Building a free America took time: 1776-1789

by YankeeJim | February 12, 2011 at 05:44 am
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Calibrating expectations

The last shots fired in the American Revolutionary War were in 1782, some say August 27: Battle at Combahee River marks the last fighting between British and American forces. Others might argue that it was November 10, 1782: The final battle of the Revolutionary War occurs as Americans retaliate against Loyalist and Indian forces by attacking a Shawnee Indian village in the Ohio territory.

The point is the fight lasted a long time and the process between declaring independence in 1776 and ratifying the Constitution in 1789 spanned 13 years.

So, what can be expected in Egypt? How long will it take for Egyptians that are more modern than Americans in 1776 to stand up a presumably Democratic republic, transitioning from military rule to something else?

Just writing a meaningful Constitution will take some time.

“Hopeful Egyptians Unsure of Next Step

Published February 12, 2011

Associated Press

 

CAIRO -- Egyptian protesters jubilant over their success in ousting President Hosni Mubarak vowed Saturday to stay camped in a central Cairo square until they are confident the military will meet their demands for democracy.

 

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces banned ex-regime officials from traveling abroad and relaxed a nighttime curfew, according to officials and state TV, but it had yet to release a much anticipated statement on its next steps.

 

Mubarak surrendered power to the military Friday after an 18-day uprising by millions of protesters demanding his ouster and the introduction of sweeping democratic reforms, leading to euphoric celebrations throughout the North African nation of 80 million people.

 

Cleanup efforts began Saturday on Tahrir, or Liberation, Square, although it was still packed with thousands of people.

 

Burnt-out vehicles were towed away while people, including young activists wearing surgical masks, swept the streets and hauled away mounds of trash. Soldiers removed barricades to open at least a road leading to the square.

 

Many wore placards saying "Sorry for the inconvenience, but we're building Egypt."



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Guinevere

Americans in 1776 were more modern than today's Egyptian fellaheen.  You clearly have never been to Cairo, or you wouldn't forecast a decades long evolution of democracy for Egypt. Egypt is not a country but a city -- Cairo. And Cairo looks like two nuclear bombs went off in 1946 and the debris was never cleaned up. Don't take a tour of the pyramids; instead, visit the "garbage quarter" -- the area assigned to Christians to live in; it consists, literally, of five-storey high mounds of garbage turned into "living quarters" for Christians. One percent of the 20 million population in Cairo is educated; they own everything and like Mubarak, they are bribed by the US Government to ride herd on the peasants.  (Same as what is happening to US citizens ever since the US Oil-Military-Banking Oligarchs took over.)   

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YankeeJim

First, I recommended your comment because it its thought provoking. Second, because you are Guinevere (not verified), we have no idea about who you are or what you may know. So, that makes context more difficult.


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YankeeJim

"Khalil was thrilled by the news, but said her mother and aunts still worry about the weeks ahead and how they will affect Copts, Egypt's largest religious minority. "There is always a risk," she said. "But it gives me hope that the voice of the people is louder than the voice of tyranny. It gives me hope for Christians."

The Coptic Church dates to the time of the Apostles, according to church tradition.

Copts, who make up about 10% to 12% of Egypt's population of more than 80 million, have faced discrimination and rising attacks there in recent years, including a suicide bombing in the northern city of Alexandria last month that killed 24 worshipers and injured scores of others outside a church.

But members of Los Angeles' Coptic community expressed cautious optimism Friday that the popular uprising and military takeover that swept Mubarak from power may bring positive change for Egypt's religious minorities, including Copts.

They pointed to encouraging signs, including the scene this week of Egyptian Muslims and Christians praying alongside one another in Cairo's Tahrir Square.

"What has happened in Egypt has united not only Copts and Muslims but everyone," said Father Raphael Hanna, another priest at St. Mark. "We are united against unfair rule and suffering. Suffering doesn't differentiate between religions.""

I know nothing about Egypt today.

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