed into kinetic energy of the molecule such as the vibrational oscillation of the double bond between the carbon and oxygen atoms as in carbon dioxide and into translation into kinetic energy. Some of the energy is also reradiated. Some of the absorbed energy is transferred to surrounding molecules through a collision process. The kinetic energy of the molecule represents the temperature of the gas.
The famous IPCC Conference that had concluded that global warming was caused by anthropogenic carbon dioxide relied very heavily on the Antarctic ice core data and global mean temperature trend as shown in the following two figures:
MEAN GLOBAL TEMPERATURE
The first figure clearly shows that carbon dioxide leads the temperature profile, hence the conclusion that carbon dioxide causes global warming. The temperature increases shown in the second figure illustrates that the average global temperature increased during that time that carbon dioxide increased. The problem with this figure is in determining what portion of the increase is due to carbon dioxide greenhouse effect and what portion of the temperature increase is due to solar variability. If climate modelers assign to the carbon dioxide portion of this increase that is due to solar variability, their models will overcompensate the solar activity and will predict much higher temperatures. IPCC uses a radiation forcing function that requires many assumptions concerning the amount of radiation absorbed and re-radiated by carbon dioxide . Using this method can easily result in overestimates of the temperature increases caused by carbon dioxide. Recent observations have born this out as shown in the following figure.
Recent data by NOAA shows that the hot spots in the Arctic fall surprisingly close and along the intersection of two tectonic plates that form the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. It is well known that many vents occur along this ridge. These vents heat up the surrounding water and provide many minerals that support local marine fauna. The vents surface at Iceland and provides this country all of its power and heating needs. This ridge exits Iceland to the northwest and then to the northeast along the Greenland coast where most of the glacial melting is occurring. What a coincidence!
This striking comparison does not prove that plate tectonics is the cause of Arctic warming but does suggest an explanation of why this region is so much warmer than the surrounding area. It can also explain why the Arctic is losing ice cover while the Antartic appears to be gaining, as seen in the following two figures
Inspection of the ice and snow graph of the Antartic shows that in recent years there has been a record buildup of ice and snow in this region. This causes a greater pressure at the heads of the glaciers forcing them to calve more rapidly. Recent reports suggesting that the higher calving of these glaciers is due to global warming is very misleading.
Recent ice core studies also shows some conflicting data that leads one to question some of the assumptions made in the IPCC report. The following figure of a 2000 ice core shows that some of the time carbon dioxide leads the increase of temperature and some of the time the temperature precedes the increase of carbon dioxide. Recent cores in 2003 and 2005 appear to support the above figure.
Note: The blue line (CO2) sometimes leads the temperature line (red line) and sometimes follows it. This is in conflict with a conclusion that CO2 forces global warming.
The following figure also is not in line with the prediction of the global warming forecasts.
Recent findings indicate that solar variability more closely follows the climactic temperature than the increase of carbon dioxide.
One of the initial studies showing an increase of temperature with an increase in carbon dioxide is revisited and shown to correlate more with solar variability than any increase in carbon dioxide as shown below.
Last but not least if one still believes in global warming is due to anthropogenic carbon dioxide and thinks that we can do something about. The following figure show that even with a Herculean effort we are going to have an abysmally small effect.
Editorial Note:
I decided to add one of the slide exhibits that Professor Wilson presented at his talk, but did not include in this post – a slide that details the fact that the historical record clearly shows our planet going through cycles of cooling and warming. We are now in a cooling period of a warming cycle, and extrapolations would seem to show a continuation of this cooling period.
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Most RecentMost Recommended Comments (9)
at 09:26 on March 31st, 2009
Thank you so much for recording Mr. Mason Wilson's insights to global warming. I feel a bit sheepish, since my husband has been trying to explain the same thing to me for years now.
However, the images that you've included have finally convinced me of the truth of the matter.
Thank you for recording his amazing speech and the graphs.
~ Swan
at 21:14 on March 31st, 2009
The "climate is cooling, not warming" chart uses a 6th degree polynomial for its regression line. It also cuts the data at May 2008, rather than using all of the currently available data.
http://i41.tinypic.com/i220ir.gif
primary data source - :
http://www.remss.com/msu/msu_data_description.html
http://www.remss.com/data/msu/monthly_time_series/RSS_Monthly_MSU_AMSU_Channel_TLT_Anomalies_Land_and_Ocean_v03_2.txt
Put the end date at Mar. 2000, and global warming ended there. In spite of which, 2001-2007 are 7 of the 8 hottest years on that same record & 2008 is hotter than 2000.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2m4d5cl.gif
Put the end date at Mar. 2004 (i.e. rough midpoint), and global warming is going strong.
http://i41.tinypic.com/9gvlat.gif
The cooling of 2008 is expected as it is caused by the Southern Oscillation, i.e. La Nina & El Nino. 1997-8 was the strongest El Nino of record. 2008 is the hottest La Nina-influenced year with no El Nino ever recorded. This is why pointing solely to the temperature difference between 1998 and 2008 is not relevant to a discussion of the long-term trend. http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7z.html http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ensoyears.shtml
Duplicitous statistics do not overturn 100+ years of repeatedly validated scientific research.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/Giants/Arrhenius/ On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air upon the Temperature of the Ground (1896) http://books.google.com/books?id=07gOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&source=web&ots=nOxLfVW2I2&sig=5C0FGGNxYtlMEva9ryLcz5JIT-s The Infrared Absorption Spectrum of Carbon Dioxide (1932) http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1932PhRv...41..291M Effect of Carbon Dioxide Variations on Climate (1956) http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1956AmJPh..24..376P On the Influence of Changes in the CO2 Concentration in Air on the Radiation Balance of the Earth's Surface and on the Climate (1963) http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1963JGR....68.3877M The Effects of Doubling the CO2 Concentration on the climate of a General Circulation Model. (1975) http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1975JAtS...32....3M
at 03:31 on April 1st, 2009
The above comment by the unverified commenter above is known in the internet world as a "baiting" comment - an attempt to undermine a wide-ranging discussion by picking on one point and trying to destroy it with a mass of misinformation.
at 18:31 on April 1st, 2009
The "it's cooling! not warming" bit is what struck my eye as I scanned through yet another
Global Warming Is A Hoax! blog post. That bit is the most blatantly gullible or deceitful that I saw.
Pointing to the primary source of the chart in question is misinformation? Peer-reviewed scientific journal papers are misinformation?
Can you respond to what I posted with anything but indignant bluster?
at 21:54 on April 1st, 2009
Rather than eyeballing small unsourced squiggles, how about looking at the primary sources themselves?
"The distribution of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is primarily due to its density as compared to air. "
Wrong. The atmospheric gases are well-mixed. Also, molecular weight and density are not the same thing.
The concept of a molecular weight of air is a simplification. 28.9 is derived from 21% O2 (32) & 78% N2 (28).
"IPCC ... relied very heavily on the Antarctic ice core data and global mean temperature trend"
Wrong. It relied heavily on the scientific knowledge accumulated through research over several decades. It is hilarious that you accuse me of picking on one point & trying to destroy it with misinformation when that is exactly what this article and all other "OMG Hoax!" opinion columns are about.
"hence the conclusion that carbon dioxide causes global warming."
Wrong. The historical CO2 concentration temperature lag was predicted years before it was discovered.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v347/n6289/abs/347139a0.html
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abstracts/1990/Lorius_etal.html
CO2's heat retentive properties were researched & published as far back as the end of the 19th century, long before the ice cores were retrieved & analyzed. The conclusion was based on known physical phenomena, e.g. CO2's spectral absorption & total solar irradiance, not two distinct sets of data correlating akin to ice cream sales & shark attacks.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm
"solar variability more closely follows the climactic temperature than the increase of carbon dioxide."
Historically - yes. Currently - no.
The correlation between sun and climate ended in the 1970s when the modern global warming trend began. The sun has shown a slight cooling trend over the last 3 decades. Not only is the sun not contributing to global warming, it has had a slight, long term cooling effect.
http://www.mps.mpg.de/en/projekte/sun-climate/
Direct satellite measurements find no rising trend since 1978.
http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant
During these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar UV irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source. http://www.mps.mpg.de/dokumente/publikationen/solanki/c153.pdf
11,400 years of sunspot numbers reconstructed using radiocarbon concentrations, finds "solar variability is unlikely to have been the dominant cause of the strong warming during the past three decades".
http://cc.oulu.fi/~usoskin/personal/nature02995.pdf
Here we show that over the past 20 years, all the trends in the Sun that could have had an influence on the Earth’s climate have been in the opposite direction to that required to explain the observed rise in global mean temperatures.
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Our results show that the observed rapid rise in global mean temperatures seen after 1985 cannot be ascribed to solar variability, whichever of the mechanisms is invoked and no matter how much the solar variation is amplified.
http://publishing.royalsociety.org/media/proceedings_a/rspa20071880.pdf
at 05:02 on April 2nd, 2009
Contrary to what you have stated, the IPCC, which is the major UN commission championing the concept of man-made global warming, has admitted that there has been a cooling period since 1998 (and this was BEFORE NASA corrected its measurment data).
"The head of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) has actually acknowledged it. He talks about the apparent plateau in temperatures so far this century. So he recognises that in this century, over the past eight years, temperatures have plateaued ... This is not what you'd expect, as I said, because if carbon dioxide is driving temperature then you'd expect that, given carbon dioxide levels have been continuing to increase, temperatures should be going up ... So (it's) very unexpected, not something that's being discussed. It should be being discussed, though, because it's very significant." "
at 14:51 on April 2nd, 2009
"[The head of the IPCC] has admitted that there has been a cooling period since 1998"
Rajendra Pachauri said no such thing. He stated that "he would look into the apparent temperature plateau so far this century." It is only "apparent" when the strongest el nino of the 20th century is picked as a starting point. Gish Galloping him into giving that soundbite does not affect the scientific knowledge.
Cherry-picking a starting point to suit a preconceived notion does not refute the actual trend. To claim that the global temperature hasn't risen in ten years is, as you put it, a "baiting" comment.
Repeated from above: The cooling of 2008 is expected as it is caused by the Southern Oscillation, i.e. La Nina & El Nino. 1997-8 was the strongest El Nino of record. 2008 is the hottest La Nina-influenced year with no El Nino ever recorded. This is why pointing solely to the temperature difference between 1998 and 2008 is not relevant to a discussion of the long-term trend.
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7z.html
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ensoyears.shtml
Using the 30 year mean, the hottest 28 years of the record are the past 28 in exact sequential order. In terms of the single years, the hottest 23 have been in the past 28 & the hottest 12 have been the past 12. A period of 30 years was chosen because is the definiton of "climate" and is the span of the reference period that HadCRU (1961-1990) is based on. The HadCRUT3v temperature record covers 1850 - current.
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/climon/data/themi/g17.htm
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/outreach/glossary.shtml#C
"So (it's) very unexpected"
Only when you remain pridefully ignorant of the science to coddle your beliefs & desires. Anthropogenic forcing doesn't cancel out natural variability. To claim so is to set up a strawman for thrashing.
Science: Improved Surface Temperature Prediction for the Coming Decade from a Global Climate Model (full article text)
Our system predicts that internal variability will partially offset the anthropogenic global warming signal for the next few years. However, climate will continue to warm, with at least half of the years after 2009 predicted to exceed the warmest year currently on record.
"It should be being discussed, though, because it's very significant."
Discussion in a scientific context means presenting new research or new interpretations of old research that better fits the recorded observations. Endlessly presenting the same partial truths, outright myths and indignant bluster does not count.as debate.
Can you respond to any of the points I have brought up, or are you only a master at baiting?
at 07:09 on April 6th, 2009
I have had computer problems and have not been able to go online for a few days. I think I will just leave it to the readers, who have access to many sources of information, as to who is telling the truth about the cooling period that has taken place since approximately 1998 - the commenter named jeremiah, or Dr. Wilson.
at 20:10 on April 8th, 2009
Don't take the word of an anonymous commenter. Follow the links to the primary sources. That is the reason they are there. Are you incapable of responding to the scientific sources that I present?
Ad verecundiam is as much a logical fallacy as ad hominem.