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Biden Was Right About Roosevelt, TV and the Crash--Update
The blogs are still aghast at Democratic vice president nominee Joe Biden's recent "gaffe."
Yet all he did was inform Katie Couric that, "When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the televison and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"
Critics are quick to point out that Roosevelt was not president during the 1929 Wall Street debacle. But Biden did not say Roosevelt was president. And nobody mentions that he was governor of New York and certainly in a position to give such a talk. Nor do any of these columnists or bloggers have the slightest idea that television did exist at the time.
As VisitSchenectady.com puts it, "Few knew in 1927 that television signals were being received at a [Schenectady, NY] home near Ellis Hospital belonging to Dr. Ernst W. Alexanderson. By May 1928 GE began regular TV broadcasting and on September 11,1928 television's first drama,The Queen's Messenger, was broadcast from Schenectady's WGY." While few of us alive today bother to delve any deeper into the past than we were required to in high school--and thus do not know for sure whether Roosevelt ever participated in such a broadcast for the budding viewers of WGY's narrow reach--unsung history buff Joe Biden may well have carefully dusted off a collection of newspaper clippings from that era and uncovered the long lost truth.
Note to naysayers:
Ironically, the first television appearance by a prominent government figure was a short statement by then Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover on April 9, 1927, when he told anybody who had a TV set, "“Today we have, in a sense, the transmission of sight for the first time in the world’s history. Human genius has now destroyed the impediment of distance in a new respect, and in a manner hitherto unknown.” This quote is from the Federal Communications Commission's website, complete with front page stories about the event from the New York Times and the Boston Post.
I am simply proposing that Biden may be more knowledgeable and more prudent than he has been given credit for, much as Sarah Palin's followers credit her with wisdom beyond her assertion that she has foreign policy experience because Russian prime minister Putin has flown over her state. Despite his reputation for gaffes, Biden may have discovered a small but significant moment in the life of Democratic icon Roosevelt and shared that moment with us.
Other findings about 1920s television are in my comment below.




Most RecentMost Recommended Comments (20)
at 08:48 on September 29th, 2008
Talk about a stretch! COMMERCIAL TV for a mass audience did not commence until after World War II. It took the invention of the "image dissector tube" by Philo T. Farnsworth in the 1930s to make possible electronic television. He did not demonstrate a practical system for electronic TV until 1934, at the Franklin Institute in Philadephia, not in New York State.
Roosevelt still was not president in 1929.
And his "fireside chats" were famous for being delivered via radio, not television.
What is your point here? If you are attempting to validate Biden's knowledge of history, you have fallen short of the goal.
at 10:56 on September 30th, 2008
I have to agree, there is no real defense for Biden's claim.
at 19:09 on October 2nd, 2008
This is correct.
TV was being regularly broadcast in new York in 1928, and as the Governer of New York it is certain that Roosevelt would have spoken not only on radio but on the new TV channel at the time, on the stock market crash that was going on in the New York stock exchange.
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at 21:04 on October 2nd, 2008
Everything I have read says there was not wide spread television broadcast at this time.
Even if it was the case, the number of people viewing such a broadcast would be less than a local town hall meeting, and thus have no real impact on the nation.
at 15:45 on September 30th, 2008
Biden may have just slipped too and said TV instead of radio, because TV is today's preferred medium. He may not have wanted to go into the explanation that back in the day, it was all radio broadcasts.
Either way, he's right, Roosevelt did do that, at least on radio if not TV.
Biden is smarter than most people think
at 10:32 on October 1st, 2008
Maybe Roosevelt did say something soothing, I have not personally read proof of that speech yet.
My only problem with this is that if Palin had said exactly the same thing, every liberal on this web site would have condemned her lack of knowledge and completely torn her down over the issue.
No quarter would have been given to Palin if she said this, But on the flip side those supporting the Democratic party feel it should be for their man.
at 09:36 on October 1st, 2008
Um master_jim, Roosevelt did not become president until 1932, but don't worry Biden is no less competent than you.
at 15:51 on October 7th, 2008
he clearly said it FDR was governor of NYS, where wall street is located (you know the center of the worlds economy), so then FDR must have had some thing to say. Biden was wrong about the TV, part but still Sarah Palin has said things that aredubmer than that did you mis the Gibson and Couric interviews (she cant even answer a question properly).
at 13:15 on October 11th, 2008
Could just leave it there. The real brains belong to Hillary Clinton. Then McCain and Obama about the same. Then Biden and Palin about the same.
at 10:42 on October 1st, 2008
Maybe we should study not so distant history and maybe we would appreciate what FDR did for this country. Radio, TV whatever, he conneccted with the American people like no president before or since has done and saved this country from financial ruin and worse.
A little less squabbling and a little more studying of history would be in order. As for Biden, I would think we all would agree that when that 3am phone call comes we would rather have Obama and Biden answering than McCain and Palin. That is if all their gaffes are considered.
at 19:08 on October 2nd, 2008
This is correct.
TV was being regularly broadcast in new York in 1928, and as the Governer of New York it is certain that Roosevelt would have spoken not only on radio but on the new TV channel at the time, on the stock market crash that was going on in the New York stock exchange.
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at 21:07 on October 2nd, 2008
In 1928 television was in it's embryonic stages :
Source: en.wikipedia.org
at 22:35 on October 7th, 2008
Farnsworth was not the only person broadcasting television in the late 1920s. The existence of television in some homes in Schenectady, New York by 1929 is proven by the large numbers of sources, including many on the Internet, that document it.
For instance, the 1928 Timeline at http://din-timelines.com/1928_timeline.shtml states that, on May 11, "General Electric begins first regularly scheduled television broadcasts, three days a weeks for two hours each, at station WGY in Schenectady, N.Y;" while, on July 3, "Television sets, manufactured by the Daven Corp. in the U.S., go on sale for the first time."
http://publicliterature.org/en/wikipedia/1/19/1928_in_television.html has another list, which corroborates that on May 11, 1928, "The first regular schedule of TV programming is begun in Schenectady, New York, United States by the General Electric's station WGY. A half hour program is broadcast on Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday afternoons."
That site names several 1928 accomplishments by Scottish inventor John Logie Baird (who wikipedia calls the "inventor of the world's first working television system" in an article obviously not read by the Wikipedia author who said the same of Farnsworth):
February 9 - John Logie Baird transmits television pictures across the Atlantic. The pictures are transmitted from Motograph House, London by telephone cable to Bert Clapp's station GK2Z at 40 Warwick Road, Coulsdon, Surrey, and then by radio to Hartsdale, New York, USA.
In fact, they mention that in 1928, "W2XBS, RCA's first television [station], is established in New York City."
So I am doubly right. Governor Roosevelt could have broadcast his 1929 (possibly fireside) chat not only in Schenectady but in New York City as well. He could even have done it in color.
at 12:14 on October 11th, 2008
Hoover had already addressed the nation on TV in 1927. Roosevelt was the Governor of New York...then as president he shut down the banks for thrree days in 1932.
at 20:49 on October 18th, 2008
Stop trying to parse words. FDR did not make that speech, was not President, and was not on TV...
Whether you like it or not, Joe Biden has a long history of gaffs/lies. I say lies because of the plagiarism he was caught at in 1988 while being the front runner in the democratic primary. That plagiarism caused his downfall.
Like Joe says "this whole thing can be summed up with 3 words, J O B S "
at 20:51 on October 18th, 2008
Excuse Me, I gaffed.
Like Joe says "this whole thing can be summed up with 3 letters, J O B S "
at 10:03 on November 11th, 2008
Your defense of Biden's gaffe may be the biggest stretch ever. Did Roosevelt, as Governor of New York, give a TV address about the crash? Is that what Biden meant? Do you really believe that?
Thanks to Bill Clinton for expanding lawyerly weasleness to a whole new generation.
at 17:05 on November 15th, 2008
That depends on what the meaning of the word "address" addresses.
at 06:57 on November 25th, 2008
Governor Roosevelt acted in response to the crash at least as early as the fall of 1929. At the very least, he did so by pushing along legislation on banking.
My family owns a letter of his dated April 1930 thanking the president of the East River Savings Bank (now, ironically, Citibank) for serving on a committee that amended NY's banking laws. The committee met as early as the fall of 1929.
In the letter, FDR refers to the public and political reception of the new legislation. Although the letter does not mention a direct address, FDR is likely to have addressed the public on the subject of the crash and of his response to it. Whether he used TV, I do not know. But is that all we have to go on to make Biden look like a fool?
I recognize Sondra's point that we should not be hasty on the matter of whether Biden's comment was or was not accurate. I also agree with her that the public reaction to Biden's comment says more about the poverty of the public's historical knowledge than it does about the public's omniscience and astuteness. After all, we reacted in the belief that he was guilty of gross anachronism, and in fact, he was not. Did Biden slip? Perhaps. And perhaps finding TV footage of then Governor Roosevelt would surprise even him. BUT: Was Roosevelt quick to respond to the crash that occurred while he was a political leader? Yes. Was Bush? No.
The details of Sondra's proposal are interesting and do not merit rebuke, but intelligent debate. Furthermore, the spirit of Biden's Roosevelt/Bush contrast is sound.
at 07:32 on November 25th, 2008
Oh, no! I should not have left that first "at least" in my previous post -- of course, FDR could not react to the crash earlier than the Fall of 1929. I should also have written "on the subjects of the crash and of his response to it", rather than "on the subject of the crash and of his response to it". Does that missing "s" invalidate my entire post? lol. In "2" words (as we hear so frequently), "I'm sorry"! Be kind.